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Yes, and having to press it. With no home button and the new gestures, going back to a physical buttons felt a little off. I am not saying it's a huge deal, just kind of obvious that Face ID is a step forward.
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You can make the text larger in accessibility settings.

It's not the same as zoom mode.
 
The iPhone 8/8+ reeks of Apple being afraid to commit to their vision for the future. 8/8+ are inferior in every way to the X. These compromise devices should not exist.

8 is too small.
8+ is too big.
They both have inferior displays.
They both have inferior cameras.
They both have an inferior UX.
TouchID is harder to use than FaceID.

You have to be a truly be afraid of change to use either of those compromise devices. Why pay nearly $1000/US for what is essentially the same phone you already have? Are people just wanting to give a trillion dollar company almost $1000/US as it makes them feel better about themselves?


X has inferior screens to some of the Android flagships, no? Scrap 'em all! Let's grab some of those auto-flip phones Sony made for the Matrix movies instead.

Seriously though, if a screen made for 2017 release is inferior then I'm done.
 
X is a great phone but there's more to a great phone than simply hardware. iOS and apps simply aren't optimized for it yet. Apple is still tweaking things. Those that don't want a beta like experience should get an 8 or 8 plus that offers the best experience (when you factor in software + hardware) right now.
 
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X is a great phone but there's more to a great phone than simply hardware. iOS and apps simply aren't optimized for it yet. Apple is still tweaking things. Those that don't want a beta like experience should get an 8 or 8 plus that offers the best experience (when you factor in software + hardware) right now.
I wish. Then there would be no need for the X.
 
8/8+ wa far from a mistake. Right now they are the more “complete” device than the X. I feel Apple knew it was a beta like device when it came to the X so they made something to fall back on. 8+ is a great device and I’m still up in the air if I’m going to keep the X.
 
I disagree as well, I don't think it was a mistake, but what I do think is they could've added a few more features and/or slightly alter the design to make it fresh and standout from the 6 and 7. I had the X and while a great phone gave it up for an 8 Plus. I love my plus size phones (personal preference) and the zoom display make's it so much easier for me to read things. Perhaps I'm getting old and/or getting used to the plus size :p
 
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The iPhone 8/8+ reeks of Apple being afraid to commit to their vision for the future. 8/8+ are inferior in every way to the X. These compromise devices should not exist.

8 is too small.
8+ is too big.
They both have inferior displays.
They both have inferior cameras.
They both have an inferior UX.
TouchID is harder to use than FaceID.

You have to be a truly be afraid of change to use either of those compromise devices. Why pay nearly $1000/US for what is essentially the same phone you already have? Are people just wanting to give a trillion dollar company almost $1000/US as it makes them feel better about themselves?

Wow, good thing you're not in charge at Apple. Have you not taken any business classes in school yet? Once you do, you'll learn what a "shareholder" is and if you're even kind of smart, you'll understand the rest from there.
 
I wouldnt buy anything at all if it was just the 8/8+. Those are barely upgrades at all. If someone told you the 8 was a 7 no one would question it. They couldve gotten away with an iPhone 7s name tbqh.

Lets be honest. People should stick with a 7/7+ if they are on a budget. Nothing wrong with the 7/7+. It does everything the 8/8+ does minus the wireless charging which literally no one needs and most will barely use if ever use. We have a wireless charging pad at home and we havent used it once since my roommate got his galaxy S8+.

People think they are doing something by buying an overpriced 8/8+ that is barely distinguishable from the 7/7+. There is nothing new being brought to the table.

Chances are people on a real budget don't buy a new phone every year. I went from my 6 to an 8, and I love it.

And I use my wireless charging all the time, it's really convenient.
 
The 8/+ was for people who didn't want to buy into the brand new & unfamiliar design of the X.

I'll consider calling a mistake if the X gets its issues hammered out by July, and they decide to release an iPhone 9/+ in October 2018. THAT would be foolish. It'd be less foolish if the X still has issues by July but even then, I question if they can do a simple iteration for that design another year in a row.
 
Chances are people on a real budget don't buy a new phone every year. I went from my 6 to an 8, and I love it.

And I use my wireless charging all the time, it's really convenient.
I dont buy a new phone every year either. I can also see that Apple is trying to take advantage of people. An iPhone 8 at iPhone 7 prices from last year... ok that is respectable.
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The 8/+ was for people who didn't want to buy into the brand new & unfamiliar design of the X.

I'll consider calling a mistake if the X gets its issues hammered out by July, and they decide to release an iPhone 9/+ in October 2018. THAT would be foolish. It'd be less foolish if the X still has issues by July but even then, I question if they can do a simple iteration for that design another year in a row.
i alluded to this in my OP. People are afraid of change. They hide behind stuff like its not ready yet. The truth is itll never be ready if no one gives it a chance and you learn the kinks and work through them.

I may be just lucky because Ive had almost no issues with my X.
 
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The iPhone 8/8+ reeks of Apple being afraid to commit to their vision for the future. 8/8+ are inferior in every way to the X. These compromise devices should not exist.

8 is too small.
8+ is too big.
They both have inferior displays.
They both have inferior cameras.
They both have an inferior UX.
TouchID is harder to use than FaceID.

You have to be a truly be afraid of change to use either of those compromise devices. Why pay nearly $1000/US for what is essentially the same phone you already have? Are people just wanting to give a trillion dollar company almost $1000/US as it makes them feel better about themselves?
  • The 8+ isn't too big.
  • The display is excellent, it is a different technology.
  • I don't like the color changes if you look at the X from different angles.
  • The 8+ camera is brilliant, it takes beautiful pictures, the X release doesn't make the camera worse either.
  • I have the phone in my hand when I use it, the phone unlocks in much less time than a blink of an eye takes. It's your secret how it is "harder to use".
  • The 8+ is cheaper, costs 240€ ($287,50) less than the X in Europe. ***
  • The iPhone X is the more expensive premium Apple smartphone. I like it but won't buy this generation. it is obvious that it has advantages to the cheaper models. One can expect that with the premium pricing.

So, as a summary, I cannot take your post serious. Have a good day.

*** A 64 gigs 8+ costs 909€ ($1014,85) including tax, a 64 gigs X costs 1149€ ($1282,80) including tax (Prices in Germany).
 
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I don't think the 8 or 8 Plus was a mistake.

I would agree someone on a 7 or 7 Plus should not feel a need to want the 8 or 8 Plus.

However, there are people on iPhone 6, etc. and the 8 and 8 Plus would be wonderful upgrades for them. It gets them into the latest camera, processor, etc. without dealing with a completely different interface experience on the X.

Finally, 8 and 8 Plus also helps ease demand, even if just a smidgen for the hard to get a hold of X. There will be plenty of folks who get an 8 or 8 Plus near the holidays once timeframe for getting the X is January.

It is also possible those who consume a lot of 16x9 video might prefer the 8 Plus? I don't have a X yet to know that, but the screen does seem so much narrower.
 
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If the iPhone 8 didn’t exist I’d not be buying a new iPhone. Can’t stand the compromises and regressions of the X in many ways and I also am not paying $1200 for a phone (I’d need 256GB).

Matter of fact, my opinion is the 8 is better in many ways than the ugly notch, Touch ID-less X.
 

I think this review video echoes why I went with the 8. I came from Android so the stuff people are fawning over just doesn't wow me as much as other people.
 
The iPhone 8/8+ reeks of Apple being afraid to commit to their vision for the future. 8/8+ are inferior in every way to the X. These compromise devices should not exist.

8 is too small.
8+ is too big.
They both have inferior displays.
They both have inferior cameras.
They both have an inferior UX.
TouchID is harder to use than FaceID.

You have to be a truly be afraid of change to use either of those compromise devices. Why pay nearly $1000/US for what is essentially the same phone you already have? Are people just wanting to give a trillion dollar company almost $1000/US as it makes them feel better about themselves?

I couldn't disagree more with the premise of your post. I upgraded from a 6 to an 8 (+ sizes are way too awkward for a pants pocket, which is where my phones go) specifically because I did not want FaceID, i.e., at this point in time readjusting how I interact with my phone, the one device we all use more than any other. I'm not against the innovation, but I'll make a switch down the road when Apple has tweaked and improved the design.

Cameras? There will always be newer and better cameras every year. As for the display, at some point all the improvements go beyond what the human eye and brain can even appreciate.
 
No offense to anyone here, but I feel that a lot of tech enthusiasts have a very self-centered perspective that makes them think that every product must be targeted at them and if they're not interested in it then it shouldn't have been made. The tech companies, on the other hand, want to sell products to as wide a range of people as they can. There are a lot of people who wouldn't have bought any iPhone at all this year if the X had been the only option. Whether because of the price, the design, FaceID, or whatever, it doesn't matter.
 
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I'm still within 14 days and i like x; however, it's a tough choice because i need a big screen, but I like x features...and no..i don't upgrade annually.
 
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If the iPhone 8 didn’t exist I’d not be buying a new iPhone. Can’t stand the compromises and regressions of the X in many ways and I also am not paying $1200 for a phone (I’d need 256GB).

Matter of fact, my opinion is the 8 is better in many ways than the ugly notch, Touch ID-less X.

The best comment I've read here on MR in a while.
 
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The 8/+ was for people who didn't want to buy into the brand new & unfamiliar design of the X.

Yep.

After a year with the 6 Plus and 2 years with the 6s Plus... I went with the sure thing over something new and unfamiliar... and unproven. The #1 feature for me is screen size... and there is no X Plus.

Not sure why the OP is calling out the 8/8 Plus for being inferior though.

8/8+ are inferior in every way to the X. These compromise devices should not exist.

8 is too small.
8+ is too big.
They both have inferior displays.
They both have inferior cameras.
They both have an inferior UX.
TouchID is harder to use than FaceID.

My 8 Plus shares the same storage, ram and processor as the X. Half of these points he's listed are a matter of opinion... and the others are things I could give 2 &#^#s about... which is why I bought the 8 Plus.
 
The iPhone 8/8+ reeks of Apple being afraid to commit to their vision for the future. 8/8+ are inferior in every way to the X. These compromise devices should not exist.

8 is too small.
8+ is too big.
They both have inferior displays.
They both have inferior cameras.
They both have an inferior UX.
TouchID is harder to use than FaceID.

You have to be a truly be afraid of change to use either of those compromise devices. Why pay nearly $1000/US for what is essentially the same phone you already have? Are people just wanting to give a trillion dollar company almost $1000/US as it makes them feel better about themselves?

I love my iPhone X. So happy I got one.

But

I have to disagree with all those main points. The 8 is at least lighter and the 8+ at least has a wider screen which is nice (the X display is mostly same as 8 in 16:9 mode, and everything is cut off when blown up)

The displays on 8 and 8 plus are fine, especially the 8 plus. Sharpness is same.

They all have the same main camera. So there is no inferiority unless you are taking about the dual cameras but no one is going to use the second lens as the main picture taker....The main lens is the superior one

The UX is perfectly fine on 8/8plus and with 11.1 they have 3d touch app switcher

Touch id is not only equally as easy to use (don't need to look at screen for one thing) it's also faster than face ID mate

You could argue being afraid of change would be someone thinking the X is the best phone ever when there are dozens of equally capable and fantastic android devices out there too ;)

Enjoy your X like I enjoy mine but no need to lambast those who chose the 8 or 8 plus...They are excellent devices in their own right and are by no means "inferior in every way" to the X
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I love how quickly people just **** on Touch ID. It was blazing fast and extremely reliable.

But now Apple has ditched it and went with something new, I start seeing ridiculous claims like “Touch ID fails me half the time”, “Touch ID is cumbersome”, and “Face ID is better in every scenario”.

How difficult is it for some sheeps to understand that just because Apple did it doesn’t mean it’s perfect?

Agreed
Look at how long Samsung's OLED panels were mocked and now Apple 's best display ever is using a Samsung panel with the exact same technology....

Every company has their zealots but both so called "Apple sheep" and "Fandroids" are some of the worst.

Touch ID is still fantastic. No wonder we haven't seen a gen 3 yet....Gen 2 is pretty much as good as anyone needs.
 
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