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The iOS 10.x.x Beta Speculation Thread

Mlrollin91

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sunny2k1 said:
iOS 10.3.2 is just a minor update update while 10.4 is a major update which could be shipped alongside the 10"5 iPad Pro (2nd Generation). In the past, there were more than one iOS version in the beta testing.
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Ehh thats not really true. Only time there were multiple versions was when iOS 8.4 and iOS 9 were in beta together, but that was for less than 2 weeks. They were just putting the finishing touches on 8.4 and waiting for the release of Apple Music before launching 8.4 publicly. The beta path strictly went to iOS 9.

iOS 9 Beta 1 = June 8th, 2015
iOS 8.4 Beta 4(GM) = June 9th, 2015
iOS 9 Beta 2 = June 23rd, 2015
iOS 8.4 Public = June 30th, 2015
 
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Mlrollin91 said:
Ehh thats not really true. Only time there were multiple versions was when iOS 8.4 and iOS 9 were in beta together, but that was for less than 2 weeks. They were just putting the finishing touches on 8.4 and waiting for the release of Apple Music before launching 8.4 publicly. The beta path strictly went to iOS 9.

iOS 9 Beta 1 = June 8th, 2015
iOS 8.4 Beta 4(GM) = June 9th, 2015
iOS 9 Beta 2 = June 23rd, 2015
iOS 8.4 Public = June 30th, 2015
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Well that could be case with 10.3.2 beta (which should be a "minor" - non-feature update) and iOS 10.4. I don't see a problem with a (minor) bug fixing update being tested along side iOS 10.4 which could be focused on new iPads.

iOS 10.3.2 could be made available by late April/ early May. iOS 10.3.1 needed to be shipped as soon as possible because of the OTA issues for 32-bit devices and the WiFi-Vulnerability caused by iOS 10.3.
 
Mlrollin91

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sunny2k1 said:
Well that could be case with 10.3.2 beta (which should be a "minor" - non-feature update) and iOS 10.4. I don't see a problem with a (minor) bug fixing update being tested along side iOS 10.4 which could be focused on new iPads.

iOS 10.3.2 could be made available by late April/ early May. iOS 10.3.1 needed to be shipped as soon as possible because of the OTA issues for 32-bit devices and the WiFi-Vulnerability caused by iOS 10.3.
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Because its not possible to test both side by side. There is only 1 beta profile, the latest update will be available. This is different than back in 2015 when updates were .ipsw only. Besides anyone testing is going to want to jump ship to 10.4 over 10.3.2 and 10.3.2 might not get the feedback it needs to implement changes into 10.4. This is why 8.4GM came out the same time as 9.0B1 and no more 8.4 builds entered beta. Its not possible.
 
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Back to 10.3.1 much smoother and better 10.3.2 was not great trust me guys no need for new beta 10.3.1 is perfect
 
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Jt69yupper said:
I agree switched back to 10.3.1 last night
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Have you uploaded the sysdiagnose logs, battery power logs from 10.3.2 beta to bugportal?
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dan9700 said:
Back to 10.3.1 much smoother and better 10.3.2 was not great trust me guys no need for new beta 10.3.1 is perfect
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Have you uploaded the sysdiagnose logs, battery power logs from 10.3.2 beta to bugportal?
 
Evelyn Harthbrooke

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dan9700 said:
Back to 10.3.1 much smoother and better 10.3.2 was not great trust me guys no need for new beta 10.3.1 is perfect
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Yeah, 10.3.2 might not have been that great, for your SPECIFIC case. However, things can AND are different for many, many other people, not just you. Don't ask people to switch back to 10.3.1 if people aren't having issues with battery life or performance.

Also, no. 10.3.1 is not smoother & better than 10.3.2. 10.3.2 is MUCH better than 10.3.1 for me. Also, there is a need for new betas. Apple needs to keep updating to keep the OS secure, while introducing performance improvements along with bug fixes. So, yeah.
 
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KamranMackey said:
Yeah, 10.3.2 might not have been that great, for your SPECIFIC case. However, things can AND are different for many, many other people, not just you. Don't ask people to switch back to 10.3.1 if people aren't having issues with battery life or performance.

Also, no. 10.3.1 is not smoother & better than 10.3.2. 10.3.2 is MUCH better than 10.3.1. Also, there is a need for new betas. Apple needs to keep updating to keep the OS secure, while introducing performance improvements along with bug fixes. So, yeah.
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What are you on about lol im saying beta wasn't smoother 10.3.1 is perfect so calm down yeah, the beta gave zero improvement
 
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KamranMackey said:
Yeah, 10.3.2 might not have been that great, for your SPECIFIC case. However, things can AND are different for many, many other people, not just you. Don't ask people to switch back to 10.3.1 if people aren't having issues with battery life or performance.

Also, no. 10.3.1 is not smoother & better than 10.3.2. 10.3.2 is MUCH better than 10.3.1. Also, there is a need for new betas. Apple needs to keep updating to keep the OS secure, while introducing performance improvements along with bug fixes. So, yeah.
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Your post started out so well but then you ruined it by saying that "10.3.2 is MUCH better than 10.3.1." This kind of statement is exactly what you argued against by saying "things can AND are different for many, many other people, not just you."
For me, 10.3.2 beta brought back some issues I was having in 10.3 beta but were fixed in 10.3 public release. Even if we were all on the exact same build on the same model device, some people would have some bugs while others wouldn't because we all use our devices differently and configure settings, accounts etc that differ from others.
 
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dan9700 said:
What are you on about lol im saying beta wasn't smoother 10.3.1 is perfect so calm down yeah, the beta gave zero improvement
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You sure about that? Because "Back to 10.3.1 much smoother and better 10.3.2 was not great trust me guys no need for new beta 10.3.1 is perfect" makes it seem like you're saying 10.3.1 is much smoother and better than 10.3.2 and saying 10.3.2 isn't great. Which is just incorrect.
 
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Mlrollin91

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KamranMackey said:
You sure about that? Because "Back to 10.3.1 much smoother and better 10.3.2 was not great trust me guys no need for new beta 10.3.1 is perfect" makes it seem like you're saying 10.3.1 is much smoother and better than 10.3.2 and saying 10.3.2 isn't great. Which is just incorrect.
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Actually no. You're incorrect and he is not. You aren't using his device. You were the one who said everyone's device will be different. My Air 2 is smoother on 10.3.1 over 10.3.2. Without a doubt. So you should probably limit the use of logical fallacies. Your experience is not his or mine. To say 10.3.2 is MUCH better than 10.3.1 as you stated earlier is a joke and inaccurate. It may be marginal better for some. But not MUCH. And definitely not for everyone.
 
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Mlrollin91 said:
Actually no. You're incorrect and he is not. You aren't using his device. You were the one who said everyone's device will be different. My Air 2 is smoother on 10.3.1 over 10.3.2. Without a doubt. So you should probably limit the use of logical fallacies. Your experience is not his or mine. To say 10.3.2 is MUCH better than 10.3.1 as you stated earlier is a joke and inaccurate. It may be marginal better for some. But not MUCH. And definitely not for everyone.
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I'd appreciate it if you would kindly re-read my post where I said it was much better as I edited it earlier to say it was much better for me as a I left "for me" out. And, no, I am not incorrect regarding my own device. 10.3.2 is smoother than 10.3.1 on my iPhone 7 Plus. Anyways, what I said earlier wasn't a joke and it was not incorrect. I was talking about myself. Anyways, I'm done with this argument. It's stupid and a waste of time. Let's just go back to speculating about when the next iOS 10.3.2 beta will come out, okay?
 
Mlrollin91

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KamranMackey said:
I'd appreciate it if you would kindly re-read my post where I said it was much better as I edited it earlier to say it was much better for me as a I left "for me" out. And, no, I am not incorrect regarding my own device. 10.3.2 is smoother than 10.3.1 on my iPhone 7 Plus. Anyways, what I said earlier wasn't a joke and it was not incorrect. I was talking about myself. Anyways, I'm done with this argument. It's stupid and a waste of time. Let's just go back to speculating about when the next iOS 10.3.2 beta will come out, okay?
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I'm merely calling balls and strikes here with the information that was originally provided. Chazzle called you out, then you edited your post. We can go back to speculating but I'm a stickler for logical fallacies. You can check my post history and I will continue to call them as I see them. That's what law school teaches you. Find the logical hole.
 
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Well, Clips is out with nary an iPad event on the horizon. Making me wonder if we will see a 10.4 or not.
 
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