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dk001

macrumors demi-god
Oct 3, 2014
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Been with iPhones since the 3G and Android since the Nexus One.

I do a lot of testing both for work and personal and have been through a lot of Android devices. Currently using the 15 ProMax, S24 Ultra, and Honor V2. Testing the Pixel 9 Pro. My view may be fairly normal or a bit out there.

Take the iPhone 15 ProMax. A physically decent if aged device.
Hardware.
Make it a bit thinner.
Make it a good bit lighter.
Software.
Make it more flexible - don’t lock me into your way of doing things.
Make it more friendly - allow me to link Linux or Windows or …. like I do Mac.
Allow me to add gates to your wall.

In the Android world if I don’t like the way things work, get a new launcher. Don’t like the way it looks, get new icons or theme it. Don’t like your default apps? Change them. Want round edges? Find another design. Want a smaller, larger, folding, scrolling, flipping device? Get one. Some devices may be location locked, but check. Maybe it works (I’m using a V2 in the US).

One ”tale” I drop on friends who ask me the diff between iOS and Android, I tell them this little ditty:

I want my device to do 10 things.
I can look in the Android world and find a lot of devices that can do 8, 9, or all 10 of those things.
I look at iOS and ask if it can do all 10 things. The answer comes back and Apple says it can do 6. Maybe 7. Well what about the other things too? What do I need to add or install to do the others? You can’t. We don’t allow it or we didn’t design it to do that. You want all 10? Buy an Android.

Apple makes great hardware even if it starting to look dated. But there is no flexibility. You buy what they offer or skip Apple.
 
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monstermash

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A thread to discuss all things iPhone between Android users and others. Since we’re in the Android section of an Apple forum, we should be more inclined to appreciate the benefits of both Android and Apple without attacking either platform or users. Let’s keep the discussion intelligent and positive.
I never understand the point of these things. What is there to discuss? If you want what Android phones do, buy an Android phone. If you want what iPhones do, get an iPhone. If you can't decide, get both.

I don't use an Android phone, therefore, Android phones have no benefits to me. They may have benefits to someone else. That's great. What is the point in talking about benefits I will never see? To that end, a lot (most) of what other people see as benefits are not benefits as far as I am concerned.

A lot of what people consider drawbacks of an iPhone are the features I like and are what I am specifically paying for.

I like the walled garden.

I don't care about all kinds of customization.

I don't want to run a different OS.

I don't care about windows compatibility.

I don't want additional app stores.

I don't want Apple wasting its resources on developing any of that. I'd rather it spend its resources on stuff I do care about.

I agree with the post above. If you want a phone that does stuff the iPhone does not do, go buy that phone. I don't understand why that is such a big deal.

On a related note, concerning competing with Android phone cameras.....the same thing applies. You want better hardware? Go buy it! Frankly, I think today's iPhone hardware is good enough. It could easily go ten years with no changes whatsoever as far as I am concerned. Even if Android phones with billion megapixel cameras and 1000x the speed of a PM16 are available - it's a big nothing burger to me. The PM16 hardware is already more than is needed for anything I will do with it.
 
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dk001

macrumors demi-god
Oct 3, 2014
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Sage, Lightning, and Mountains
I never understand the point of these things. What is there to discuss? If you want what Android phones do, buy an Android phone. If you want what iPhones do, get an iPhone. If you can't decide, get both.

I don't use an Android phone, therefore, Android phones have no benefits to me. They may have benefits to someone else. That's great. What is the point in talking about benefits I will never see? To that end, a lot (most) of what other people see as benefits are not benefits as far as I am concerned.

A lot of what people consider drawbacks of an iPhone are the features I like and are what I am specifically paying for.

I like the walled garden.

I don't care about all kinds of customization.

I don't want to run a different OS.

I don't care about windows compatibility.

I don't want additional app stores.

I don't want Apple wasting its resources on developing any of that. I'd rather it spend its resources on stuff I do care about.

I agree with the post above. If you want a phone that does stuff the iPhone does not do, go buy that phone. I don't understand why that is such a big deal.

On a related note, concerning competing with Android phone cameras.....the same thing applies. You want better hardware? Go buy it! Frankly, I think today's iPhone hardware is good enough. It could easily go ten years with no changes whatsoever as far as I am concerned. Even if Android phones with billion megapixel cameras and 1000x the speed of a PM16 are available - it's a big nothing burger to me. The PM16 hardware is already more than is needed for anything I will do with it.

This post should be in a thread titled “Android hardware from an iPhone perspective. ;)
 

Bkdodger

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Jun 6, 2019
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I think the title is perfect. It’s not only hardware it’s software and a lot of the people in here are regulars. We use both platforms.. There’s a good spot to communicate , compare and point out some good features on both sides of the platforms. We get some don’t want to look on the other side of the field but the grass is indeed green and thriving nicely. Both sides have taken some useful and sometimes lol not useful things from each other. Keep it lively discussion and remember your views and needs are not others..
 

Harthag

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Jun 20, 2009
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I never understand the point of these things. What is there to discuss? If you want what Android phones do, buy an Android phone. If you want what iPhones do, get an iPhone. If you can't decide, get both.

I don't use an Android phone, therefore, Android phones have no benefits to me. They may have benefits to someone else. That's great. What is the point in talking about benefits I will never see? To that end, a lot (most) of what other people see as benefits are not benefits as far as I am concerned.

A lot of what people consider drawbacks of an iPhone are the features I like and are what I am specifically paying for.

I like the walled garden.

I don't care about all kinds of customization.

I don't want to run a different OS.

I don't care about windows compatibility.

I don't want additional app stores.

I don't want Apple wasting its resources on developing any of that. I'd rather it spend its resources on stuff I do care about.

I agree with the post above. If you want a phone that does stuff the iPhone does not do, go buy that phone. I don't understand why that is such a big deal.

On a related note, concerning competing with Android phone cameras.....the same thing applies. You want better hardware? Go buy it! Frankly, I think today's iPhone hardware is good enough. It could easily go ten years with no changes whatsoever as far as I am concerned. Even if Android phones with billion megapixel cameras and 1000x the speed of a PM16 are available - it's a big nothing burger to me. The PM16 hardware is already more than is needed for anything I will do with it.
So, don't comment if you feel there's nothing to discuss? If you don't use an Android phone of course you'll have nothing to discuss here. Those who do use Android phones know that so much has changed over the last 2-3 years and it is very exciting to see what the industry is doing. There is a ton to discuss between Apple and Google. This is an open forum created for the sole purpose of discussing tech and specifically Android over here. Nearly all people here have both iPhones and Android phones. We enjoy discussing all things concerning both. Let us nerds be and go browse the iOS threads.
 

The Game 161

macrumors Nehalem
Dec 15, 2010
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So, don't comment if you feel there's nothing to discuss? If you don't use an Android phone of course you'll have nothing to discuss here. Those who do use Android phones know that so much has changed over the last 2-3 years and it is very exciting to see what the industry is doing. There is a ton to discuss between Apple and Google. This is an open forum created for the sole purpose of discussing tech and specifically Android over here. Nearly all people here have both iPhones and Android phones. We enjoy discussing all things concerning both. Let us nerds be and go browse the iOS threads.
Also no android phone is the same. They will have difference strengths and weaknesses.

Obviously if somebody uses IOS there's only one OS and it does the same as every other previous iphone
 
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jamezr

macrumors P6
Aug 7, 2011
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I have 2 more days left on my return window for the 16 Pro max. Contemplating returning. I have been underwhelmed with the phone so far. Then it seems most of the AI features won't available until next year. The P9XL and S24U bot perform just as well and have features that mean more to be at the moment such as AI :)
 

tbayrgs

macrumors 604
Jul 5, 2009
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I have 2 more days left on my return window for the 16 Pro max. Contemplating returning. I have been underwhelmed with the phone so far. Then it seems most of the AI features won't available until next year. The P9XL and S24U bot perform just as well and have features that mean more to be at the moment such as AI :)
There genuinely is no reason to upgrade to a 16 PM from a 15 PM, IMO. The extra screen real estate is negligible and the camera capture button's best feature is the camera quick launch, something that can be done any number of other ways. Using it to change settings is more hassle than using the touch screen. The AI features will be coming to both.

It's a more significant upgrade coming from older models for store but just feels very minimal if switching from a 15 PM. This is the first iPhone generation I won't be using, going all the way back to the original iPhone.
 

SteveJUAE

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Aug 14, 2015
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Land of Smiles
I always thought the best multi function button was the 5d one on the old sony ericsson p900 phone from 2004

I tried the the new camera button on my sons IP16 a bit too fiddly imo especially the push down selection
 

aggie99

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Sep 23, 2016
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I caved and got a 16PM 🤦🏻‍♂️ On the iphone upgrade plan so why not 😂. I do really like the customization options now even though it's not nearly what I can do on my Samsung devices.
 

aggie99

macrumors 65816
Sep 23, 2016
1,002
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Dallas, TX
Was a good day for your Aggies yesterday.
It's been a fun season for sure. I was excited as heck when they hired Elko and brought him back to A&M. I didn't think he would get things turned around this fast, but the dude can flat out coach, and from what I hear within the program, the kids absolutely love that guy and are highly motivated to play for him. As a long suffering Ag, I'm cautiously optimistic, but I can't get the thought out of the back of my head about A&M always stumbling and losing a game they shouldn't.
 

tbayrgs

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It's been a fun season for sure. I was excited as heck when they hired Elko and brought him back to A&M. I didn't think he would get things turned around this fast, but the dude can flat out coach, and from what I hear within the program, the kids absolutely love that guy and are highly motivated to play for him. As a long suffering Ag, I'm cautiously optimistic, but I can't get the thought out of the back of my head about A&M always stumbling and losing a game they shouldn't.
I can relate as a long suffering Michigan fan. Thankfully, we finally broke through last year so i can ride that bit of happiness out for a while before I start feeling the pain again. 😂
 
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mjschabow

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Crazy that every time I get the tiniest of itches to see what's on the Android side, Live Activities is the one thing that brings me back. iOS just does it so well. I know Samsung is starting to implement it so definitely would be interested to see how well they do it compared to Apple.
 
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tbayrgs

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Crazy that every time I get the tiniest of itches to see what's on the Android side, Live Activities is the one thing that brings me back. iOS just does it so well. I know Samsung is starting to implement it so definitely would be interested to see how well they do it compared to Apple.
Yeah, it's a stand out difference I notice daily when using my iPhone next to my Pixel 9 Pro Fold. Live activities now on the Apple Watch is great as well.
 

mjschabow

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Yeah, it's a stand out difference I notice daily when using my iPhone next to my Pixel 9 Pro Fold. Live activities now on the Apple Watch is great as well.
If Android could do something similar, but make it more customizable, that would be huge. Being able to see my fantasy football score without even grabbing my phone is sick. And yeah, adding it to the watch was brilliant.
 
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The Game 161

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Dec 15, 2010
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Crazy that every time I get the tiniest of itches to see what's on the Android side, Live Activities is the one thing that brings me back. iOS just does it so well. I know Samsung is starting to implement it so definitely would be interested to see how well they do it compared to Apple.
yeah it's a game changer for me and a must have.

Samsung bringing it out is great but they need developers to catch on and build it. No point if it's just some stock apps.
 
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