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StoneJack

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I've only tried the ones that came with the prebuilt Opencore EFI setup from the guy that made that thread. They work; but I'm just lazy to make a proper USB map because my system has basically been good enough. Oh, I forgot to mention; shutting down my system DOESNT work; it just quits apps, screen goes blank, but the LEDs inside the case, the GPU, etc. keep running. I have to press and hold the power button to do a full shut down. Again, this goes back to the USB mapping issue, but I rarely restart, sleep or shut down my computer. It's a little annoying, but I'm not too bothered by it (but also I haven't prioritized to fix this, I just need another couple hours to rejig things).
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iphone3gnj

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I have the same build with an i9 12900K. It's been stable for over a year. There were similar issues in the past as you with shutdown and sleep. Removing anything connected to a USB hub fixed it like 90%. I went to Bios F8 and now F21 and haven't had issues shutting down. Sleep works too but I don't use it.
Depending on the USB port map I use; sleep DOES work. It just needs some proper setup. It's not too difficult. But the motherboard has the potential to basically be 100% compatible.
 

blazerunner

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I have the same build with an i9 12900K. It's been stable for over a year. There were similar issues in the past as you with shutdown and sleep. Removing anything connected to a USB hub fixed it like 90%. I went to Bios F8 and now F21 and haven't had issues shutting down. Sleep works too but I don't use it.
Which USB kext are you using? Your own or one of the prebuilts?
 

blazerunner

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I've been looking at the same guide - seems like the build to go for. The bang for buck is pretty incredible, and Intel will likely be supported for at least the next couple of macOS releases.

Have you tried multiple USB port maps then? Why use a mapping where sleep doesn't work? To give you more USB ports?

Well, you convinced me... I spent a couple days tweaking the build; updated firmware, rebuilt the EFI folder via Opencore, updated OS X and swapped back in my Intel Wifi/Bluetooth card...... and... it all works 100%. Sleep, shut down and restart now all work.

I've been looking at getting a new keyboard... this was THE final push for me; I wanted a wireless bluetooth keyboard (got a Satechi Slim X1). Paired the keyboard in no time. Even works when the comp is in sleep mode and I can use it wake up the computer. It ALSO works once booted; so I can type in my password when trying to log in. This will also serve me well with a new controller I got; 8bitdo Pro 2 (will be using it for gaming in Mac and Windows, mostly racing games).

The system runs really well, even better than when I first got it.
 
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Ok people, I have an acer aspire 7720 with a core 2 duo, 4gb of ram, 128gb ssd etc. Can I hackintosh this to try MacOS again? Also have an aspire S3 with an core i5 and uhd graphics. Can I do it with that pc?

I just want something to try a current/semi current MacOS build to try the newer os.
 

pshufd

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Ok people, I have an acer aspire 7720 with a core 2 duo, 4gb of ram, 128gb ssd etc. Can I hackintosh this to try MacOS again? Also have an aspire S3 with an core i5 and uhd graphics. Can I do it with that pc?

I just want something to try a current/semi current MacOS build to try the newer os.

I've never tried it with a Core 2 Duo - the earliest that I got it to work using the Tonyx86Mac setup was a Nehalem system. The Core i5 might make for a better system to try it with. There are a bunch of different ways to try it but a lot of the work is figuring out hardware support and you have to go through that one-by-one with OpenCore. You can often get something working with Tonyx86Mac but getting the details to work can be a real pain.
 

comeback

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So far since early 2014 I've been hackintoshing more than 30 laptops, PCs, which belong to me and to cústomers. Nơw I am still using my the very first latop since day 1, Asus X451CA, celeron 1007u with El Capitan. The reason I keep this, is to take it wirh me on site, in case I need to create full offline installer opencore USB from macOS. Also this laptop just come back to me after years given to my daughter :D I give her a newer one, Yoga 500, which also run Monterey, so she return this back to me. Although Qe/CI not work on Celeron, it still help me make money LOL. My main rig now, is a Dell Optiplex 5070 SFF, i7 9700, Brcm94352z, Ventura. I need its workhorses to do networking lab, xcode, vs code for students. I help me earn money too LOL.
 

comeback

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Ok people, I have an acer aspire 7720 with a core 2 duo, 4gb of ram, 128gb ssd etc. Can I hackintosh this to try MacOS again? Also have an aspire S3 with an core i5 and uhd graphics. Can I do it with that pc?

I just want something to try a current/semi current MacOS build to try the newer os.
I have tried i7-720QM on my ex-wife Vaio 16inch, only GT310 Gpu No Qe/Ci too, but almost every thing work.
 

nathansz

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Ok people, I have an acer aspire 7720 with a core 2 duo, 4gb of ram, 128gb ssd etc. Can I hackintosh this to try MacOS again? Also have an aspire S3 with an core i5 and uhd graphics. Can I do it with that pc?

I just want something to try a current/semi current MacOS build to try the newer os.

Yes you can do either of those

 

kwikdeth

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Yes you can do either of those

No he can not.
OpenCore's documentation is horrible and highly conditional. It says on the system requirements page that those old CPUs are supported, which implies they can run modern MacOS, which they can not... As you soon discover about three pages in to the guide.

Support based off of Vanilla Kernels (i.e. no modifications):

CPU GenerationInitial supportLast supported versionNotesCPUID
Pentium 4(opens new window)10.4.110.5.8Only used in dev kits0x0F41
Yonah(opens new window)10.4.410.6.832-Bit0x0006E6
Conroe (opens new window), Merom(opens new window)10.4.710.11.6No SSE40x0006F2
Penryn(opens new window)10.4.1010.13.6No SSE4.20x010676


Modern (Monterey and newer) MacOS will not run on anything older than a fourth generation i-series (ie i7-4770) or a xeon v3.
This is not an opencore limitation, but a macOS limitation from them requiring CPU instruction sets which are not present in older CPUs. That's the same reason 2013 Mac Pros cannot run Monterey or newer despite having more than adequate graphics power to do so.
 
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comeback

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May be they obmit that Opencore Legacy Patcher is required to install modern OS?
No he can not.
OpenCore's documentation is horrible and highly conditional. It says on the system requirements page that those old CPUs are supported, which implies they can run modern MacOS, which they can not... As you soon discover about three pages in to the guide.

Support based off of Vanilla Kernels (i.e. no modifications):

CPU GenerationInitial supportLast supported versionNotesCPUID
Pentium 4(opens new window)10.4.110.5.8Only used in dev kits0x0F41
Yonah(opens new window)10.4.410.6.832-Bit0x0006E6
Conroe (opens new window), Merom(opens new window)10.4.710.11.6No SSE40x0006F2
Penryn(opens new window)10.4.1010.13.6No SSE4.20x010676


Modern (Monterey and newer) MacOS will not run on anything older than a fourth generation i-series (ie i7-4770) or a xeon v3.
This is not an opencore limitation, but a macOS limitation from them requiring CPU instruction sets which are not present in older CPUs. That's the same reason 2013 Mac Pros cannot run Monterey or newer despite having more than adequate graphics power to do so.
 

nathansz

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No he can not.
OpenCore's documentation is horrible and highly conditional. It says on the system requirements page that those old CPUs are supported, which implies they can run modern MacOS, which they can not... As you soon discover about three pages in to the guide.

Support based off of Vanilla Kernels (i.e. no modifications):

CPU GenerationInitial supportLast supported versionNotesCPUID
Pentium 4(opens new window)10.4.110.5.8Only used in dev kits0x0F41
Yonah(opens new window)10.4.410.6.832-Bit0x0006E6
Conroe (opens new window), Merom(opens new window)10.4.710.11.6No SSE40x0006F2
Penryn(opens new window)10.4.1010.13.6No SSE4.20x010676


Modern (Monterey and newer) MacOS will not run on anything older than a fourth generation i-series (ie i7-4770) or a xeon v3.
This is not an opencore limitation, but a macOS limitation from them requiring CPU instruction sets which are not present in older CPUs. That's the same reason 2013 Mac Pros cannot run Monterey or newer despite having more than adequate graphics power to do so.

I understood the question to be can these machines run macos rather than can they run monterey. And I’ve no idea what generation i5 they have

I certainly would not call open core documentation horrible. It’s actually incredibly thorough
 
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bradl

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No he can not.
OpenCore's documentation is horrible and highly conditional. It says on the system requirements page that those old CPUs are supported, which implies they can run modern MacOS, which they can not... As you soon discover about three pages in to the guide.

Support based off of Vanilla Kernels (i.e. no modifications):

CPU GenerationInitial supportLast supported versionNotesCPUID
Pentium 4(opens new window)10.4.110.5.8Only used in dev kits0x0F41
Yonah(opens new window)10.4.410.6.832-Bit0x0006E6
Conroe (opens new window), Merom(opens new window)10.4.710.11.6No SSE40x0006F2
Penryn(opens new window)10.4.1010.13.6No SSE4.20x010676


Modern (Monterey and newer) MacOS will not run on anything older than a fourth generation i-series (ie i7-4770) or a xeon v3.
This is not an opencore limitation, but a macOS limitation from them requiring CPU instruction sets which are not present in older CPUs. That's the same reason 2013 Mac Pros cannot run Monterey or newer despite having more than adequate graphics power to do so.

Hate to say it, but the implication is more of an assumption. Just because they can run MacOS does not mean they can run the latest MacOS. Unless you are adding the support in yourself (hacked drivers or adding the support for the CPU into the source code for the kernel and recompiling it), nothing there implies that the latest MacOS is supported for those older CPUs.

If Sandy Bridge support was dropped from the release after High Sierra, there is nothing I can do to add the support back to the vanilla kernel. That is what this chart is saying here, plus that unless some additional hacking is done, that support won’t exist in the vanilla Monterey kernel, either. They are showing you the last supported version of MacOS for the CPU.

BL.
 

kwikdeth

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I certainly would not call open core documentation horrible. It’s actually incredibly thorough
I would respectfully disagree. I switched to OpenCore for my last three hacks and I have spent more time troubleshooting and chasing down weird gotchas and BTWs than I ever did with Clover or Chimera. The USB Mapping page for example in the guide says it shouldnt be used and a new version will be written... Two years ago. Given how critical proper USB Mapping is on hacks this is a pretty egregious oversight. With how many times this came up for me with my machines, and I'm pretty good at hacks at this point (I've built at least 30), I would be really wary of recommending OC as a solution for somebody who is new to this. Things like the catch I posted in my reply should be on the main compatibility page, not buried in a collapsed section on a sub-page.

I will say however OpenCore is, once you deal with these peculiarities, the most feature-rich and functional of all the hack bootloaders. After many many moons my daily driver is the most "real" Hack I've ever had. But a lot of that is in spite of the OC documentation, not because of it. I had to do a *lot* of research to get it that way.
 

mode11

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Also, there’s no way it needs that - the CPU is juicy (if unlocked), but it’s only running a single 6800XT.
 
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I had $400/month power bills this past winter. Previous high was about $220. My understanding is that Europe had big problems with energy costs this past winter too. There's no need to go out to try to waste money on electricity if you don't need to.
I don't notice a difference in my power bill if I turned off my desktop, 2 monitors etc or if I left them on. It's not pulling 1000w constantly or anything. I always laugh at that argument. It's miniscule on a monthly power usage scale. My power bills in the winter are 1200-2000 a month, but it has nothing to do with my pc running. It's heating the house with an electric furnace. 120,000 watts of goodness. ha ha.
 
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