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The only thing a 2012 does not do is 4K video output (>30Hz).
If you want a Mini that does 4K, you have to wait. Period.
And maybe for a long time.

No, that is not the only thing wrong with the 2012 Mini. I've been holding out for a refresh with the Iris graphics that fixes a clock tree bug in the HD 3000 and HD 4000 video chipsets that prevent the Mac mini from playing 24p video properly.

Major screw up from Intel who was supposed to fix it in the HD4000. If you attempt to sync your Mini with high def content you will drop frames.
 
When does Apple period "mid 2014" expire? Is it possible to see a new Mini before the end of August?
 
just bought the base late 2012 model, 5400-rpm HDD is ultra slow and HD4000 out of date, but I couldn't wait any longer. In my opinion new model won't see the light of day this year and will be introduced at WWDC '15.

I finally bought one too, my 2006 iMac slowing to a crawl just opening Safari happened for the last time. Got the base model refurb from the Apple Store. With the stock 4GB of RAM things were better but I was still a little disappointed. This morning I put an 8GB chip in with one of the 2GB for 10GB total (I know pairs are ideal, but I eventually want 16GB but couldn't justify the extra cash right now for 2 8GB chips). The performance improvement is immense.

Once my exchange period is up, I have two more Tuesdays, come on!, I'll put in an SSD and create a Fusion Drive and this thing should fly for what I need it for.
 
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Normally I would do all that stuff because it sounds like a smart move. But, however, I will not be able to do it today as I am busy looking for my crack pipe and that is taking all my time.

I am calculating where I may have put it on an Excel spreadsheet on my OLD Mac mini!

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Although I used the operating system that must not be named since MS-DOS, I used that nice little machine while working on a paper with a colleague who only used Macintosh. It was fine for word processing, and great for Loadrunner! :apple:
 
When does Apple period "mid 2014" expire?
AFAIK,

"Early" is anything between and INCLUDING
01-2014 - 03-2014
"Mid" is anything between and INCLUDING
04-2014 - 09-2014
"Late" is anything between and INCLUDING
10-2014 - 12-2014

I think we will see the new Haswell Mac mini between 10. September 2014 and 31. October 2014.
 
When does Apple period "mid 2014" expire? Is it possible to see a new Mini before the end of August?

I think "mid" includes August but not September, which makes sense since the "early", "mid" and "late" parts of the year are then four months each.

There was a post in another thread with evidence to support this, although I have not double-checked this against what Apple actually calls these models.
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/19417608/

That being said, I don't have high hopes for next Tuesday and a mid 2014 Mini by this definition. I think an update is more likely to coincide with the September event (could be a silent update if they deem it unworthy of time at the iPhone event), or October for that matter if that's when Yosemite will be released.
 
So.. if we turn on the logic, we have 3 evidences for will predictive upgrade in this Tuesday (or end of August).
1. Boot camp "mistake" from Apple support for announce mac mini and iMac (mid 2014)
2. It's not something unusual to view new versions of mac mini and iMac in August
- iMac, Mid 2007, introduced: August
- Mac mini, Mid 2007, introduced: August

3. Look apple store right now, There is missed high end iMac 27" with flash storage maybe starting for 2499$ even there is free space for this iMac27"
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..and of course mac mini page is dusty for a long time ago. There is no flash storage, and every Mac have already graphic 5000 and haswell of course.
Only.. if my logic is correct, I think we will not see new mac mini design. But maybe this is better ;)


That's it! I hope so I encourage all. Cheers! :apple:
 
The bad on a Mid'14 update is no new form factor (I'm of those that don't like the pizza box like mini), so no ground breaking novelty.

A new form factor would allow for a full passive cooling , smaller footprint, etc etc...
 
..and of course mac mini page is dusty for a long time ago. There is no flash storage, and every Mac have already graphic 5000 and haswell of course.
Only.. if my logic is correct, I think we will not see new mac mini design. But maybe this is better ;)
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There is still a non retina MacBook Pro with 4000 graphics.
 
and.. don't forget something important. Apple don't want mac mini "eat bread" of the iMac. For apple mac mini is not priority product and will never see something special for this computer, but they have to hold it high because this is Apple.
Maybe you are right for this "full passive cooling , smaller footprint, etc etc..", but not in the near future.
 
just bought the base late 2012 model, 5400-rpm HDD is ultra slow and HD4000 out of date, but I couldn't wait any longer. In my opinion new model won't see the light of day this year and will be introduced at WWDC '15.

Get the drive install kit from OWC and install yourself an SSD. I have a 240GB SSD combined with the original 1TB HD into a Fusion drive. System is awesome fast.
 
and.. don't forget something important. Apple don't want mac mini "eat bread" of the iMac. For apple mac mini is not priority product and will never see something special for this computer, but they have to hold it high because this is Apple.
Maybe you are right for this "full passive cooling , smaller footprint, etc etc..", but not in the near future.
Maybe Apple Don want to eat bread the iMac, of course but I think the mini fills the gap on two very important markets: media center (or living room pc) which uses to connect the mini to big TV as monitor (40"+),and the other special market is the high end calibrated graphics displays ( some professional simple can't calibrate enough an iMac to reach they exigencies) very Common at newspapers and advertising photo editing workstations, the first need a 4K capable mini *don't bother if game capable*, the later also need an more powerful mini if possible loaded with powerful GPU for gpu accelerated apps (open cl, cuda)... So I believe on a fairly loaded mini to come soon.

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I forgot, an passively cooled mini will make it the "de facto" std on sound recording studios and other audio related applications which now uses a mac book air.
 
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It may be possible for lower end Broadwell processors to be fanless but may have to wait for Skylake to be totally fanless at higher end and that's a couple of years away the way Intel is delaying and dealing with manufacturing woes.

And of course we don't know what Apple has planned for ARM.
 
It may be possible for lower end Broadwell processors to be fanless but may have to wait for Skylake to be totally fanless at higher end and that's a couple of years away the way Intel is delaying and dealing with manufacturing woes.

And of course we don't know what Apple has planned for ARM.
Not mandatory to migrate to Broadwell or Skylane unless you wanna keep the form factor unchanged, so if Apple delivers an cylinder *Mac Pro* like mini a full passive cooling with Haswell could be achieved also with 65W cpu as actually existing fanless custom pc achieves at room temperature, and all this at the half size of a mac pro (I'm familiar with current fanless pc).

About ARM, this will not happen at least to personal Mac, but a possibility for Mac servers (also a mac server appliance), but on medium term, Intel provides the best solution by far.
 
Not mandatory to migrate to Broadwell or Skylane unless you wanna keep the form factor unchanged, so if Apple delivers an cylinder *Mac Pro* like mini a full passive cooling with Haswell could be achieved also with 65W cpu as actually existing fanless custom pc achieves at room temperature, and all this at the half size of a mac pro (I'm familiar with current fanless pc).

About ARM, this will not happen at least to personal Mac, but a possibility for Mac servers (also a mac server appliance), but on medium term, Intel provides the best solution by far.

Unfortunately, IMHO, Apple looks at the Mini as an entry level lowest priority desktop machine it makes. Thats 3 strikes and if you add profit per machine to that, that's four strikes.

And considering that the desktop PC is only 20% of their business which IMac is their most profitable and popular, I would say the Mini has been lucky to survive. It may count for 1% of profit but I doubt it. More like .1%.

I doubt that they will invest a whole lot into R&D.


Edit: No, I have that wrong.
I believe Macs are only 20% of the business and portables account for 80% of that.
 
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Unfortunately, IMHO, Apple looks at the Mini as an entry level lowest priority desktop machine it makes. Thats 3 strikes and if you add profit per machine to that, that's four strikes.

And considering that the desktop PC is only 20% of their business which IMac is their most profitable and popular, I would say the Mini has been lucky to survive. It may count for 1% of profit but I doubt it. More like .1%.

I doubt that they will invest a whole lot into R&D.
All investment depends on returns, if you invest A to gain A+B, be sure Apple will got this *B* profit, not matters if account for 1% (which in Apple scales could mean hundred millions), look at Zotac they do the R&D for their Haswell mini pc, I think they don't sell 10% of units Apple sells as Mac Minis, and actually Zotac is one of the most profitable pc vendor.

When we speak of pc (Mac) development is not the same effort than on other products, 1st 99% it's done by Intel, what Apple does is yo integrate what the industry offers, this usually the work of small teams (less than 50ppl), the Mac mini as the Mac Pro are the cheaper on R&D, since Apple just need to integrate bios (firmware) cpu, gpu, storage and cooling, iMac and laptops are much more expensive to R&D since you further need to develop the display and integrate, also batteries require a lot of R&D most due safety and due manufacturing challenges, a desktop w/o monitor obviously much cheaper to R&D and mostly is well know or just require to follow Intel recipes, not as complicated as an iPhone or iPad with much more R&D needed.
 
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All investment depends on returns, if you invest A to gain A+B, be sure Apple will got this *B* profit, not matters if account for 1% (which in Apple scales could mean hundred millions), look at Zotac they do the R&D for their Haswell mini pc, I think they don't sell 10% of units Apple sells as Mac Minis, andactually Zotac is one of the most profitable pc vendor.

Zotac is the new Mini PC master. They specialize in Gaming PC's and componets. That's where their profit lies.

They don't make tablets and phones.

Apples and "oranges". ;)
 
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