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iPad The iPad is not for traditional Mac users
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That was one example, but the underlying reason XCode isn't on iPadOS is that the OS currently doesn't allow certain things that it would need to be fully functional. It is an iPadOS shortcoming.
To be 100% fair, certain desktop level features could be added for folks who are homeless or in between living situations and an iPad fits super well into handbags and crossbody bags. Although iPadOS's desktop grade webbrowsing means you could easily do most things (make and send resumes or emails to landlords or pay bills) but small improvements would go a long way.
While I'm not a big fan of monitor support on the iPad, making a dock similar to the ThinkPad docks for the T420 would be useful since an organization could provide a keyboard, mouse and monitor and their information could stay on their iPads. Like you could use the Smart Connector to do this. It was a random idea I thought of.
Says who?
Here is a relativity simple complex task I perform on my lowly mac. If ipad is so sophisticated can you please explain how I can move my workflow over to ipad?
Queue up a batch of videos to transcode - might take several hours
Queue up a batch of photo's in Photophop to process from 1 folder to another
While those 2 tasks are processing in the background I can do other things like email, or open a webpage.
This is an excellent way to think about and describe the difference between iPadOS and a desktop, but it’s not one I’ve heard or thought of before. It accurately captures the key limitations I face with my iPP. Thanks for sharing.
iPad doesn’t need much to be more useful. More multitasking would help with pop up windows options for a start. Make more use of the massive space should be a focus
I bought a 2021 12" IPP in an attempt to offload some very basic tasks that I do daily on my desktop. I was hoping that the iPad would allow me to spend less time in my home office. After several months I had to abandon that plan since everyone of these tasks required some convoluted workaround and added unnecessary time to each of them. I want tech to make my life easier and more efficient. Outside of consumption, the IPP fails to accomplish that (for me).
*Some of the limitations were iPadOS and some were apps lacking basic features and inconsistencies in UI across apps. Also I think that a touch interface is way less efficient than a keyboard and mouse.
*Some of the limitations were iPadOS and some were apps lacking basic features and inconsistencies in UI across apps. Also I think that a touch interface is way less efficient than a keyboard and mouse.
I think there is some truth behind the title of this thread - but not the idea the iPad is lesser. For people looking for a traditional computing experience like Windows or macOS, the iPad is going to prove frustrating. In many ways, the iPad was a reset on a computing paradigm, but I think the issue is that iPadOS has developed rather slowly (and in some ways begrudgingly) by Apple to account for user demands in the context of this new paradigm. We can see areas where Apple conceded to the traditional method of doing things (files app) and areas where they’re still trying to find a new way (multitasking).
For me, the iPad excels at more casual use, but the Mac is superior because there some things that iPadOS simply can’t do such as editing/managing a large music library with metadata manipulation, importing CDs, running multiple accounts.
I just don’t think the iPad has caught up on incorporating those uses in its new paradigm and I’m not sure if it ever will. Apple followed the “Pro” market in response to the ability to upcharge and consumer demand, but I still am not convinced that Apple has really deviated from Steve Jobs’ original “cars vs trucks” or “in-between” device mentality.
Users who are used to multiple windows accross multiple displays, unlimited multitasking, and complex workflows are going to be frustrated if they try to force the iPad into that role and should instead understand each platforms strengths and weaknesses.
For me the iPad is a casual use and on-the-go productivity device. It excels at casual tablet things and I use it more than my Mac, but my Mac enables certain workflows that can’t be easily replicated (or impossible) on iPadOS as it stands now. Also, some people are more willing to explore new ways to accomplish an end goal (iPad) while others just want the “tried and proven” way they’ve done it for years (Mac) - Apple has platforms for both users
For me, the iPad excels at more casual use, but the Mac is superior because there some things that iPadOS simply can’t do such as editing/managing a large music library with metadata manipulation, importing CDs, running multiple accounts.
I just don’t think the iPad has caught up on incorporating those uses in its new paradigm and I’m not sure if it ever will. Apple followed the “Pro” market in response to the ability to upcharge and consumer demand, but I still am not convinced that Apple has really deviated from Steve Jobs’ original “cars vs trucks” or “in-between” device mentality.
Users who are used to multiple windows accross multiple displays, unlimited multitasking, and complex workflows are going to be frustrated if they try to force the iPad into that role and should instead understand each platforms strengths and weaknesses.
For me the iPad is a casual use and on-the-go productivity device. It excels at casual tablet things and I use it more than my Mac, but my Mac enables certain workflows that can’t be easily replicated (or impossible) on iPadOS as it stands now. Also, some people are more willing to explore new ways to accomplish an end goal (iPad) while others just want the “tried and proven” way they’ve done it for years (Mac) - Apple has platforms for both users
Actually the file system is less user friendly than apps.
Sure, a lot of people on this forum are used to it. But for a usual person, app is actually way more convenient. Photos are in the Photos app. Word files are in the Word app.
Same as with email. We don't search for emails in finder, we use dedicated email clients.
"Eventually, file system management is just going to be an app for pros. And consumers aren't going to need to use it".
Here's Steve Jobs on this:
So an iPad is actually moving in the right direction.
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There are only a few things I like very much about the iPad OS and the rest, I could not only do without but would prefer something akin a simple MacOS or some of the GUI found with Linux distros. I don't see any reason something a bit more hybrid couldn't be done without offending either camps.
Maybe if you’re Steve Balmer. It was very apparent to a lot of people that this was it.
The iPhone wasn’t the first smartphone, or touch based phone, or iPhone, in fact (there was another device named iPhone before).
You’re right that the iPhone was the first to combine a lot of features and capabilities (while missing others), and in doing so it was the first. It took a lot of rather not well (by other devices and technologies) used features and put them into one rather capable device.
It’s like not the first locomotive, but the first useful and economically viable one. A culmination of different technologies that weren’t put together in such a way before, also it was mass produced and internationally available.
There won’t be another „iPhone“ or locomotive like this but rather improved iterations.
Even a super sonic train is nothing more than a very advanced locomotive, even if it uses electricity etc..
You‘re like the people that were waiting for flying cars it seems to me.
iPhone was a leap. Now we’re taking steps again. That’s what I’m trying to say the entire time, basically.
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Yea, apps like Chunky and VLC does something similar, files that you mostly use in that single app being solely in that app is nice because it does reduce clutter in the file manager.
Less user friendly does not mean less efficient. If the finder was less efficient it would have been replaced on Mac.
The apps system is clearly less efficient on iPad and sometimes it's a real mess. Spotlight adds functionality, but does not replace a finder and never will.
Just to give a example that happened to me a half an hour ago while a was giving a private dance class, I was trying to tranfer an mp3 file from an app to another (in order to slow it down). There was no way to share it to the other app. After several attemps I managed to do it by airdropping to another iPad and then airdopping back to the original iPad... crazy...
I am not Steve Balmer, beleve it or not! ? crazy huh ?
sure bud
we are only taking steps because we dont have visionaries in theese companies. Not because there isn’t where to go next. Thats what I am saying the entire time.
If Apple replaced MacOS with iPadOS, I would immediately go back to Windows -- and I hate Windows.
Which apps are these? Would you consider its because you are not quite familiar with how iPadOS works? it’s a new OS after all…
1. What comes to mind is - you could have saved it to files and than imported it to the other app
2. Or you could have sent it to a ‘clipboard app’ and dragged it from there
3. or you could have just copied it and pasted it in the other app..
depending on the app at least some of these solutions should work
Both MacOS and iPadOS have its place. Apple will replace neither.
I think pro apps are also a key factor to make the iPad more pro. More Multitasking alone isn’t going to do that
I think I know iPadOS decently enough. The app does not support the files app it can only open the files from the music library and how do you add files to the music library without a mac or pc? But I could send an mp3 to it via airdrop
By the way if you know a way to add song to the music library / playlists directy from iPad I'm interested to know, maybe I don't know enough
yes lazy programming, I actually could not import, still it's what happens when you come from an OS without a file system....
Correct. But a more sophisticated OS would make pro app developers more inclined to develop for the iPad.
It seems like the 11 inch MacBook Air or 12 inch MacBook would work much better for you.
I see a lot of people using super expensive large screen tablets and then adding expensive $300 keyboards to them. The form factor turns out to be very similar to a small MacBook, so I wonder if some of those people would be better off buying the MacBook for most of their work and if necessary buying a lower end tablet for when they just want tablet use.
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