MP All Models The Mac Pro Paradox

[Unregistered 4U]

The Mac Pro is irrelevant revenue vs rest of Apple so it doesn’t matter, but conveniently Mac pros make them a lot of money.

That’s... that’s not “both ways”. The Mac Pro is a tiny sliver of all the revenue that Apple makes... that’s true. AND pros who buy Apple’s insanely expensive Mac Pro makes Apple a profit. Enthusiasts that don’t buy it are NOT making Apple a profit. That’s also true.

he had the charisma to burn them and seduce people into rebuilding that.

Apple came groveling back to the pros after a miststep with Fcp7

You can’t have it both ways. He can’t have the charisma to burn bridges and seduce people and then come groveling back. And, FCP folks will tell you, Apple didn’t come groveling back. They went ahead with FCPX, with no upgrade path, and those who didn’t like it went to other products and never came back. Of course the FCPX market is now larger than FCP7 ever was, so the results speak for themselves.

No need to cover for Apple or Steve Jobs here. Sometimes they burn bridges.

As for you not thinking it’s going to happen

Where did I say it’s not going to happen? If anything, I said if it happens it just won’t be as a response to the amount of tortured apologies on macrumors. Do you honestly and fervently believe that the leadership at Apple makes decisions in that way?

 

[mattspace]

Of course the FCPX market is now larger than FCP7 ever was, so the results speak for themselves.

I'm happy to be corrected, but I recall seeing statistics on this that FCPX ended up with a significantly smaller market share of the overall NLE market, verses FCP7, primarily because Avid, Adobe etc provided a better workflow continuation than FCPX did.

 

[koyoot]

I think we should rename this thread from "Mac Pro Paradox" to "Apple Paradox".

Its not effectively problem with Mac Pro, but problem with Apple catering to "masses", and offering products that will fulfill the "emotional" needs of masses, instead of making usable products, that are universal, flexible, and scalable.

And biggest reason for this is the locked ecosystem of Mac OS. I genuinely started seeing what people are losing with moving to Mac OS, when I jumped ship from Windows to... Linux.

I can't recommend Mac's to anybody right now because they are too expensive toys, that are locked to Apple's design decisions. Its not you who are in control of your experience(which old Mac Pro allowed for). Its Apple.

Of course. There are people who like to let go of their control over their own computing experience, because they are less technical. But Mac Pro, and concept of any workstation is in complete opposition to this. Now lets look at Mac Pro 7.1. Its exactly designed around this concept of Apple controlling the experience.

And that is the biggest problem of Apple in 2020.

 

[Abazigal]

I'm happy to be corrected, but I recall seeing statistics on this that FCPX ended up with a significantly smaller market share of the overall NLE market, verses FCP7, primarily because Avid, Adobe etc provided a better workflow continuation than FCPX did.

I don’t have the numbers, but I think when Final Cut Pro X came out, seems like Apple decided that the future of movies was not Steven Spielberg but Casey Neistat. And that all these “hobbyists” on YouTube would be the future market for FCPX.

That’s what Apple does - make bets on what they think the future holds. I don’t see it as apologising for them or trying to justify bad decisions. They aren’t perfect, but Apple isn’t run by idiots either, and while this doesn’t make the absence of a xMac any easier to swallow, I feel there is value in trying to analyse and interpret what they are trying to do and why.

 

[ZombiePhysicist]

That’s what Apple does - make bets on what they think the future holds. I don’t see it as apologising for them or trying to justify bad decisions. They aren’t perfect, but Apple isn’t run by idiots either, and while this doesn’t make the absence of a xMac any easier to swallow, I feel there is value in trying to analyse and interpret what they are trying to do and why.

I disagree on youre FCP assessment but that's irrelevant and think your above statement is pretty fair and we can agree on it. However, it's also fair when on the rare occasions they do make missteps, they should be called out on it, rather than have excuses made for them, and thereby we increase our chances of them correcting those relatively rare mistakes sooner, rather than later.