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Yes, and I’ll explain for the fifth time now that what you just said makes absolutely no sense and is not true. No one will be happier with lower specs and no one wants lower specs.

Let me try to explain this to you another way. Let’s say you had a super car with an 800 hp engine. But the car had a governor which restricted it to 55 mile per hour top speed. The owners of this car would complain about the limited top speed, they would be happy if that limit was removed. They would not be happy to have the engine changed out to a 100 hp engine. And it would be absolutely silly for someone to insinuate that
Ah, but their car never came with an 800hp engine; it had a 100hp engine and MacOS requires a 200hp engine.
 
True, it's why I ended up with an iPad and Mac Mini, which I think is a solid combo depending on your needs.
That is actually what I have now. What I would really like would be to replace the Mac mini with a MacBook the size of the 11 inch MacBook Air or 12 inch MacBook.

For me, I don’t need a whole desktop computer set up, a small laptop would be great for when I need it and it would be awesome if it was super portable so it could serve that purpose as well.
 
Yes, I'll keep doing what I'm doing, which is enjoying my M1 iPad because its great and fun with Lightroom and the creative apps I use.
You should do that. I’m glad that you’re enjoying it. And I hope the people who want a little bit more functionality so they could enjoy theirs get what they want as well.
 
Let me show you something I do with my iPadPro.

A multiple pages sales brochure. It’s fully designed in Affinity Designer for iPad. All the links and images was created in Affinity’s Designer or Photo. Some was imported from PSD files, other imported from illustrator files and most was created from scratch.

In a couple of years ago, I could do this only in Macs, and the most powerful ones! Adobe’s Crappy Cloud was super demanding in hardware those days but now… The work is done with just an iPad, MK and mouse.

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Ow, yes, I have to say that I don’t know why, but this setup runs snappier than my M1 MacMini (8/8cores 8Gb Ram 512 SSD x 11”iPadPro M1 512Gb). And in iPad the display isn’t flickering as in MacOs.
 
Just wait for side-loading to be mandated by the courts and someone will have a dual-boot or dual-OS hack you can install.
I don’t want to do either one of those things. I don’t want to have to hack anything or do something huge just to accomplish a small task.

I just don’t want to have to get up and go use a computer anymore. It’s almost there for me, but not just yet.
 
The air was let out of my balloon last year when they didn’t add a lot to fully utilize the M1. It sounds even more comical when you think about the M2 rumored to go into the next iPad Pro. The specs are so far ahead of the software is a meme at this point.

I’m just going to ride my 2021 iPad Pro for probably a decade or more. I doubt it will ever feel sluggish given how far ahead of the OS and apps its hardware is.

People make it is an all or nothing proposition that Apple can’t add more to the OS without eating macOS sales or something. They also think it needs to be full macOS or bust. It can be something in between and still deliver value and elevate both platforms.

Whatever we get or don‘t get will be up to Apple… I am still firmly in the camp that the iPad Pro is a poor value at its current pricing and feature set except for very specific workflows.
 
I am still firmly in the camp that the iPad Pro is a poor value at its current pricing and feature set except for very specific workflows.
It used to be that the iPad Pro was the best battery life in a highly performant mobile device that you could get. Looking for workarounds for iPadOS deficiencies seemed like it was worth the effort since, for example, my 13" i7 MacBook Pro was such a dog. But with the release of the M1 Macs, that assessment is no longer valid. The M1 MacBook Air gets significantly longer battery life under heavy load than the M1 iPad Pro.
 
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Ultimately isn’t it the fault of the iPadOS and the way they limit file access when a file in one app can’t be opened in another?
It’s my understanding that Apple put share sheets in place, and app developers have to implement them so that a file can be shared from one app to another. But I find a lot of apps are not consistently able to be shared to, I assume because the app developers haven’t done the work.
Also I’m still not sure how to avoid duplicate files.
 
Actually the file system is less user friendly than apps.

Sure, a lot of people on this forum are used to it. But for a usual person, app is actually way more convenient. Photos are in the Photos app. Word files are in the Word app.

Same as with email. We don't search for emails in finder, we use dedicated email clients.

"Eventually, file system management is just going to be an app for pros. And consumers aren't going to need to use it".

Here's Steve Jobs on this:


So an iPad is actually moving in the right direction.
That video is very interesting. I never realized that was the genesis of Spotlight.
 
I don’t know if I could agree with that. The base model iPad might be designed for and marketed to the masses and grandpa to Facetime the grandkids, but the $1,100+ iPad Pro with $300 keyboard/trackpad was designed for and marketed to professional power users.

The issue is that Apple is limiting them to only being able to do around 80% of their work on the iPad. And it’s a voluntary software limitation, the hardware would be able to do 100% of the work.

I just speced an iPad Pro with magic pencil and smart keyboard for $2,877. I don’t think anyone could reasonably believe that is a device for the masses and/or grandparents to play around with.

Who are we to decide how much grandma wants to spend on an iPP? Who are we to decide that grandma also can't have nice things? Why shouldn't Grandma have a nice screen, a good webcam, great speakers, snappy performance?

My 75yo mother/ Father has a 12.9" iPP as their main computing device. The difference here is they are using it as their main computing device....it's not a $2,000 extra on top of the cost of a laptop/ desktop that most people purchase. It is even more important that they get a top of the range product for performance and longevity.

I have an M1 iPP which gets way, way more use than my 14" M1 MAX already. Sure, if it had some extra "pro" software, it would get even more use. However, I do not want MacOS on it.

Using a desktop OS optimised for mouse and keyboard on a touch screen device does not appeal to me. I like iPadOS, specifically for it's target audience.....a computer appliance for the masses. It means I don't have to provide tech support remotely half way around the world. It means my mother or father has zero issues using their device and don't need to be a tech guru to work out how to do anything. They do not need to understand filesystems/ how to become a root user or how to format/ partition disks. They don't need to understand how to locate rogue processes sucking their performance and battery life.

Yes, it's a tasty bit of hardware that us geeks would have no problem putting to good use in an unrestrained format. But, it was never aimed at us as a primary device. It was always aimed a) at the masses as a primary device or b) to power users as a secondary device.

I find it hilarious that the so called "power users" end up purchasing a keyboard/ trackpad to go along with the iPP and then complain it is not able to do the things they want it to do.....when what they really needed was a MacBook all along.
 
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Mostly I get your argument but I can't see why the iPad can't be both. Apple went through this whole 'your next computer might not be a computer' marketing campaign, I know a few of people who bought iPad Pros on the strength of that campaign then became frustrated that they couldn't do the same kind of things on it they would have been able to do on a same-price-or-cheaper Windows laptop because of constraints imposed by the OS and primitive apps which didn't live-up to the capabilities of their desktop equivalents. And this time I don't mean niche-interest apps like Cubase, but mainstream apps like Word (can you even add new fonts to an iPad? How would you even begin?). Consequently their expensive computer-priced iPad Pros became relegated to bedside content-consumption devices, which by and large you don't need to have invested in an iPad Pro for (large screen aside).
That marketing campaign was aimed at the masses... not the 5% geek/ power user community. Those people know the limitations of iOS or should have researched exactly what is possible from the hardware/ software. Besides, Apple has a no questions asked return policy where your friends could have returned their iPads and bought something more suitable for their use cases.

Yes, you can install fonts. It's as easy as downloading an app from the App Store: https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/ipad/ipad952422ba/ipados
 
Some people complained because they want dual-boot despite Apple likely preferring dual-OS.

Some people complained because they want dual-OS despite the majority of iPads not having enough RAM or a large enough SSD to support dual-OS.

Some people complained because they want developers to simply port Mac apps over to the iPad despite not only there being OS differences which would make simply porting apps impossible, not to mention a general lack of interest in porting simpler iPad apps over to MacOS.

Which complaints did I miss?

Porting apps isn't impossible. API's handle screen UI and file saving on both the Mac and iPad. It would be trivial to read the device ID and call the appropriate API's. Xcode handles this already when compiling iPad/ iPhone apps for the Mac. There is no reason to think that this couldn't happen in reverse and allow Mac apps to run on iPadOS now that the Mac and iPad are running on the same processor architecture.

Maybe that's Apple's grand plan going forward, hence why catalyst was implemented in the first instance a good few years back. https://developer.apple.com/mac-catalyst/

Imagine that going forward....a single app cross compiled for iPadOS and MacOS, all handled by Xcode. That's where I see Apple heading - not dual booting MacOS which makes zero sense on a touch screen device.
 
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Ultimately isn’t it the fault of the iPadOS and the way they limit file access when a file in one app can’t be opened in another?
It is possible to save or move files where you like and open it from anywhere. I use onedrive and organise the files in folders containing different files types just like on my Mac. The thing I lack in iPad files App is ability to easy select multiple files. Files does not handle smb links to local network drives very well but as the onedrive exist I do not use the local drives (they are to small anyway).
 
I’m moving in the opposite direction. At this point there’s only about 2% of my work/play that I need a Mac for. And I would be very happy if they would finally make it so I could do everything on my iPad and iPhone so I don’t have to buy another Mac when my current one dies.
What 2% is that? A particular software?
 
No. There is a whole stream of things I can do for example on my 2010 Mac Mini with a measly 4GB RAM running High Sierra that a modern iPad Pro cannot do. Have you looked at the Geekbench score differences between my ancient Mac Mini and a current M1 iPad Air? It's laughable: my Mac Mini has a single-core score of 323 and a multi-core score of 563. The M1 iPad Air has a single-core score of 1711 and 7233 for the multi-core.

So let's imagine a scenario where I only own my 2010 Mac Mini and a modern iPad Air: why do I have to use the infinitely-less-powerful machine to get access to a desktop-class OS capable of running full-fat desktop-class apps like Logic, Cubase, FCP, Premiere, Word, and Photoshop (to name just a few)? Why can I not do that on the iPad?
Because app makers decide not to give you these apps on iPad. Can’t blame apple for that. It would be like blaming Apple for lack of Solidworks and Inventor on Macs.
 
The air was let out of my balloon last year when they didn’t add a lot to fully utilize the M1. It sounds even more comical when you think about the M2 rumored to go into the next iPad Pro. The specs are so far ahead of the software is a meme at this point.

I’m just going to ride my 2021 iPad Pro for probably a decade or more. I doubt it will ever feel sluggish given how far ahead of the OS and apps its hardware is.

People make it is an all or nothing proposition that Apple can’t add more to the OS without eating macOS sales or something. They also think it needs to be full macOS or bust. It can be something in between and still deliver value and elevate both platforms.

Whatever we get or don‘t get will be up to Apple… I am still firmly in the camp that the iPad Pro is a poor value at its current pricing and feature set except for very specific workflows.
The only time a processor is used fully is when beach balling or during long renders. Don’t see that on my Mac very often and if I would, it is time for a faster mac. Most of the time cpu/gpu is not fully utilised on macs either.
 
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