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MP All Models The "I just ordered/bought/got my new/refurb Mac Pro" thread [Merged]
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Just add extra columns for sorting, no need to be in separete sheets. 
It would be interesting to sort by all shipped config across stores globally.
The no sorting thing is starting to get to me man, it's like a big red sign that say DO NOT PUSH THE RED BUTTON in front of a really shinny red button that has PUSH ME! On it...
It would be interesting to sort by all shipped config across stores globally.The no sorting thing is starting to get to me man, it's like a big red sign that say DO NOT PUSH THE RED BUTTON in front of a really shinny red button that has PUSH ME! On it...
I wake up to find the change to separate tabs has already been made. No problem!
I agree that the health warning wasn't pretty, but we had folks sort the data and not put it back quite a few times, so it seemed necessary. Good that we don't need it now and can use a more conventional font size and color/colour for region names.
I agree that the health warning wasn't pretty, but we had folks sort the data and not put it back quite a few times, so it seemed necessary. Good that we don't need it now and can use a more conventional font size and color/colour for region names.
Just add extra columns for sorting, no need to be in separete sheets.
The no sorting thing is starting to get to me man, it's like a big red sign that say DO NOT PUSH THE RED BUTTON in front of a really shinny red button that has PUSH ME! On it...
Agree on all counts. Just checked it again and its got tabs. do not want!
I was going to wait and see what the consensus was on moving to tabs before making any changes....
Yeah but looks like someone beat you to it and created tabs anyways.
i just want a new computer. 
Just glanced at the spreadsheet
The only thing that jumps out at me is the 2 MP's that were ordered later on the 19th but got some priority by either Apple corporate EPP or placed thru business services - just saying.
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Thats a "working" setup. (Unlike the image comparing the oMP, with no cables, to the nMP.
The only thing that jumps out at me is the 2 MP's that were ordered later on the 19th but got some priority by either Apple corporate EPP or placed thru business services - just saying.
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Thats a "working" setup. (Unlike the image comparing the oMP, with no cables, to the nMP.
The one ordered at 6am is a 8c/64gb/1tb/D700 which matches only 1 other config in the US store, at 12:30 which also shipped.
The other, at 5:45am is a 6c/64gb/1tb/D700 which matches 2 other configs. One ordered at 12:30 which also was shipped, and one ordered at 12:39 which doesn't have any update status. There's no username attached to it, so its possible that person just hasn't come back and updated the sheet. Though its also an edu order (like mine) which I've known in the past sometimes gets de-prioritized.
I was informed though that about 2-3 days ago my order came up for approval, hoping thats a sign that things are moving.
Mine is currently being held hostage in the local UPS facility until they open Monday morning. I've told them to keep it there and I'll pick it up myself. I live on a semi-rural route just off a "seasonal" road and at this time of year I've had bad luck in the past with drivers claiming the road is impassible. I'd rather not wait all day only to find the driver called it a day--been there, done that.
oh, man...
i would have ordered that one. i haven't wanted any of the stock configurations due to the 256GB internal storage.
i can upgrade the RAM later. i'm on the fence for d300 v d500 (i've got two on order from apple; trying to decide).
bummed that i missed that. nice score for you! i'm betting "call" = "february" at this point.
Has Apple forgotten where Europe is?
On the spreadsheet there are 33 orders for Europe only one of which has shipped (lucky man FuzzyDweeb). It's perfectly possible that some of the other 32 haven't updated their entry and there will, of course, have been far more than 33 European orders...
However I think it's fair to say that the spreadsheet must offer a reasonable snapshot of how things stand at the moment and it's not a great leap to suggest that that means a nMP shaped space on our collective desks.
Someone posted (either in this thread, or one of the other nMP threads on Mac Rumors) that despite waiting many months or even years in some cases (I fall in the latter category myself) this last wait between ordering and actually receiving the new machine is by far the hardest wait of all.
On the spreadsheet there are 33 orders for Europe only one of which has shipped (lucky man FuzzyDweeb). It's perfectly possible that some of the other 32 haven't updated their entry and there will, of course, have been far more than 33 European orders...
However I think it's fair to say that the spreadsheet must offer a reasonable snapshot of how things stand at the moment and it's not a great leap to suggest that that means a nMP shaped space on our collective desks.
Someone posted (either in this thread, or one of the other nMP threads on Mac Rumors) that despite waiting many months or even years in some cases (I fall in the latter category myself) this last wait between ordering and actually receiving the new machine is by far the hardest wait of all.
Thanks again for the spreadsheet ....
Is this the future of the Apple ecosystem? Is everything so tied together now that various products can only be updated and released at certain times because of selected parts that are tied to devices that haven't been released yet?
I guess I'm thinking of a situation where Apple does not want to temporarily update a display, keyboard etc. because it's not part of a plan where those items are already in the final stage of design for a future product and can be shared across devices.
Is this the future of the Apple ecosystem? Is everything so tied together now that various products can only be updated and released at certain times because of selected parts that are tied to devices that haven't been released yet?
I guess I'm thinking of a situation where Apple does not want to temporarily update a display, keyboard etc. because it's not part of a plan where those items are already in the final stage of design for a future product and can be shared across devices.
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... Someone posted (either in this thread, or one of the other nMP threads on Mac Rumors) that despite waiting many months or even years in some cases (I fall in the latter category myself) this last wait between ordering and actually receiving the new machine is by far the hardest wait of all.
The notion that "Ships January" means any date prior to February 1 is valid only if any date prior to February 1 has a probability attached to it. Seeing the lack of movement on the spreadsheet, it is becoming increasingly clear that "Ships January" is legal weasel language to mean the end of January at best. With that in mind, every day closer to February 1 makes me feel more resentful of the legal deceit of such a shipping promise.
I am contemplating canceling my order and ordering later this year if my order does not ship prior to the last day of January. I deeply resent the lack of forthrightness on Apple's part. I am willing to forgive if given more information, but this is ridiculous secrecy.
I spend lots of money on Apple toys. The only other time I have cancelled an order was with the antenna-gate excuses ("don't hold it that way").
If it was just the wait from December to January I wouldn't be so pissed as well, but they first teased with "later this year", then "december" (which was pretty much a lie) and now maybe Jan or Feb... I would have gotten a different machine months ago had I known the truth, now it's too late to justify cancelling my order, especially after all this time. I'm tired of trolling these forums, I want to never come back here, goddamn you apple!
I'm with you guys. I think the professional thing for Apple to do, especially with this professional product, is give its customers a more specific timeframe as to when they can expect their orders to ship. Saying it'll ship "in January" or "in February" without being more specific simply isn't professional. The secrecy thing is played out.
have they missed a delivery date yet? i suspect they weren't 100% certain of demand and also are playing it conservative in terms of the new manufacturing facility (and who knows--parts availability, too?).
just how much information should they give us?
i'd think that most folks would assume "ships january" means "ships january 31st" (and be pleasantly surprised if it is earlier). i suspect apple will not miss these dates.
(by the way, i'm in the "ships february" camp, so i feel your pain to a degree.)
then I must not be most people. Having a career military background where if you aren't 15 minutes early then you are late, I expect to have at least a narrow window of the fulfillment date.
As of Monday, for all intents and purpose, it is mid month. If I don't have any information by then they will be bombarded. I have travel that has to be done and I cannot just sit and wait until they bestow their graces. I ordered this computer to do work. I sat up until the site became live to get early in the line.
If I ran my deadline based business like this my clients would leave. If I did not really hate all the working on the computer that Microsoft causes, I would be gone already.
In my last position, I had to fight to keep my Macs. I had to fight to keep them on the network. I don't really know how much money that I have spent with Apple (both business and personal) If I could find a fast 5,1 at the right price, I would cancel and move on.
My interpretation of January means that shipping to people early in the line would commence the first business day of January not the last. Barring uniformed short supply from Intel (which I doubt), they have an real idea when they schedule your unit for delivery. If their logistics were that poor, they would have been out of business long ago. A whole month window for a mass produced product means that they are withholding information.
As of Monday, for all intents and purpose, it is mid month. If I don't have any information by then they will be bombarded. I have travel that has to be done and I cannot just sit and wait until they bestow their graces. I ordered this computer to do work. I sat up until the site became live to get early in the line.
If I ran my deadline based business like this my clients would leave. If I did not really hate all the working on the computer that Microsoft causes, I would be gone already.
In my last position, I had to fight to keep my Macs. I had to fight to keep them on the network. I don't really know how much money that I have spent with Apple (both business and personal) If I could find a fast 5,1 at the right price, I would cancel and move on.
My interpretation of January means that shipping to people early in the line would commence the first business day of January not the last. Barring uniformed short supply from Intel (which I doubt), they have an real idea when they schedule your unit for delivery. If their logistics were that poor, they would have been out of business long ago. A whole month window for a mass produced product means that they are withholding information.
I'll settle for universal next day or 2nd day shipping...
Ground shipping at this point after delay suck...
My bigger question is, are people actually updating the spreadsheet ? And is it time to start Twitter hash tag the spreadsheet so we can get more data points and a better sample. For all we know 10,000 units might have been shipped to business customers on those sale rep orders already... Or 100...
how do you know whether you were "early in line" (sure, you stayed up late, but perhaps people pulled the trigger faster than you) -- and how do you know that they didn't start shipping in early january?
a spreadsheet of a small sample of users is nice but quite possibly not representative of
we have options. apple told us "ships by january" when we purchased. there was no mystery -- but perhaps there were some optimistic assumptions on your part.
i feel bad for you, i really do. you DO have options, though it sounds like you may not want to pay market value for them (MP5,1).
Your simply affected by this as an early adopter and this has traditionally happened in every Apple product launch! Early adoption is your choice!
Even if your not a regular Apple news/forum follower, you can't have missed all the news footage and column inches of people bemoaning the lack of early supply at iOS devise launch and the subsequent 2-3months. iMac and MBP suffer the same way - it's almost an Apple tradition.
As others have said - it's no different to other high value/desire markets either - most new model/launch German cars are 6 months from point of order to delivery! You place your order knowing this.
Lastly, have you spec'd a Dell or HP workstation - you can still end up with the same vague lack of delivery dates/information for BTO machines at point of order. That's on well established lines.
1st world problems again!
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Apple computers usually launch/update right after their announced, this "later this year" teasing, then "december" (right before december) then "dec 30th shipping" (for almost no one) is nothing like that. A glitchy phone that needs some bugs fixed is usually still a phone before the update, this isn't like a software delay.
Some people want theirs, others need theirs for work. On my current (dying) rig there are a great many jobs that I cannot do anymore, and some big ones that are almost done but can't be finished until I migrate to functional hardware. This delay has cost me both time and money, so yeah, I can complain.
Had they been honest my life might suck a lot less, I would've had no problem getting something cheaper that worked months ago, but they blue balled me from July through January and now it's too late cause I can't sacrifice all that time for nothing, it could ship tomorrow for all I know... (yeah right)
Almost 20 years I've used Apple products, never experienced anything like this.Apple computers usually launch/update right after their announced, this "later this year" teasing, then "december" (right before december) then "dec 30th shipping" (for almost no one) is nothing like that. A glitchy phone that needs some bugs fixed is usually still a phone before the update, this isn't like a software delay.
Some people want theirs, others need theirs for work. On my current (dying) rig there are a great many jobs that I cannot do anymore, and some big ones that are almost done but can't be finished until I migrate to functional hardware. This delay has cost me both time and money, so yeah, I can complain.
Had they been honest my life might suck a lot less, I would've had no problem getting something cheaper that worked months ago, but they blue balled me from July through January and now it's too late cause I can't sacrifice all that time for nothing, it could ship tomorrow for all I know... (yeah right)
how long have you been without functional hardware?
you could just buy a 5,1 on monday, have it tuesday, and this could all be done.
in fact, why not just buy a 5,1 from apple's refurb store, and 'evaluate it' for 2 weeks. by then, you after very likely to receive your nMP (or at least have a firm date) and you can choose what works best.
if i had non-functional hardware, i couldn't go months and months without getting something. i for sure would not be able to wait on a 1st-gen product. i'm amazed you could take that risk.
still, apple were clear when you placed the order: ships in january. gotta assume that is "on or before january 31st". that's pretty much the way it is with most people/companies/industries.
january = jan 31
Q2 = jun 30
2014 = dec 31
i understand that one can hope companies mean the first day of that month/quarter/year, but to expect it seems, well, overly optimistic and setting oneself up for disappointment.
My computer reaches a new level of "not functional" each day, so at the time waiting wasn't as hazardous. Each day that passes is a new balance of current function vs. quality of replacement computer. And this close to the finish line I'm tied to what functionality I can get.
But more importantly I don't have enough spare money to buy a 2nd "temp" machine to fill the gap, even if I would later get a refund. One machine is all I can do, so I would have to cancel the nMP first, which would put me at the back of the line. Not willing to go there so long as my current machine still turns on.
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Also, I don't want to get into the specifics of how effects and video editing are done, but copying a project and it's materials is not the same as copying downloaded movies. Things have to be relinked to new file paths, re-rendered, fixed etc. Lots of pro-apps and plugins have to be installed/tested. It takes time, especially if you have a lot of developed stuff. Getting everything seaworthy and ready to go could take at least a week, so I don't wanna have to do that 2 times in a row and loose an extra week.
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Really hope those who can't complete projects without their nMP receive them very soon.
It would be nice to think that that the majority of people who went to the trouble to include their details on the spreadsheet would come back to update it following movement with their orders. We've now seen a few people post on here that they've received their nMPs, some on the spreadsheet and some not, but we haven't seen anyone post that they have received and not also updated the spreadsheet. Even if it is not being fully updated (which I am sure is still part of the story) and under-records the approximate proportion of shipped nMPs, it still suggests that Apple are some way behind with their January orders. However, this assumes that Apple intended to ship the same number in each week of January rather than ramp up to full production over January. That is something we just don't know.
Machines covering the full range of spec (possibly apart from the 12-core CPU) have been shipped, which indicates that Apple isn't waiting for a batch of particular daughterboards/components from mainland China or Taiwan. That in turn might indicate that the issue is really one of human resourcing in Austin, TX. I'm guessing that, for quality control purposes, Apple aren't recruiting additional staff in the factory there on a temporary basis to help fulfil initial orders.
How many of us would have preferred to have a nMP assembled in China and to have received it in Q4 2013? Although Apple can be praised for not outsourcing final assembly, having seen from teardowns that most if not all of the daughterboards/components are made elsewhere, and how few machines have so far been made available, final assembly in the States does now seem slightly gimmicky.
It would be nice to think that that the majority of people who went to the trouble to include their details on the spreadsheet would come back to update it following movement with their orders. We've now seen a few people post on here that they've received their nMPs, some on the spreadsheet and some not, but we haven't seen anyone post that they have received and not also updated the spreadsheet. Even if it is not being fully updated (which I am sure is still part of the story) and under-records the approximate proportion of shipped nMPs, it still suggests that Apple are some way behind with their January orders. However, this assumes that Apple intended to ship the same number in each week of January rather than ramp up to full production over January. That is something we just don't know.
Machines covering the full range of spec (possibly apart from the 12-core CPU) have been shipped, which indicates that Apple isn't waiting for a batch of particular daughterboards/components from mainland China or Taiwan. That in turn might indicate that the issue is really one of human resourcing in Austin, TX. I'm guessing that, for quality control purposes, Apple aren't recruiting additional staff in the factory there on a temporary basis to help fulfil initial orders.
How many of us would have preferred to have a nMP assembled in China and to have received it in Q4 2013? Although Apple can be praised for not outsourcing final assembly, having seen from teardowns that most if not all of the daughterboards/components are made elsewhere, and how few machines have so far been made available, final assembly in the States does now seem slightly gimmicky.
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