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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming

Mago said:
What software it is?

I've am degree in computer science, decade and half ago I used to run analog circuits simulations thru pspice, math cad etc, many times I simulated circuits with tube amplifiers, and all this was done on my powerful 486 pc with obscene 128 mb of ram, those simulations recreated with high precision every wave, so I'm curious why some audio simulations today requires that much cpu time, maybe the software was so inefficient coded or the simulations it's focused on animations than the true comments of the audio signal.
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He must be running Cubase, that is the worst and laziest coded DAW software I've ever used (despite a great feature-set). Add in some bad plugins and him over-processing things with large chains over many channels and an i5 could easily get bogged down.

I have the 2.3 i7 mini in a studio environment with a 256gb SSD set up in fusion mode, running Reason 7 and it absolutley flies. I've also never heard the fan turn on since the day I bought it btw (about 1 month ago, yes I gave up).

With an SSD the 2012 model is still a very capable machine. It should be fine for anyone wanting to use it for work/internet and anything that is not 3D modelling/heavy video work or gaming. If you are serious about gaming though you still need a PC, just for the sheer volume of titles that are PC only.

That said, I'd love nothing better than a concerted effort by Apple to create a Gaming Mac and a push for AAA devs to start releasing native Mac versions of new games. I'd love to be PC/Windows free at home.
 
I know that we have a rumor that points to a possible new Mac Mini coming in October (2 or 3 weeks from now), but since today is Tuesday and I don't have much to do...

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For those who don't know, it's from Game of Thrones...
 
I don't care too much about gpu , but the only reason i'm not buying current mini is the lack of 4k monitor support and i already own a Samsung U28D590.
I've got spoiled by my ipad retina screen .

So the way i see it is thatApple has no product for me and does not want me as a customer .
 
Well, were are on the right page to hit four thousand, but it now looks like it will be next month before it actually happens…….

And it is increasingly looking like next year before a new Mac Mini happens.
 
Balckoutgr said:
So the way i see it is thatApple has no product for me and does not want me as a customer .
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I feel the same way. If you read the various Mac forums you find a lot of people who really like Macs. Instead of choosing the Mac that works perfectly for them they have to choose a Mac and then try to make it work for them as best as possible. That's sad.
 
scottsjack said:
I feel the same way. If you read the various Mac forums you find a lot of people who really like Macs. Instead of choosing the Mac that works perfectly for them they have to choose a Mac and then try to make it work for them as best as possible. That's sad.
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It's not so much I love Macs as I prefer the OS and if I could buy the machine I want that would run it seamlessly I probably wouldn't buy a Mac.
 
scottsjack said:
I feel the same way. If you read the various Mac forums you find a lot of people who really like Macs. Instead of choosing the Mac that works perfectly for them they have to choose a Mac and then try to make it work for them as best as possible. That's sad.
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A few years ago when I bought my first Mac, I went with the iMac because I felt it was a great machine. I've been thinking about a new Mac for a few months now, but I don't like what Apple has to offer unless the Mini turns out to be a good update.

I don't like the way iMacs are designed now because I can't upgrade them myself and getting a BTO with the specs I want is too expensive. Besides that I'm considering moving to a dual display setup and I would prefer to have both screens identical so that kinda crosses the iMac off the list to begin with.

The Mac Pro is an overkill and over-budget for me.

Using MacBook in clamshell mode...the MacBook Air is too week and non-upgradable...the MacBook Pro is also non-upgradable.

The last hope is the Mac Mini, if it's not a solid update, then I "will have to choose a Mac and then try to make it work for..." me "...as best as possible."

And as Crosscreek said, I think what I really like is the OS!
 
Micky Do said:
Well, were are on the right page to hit four thousand, but it now looks like it will be next month before it actually happens…….

And it is increasingly looking like next year before a new Mac Mini happens.
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Probably because when it got posted on the front page that the mini will be coming in October, everyone decided it really will be coming in October, and there's nothing to do but wait until October.

On the bright side; next Tuesday is in October, so the new Mac mini is certainly coming then!
 
Crosscreek said:
It's not so much I love Macs as I prefer the OS and if I could buy the machine I want that would run it seamlessly I probably wouldn't buy a Mac.
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Me too.

I am not a geek into all matters computer, and given to tweaking them and keeping up with the state o the art. I want something I can just plug in and use with minimal hassle. OS X meets that requirement.

The original Mac Mini was my first computer back in 2005 because it was the first desk top that was small enough to be easily transportable. I didn't want a portable to tote from home to work to cheeky cafe. However, having moved often over the years, including between continents, I wanted something that could come with me, and could easily be set up on a desk using locally available peripherals. The first computer to match my needs was the Mac Mini, and it remains so.

I dozed off for a bit, and woke just after the witching hour. Where I am at, the thread has not yet cracked the 4,000 milestone, but with just thirteen to go, it could still do before the day is done the world over.
 
iFitzgerald said:
A few years ago when I bought my first Mac, I went with the iMac because I felt it was a great machine. I've been thinking about a new Mac for a few months now, but I don't like what Apple has to offer unless the Mini turns out to be a good update.

I don't like the way iMacs are designed now because I can't upgrade them myself and getting a BTO with the specs I want is too expensive. Besides that I'm considering moving to a dual display setup and I would prefer to have both screens identical so that kinda crosses the iMac off the list to begin with.

The Mac Pro is an overkill and over-budget for me.

Using MacBook in clamshell mode...the MacBook Air is too week and non-upgradable...the MacBook Pro is also non-upgradable.

The last hope is the Mac Mini, if it's not a solid update, then I "will have to choose a Mac and then try to make it work for..." me "...as best as possible."

And as Crosscreek said, I think what I really like is the OS!
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Don't be too optimistic, it's not only an Apple trend but an industry trend now to deliver non upgradable products, as every budget to mid range laptop (except on barebones) now comes with cpu and ram soldered, Zotac an very popular barebone seller now only sells devices with soldered cpu but go farther on it last announcement the zbox pico comes with everything soldered: cpu, ram, ssd also preloaded with wincrap8. So it's very likely not to say an fact the next mini will arrive with soldered ram, cpu and maybe ssd (at least the lower end models).

The good news is that seems Apple will release it sooner than we expected in less than two we weeks.
 
Mago said:
Don't be too optimistic, it's not only an Apple trend but an industry trend now to deliver non upgradable products, as every budget to mid range laptop (except on barebones) now comes with cpu and ram soldered, Zotac an very popular barebone seller now only sells devices with soldered cpu but go farther on it last announcement the zbox pico comes with everything soldered: cpu, ram, ssd also preloaded with wincrap8. So it's very likely not to say an fact the next mini will arrive with soldered ram, cpu and maybe ssd (at least the lower end models).

The good news is that seems Apple will release it sooner than we expected in less than two we weeks.
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Are there any advantages of soldered internals for the end-user?
 
Crosscreek said:
It's not so much I love Macs as I prefer the OS and if I could buy the machine I want that would run it seamlessly I probably wouldn't buy a Mac.
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Drawing that line...

I'll build a hackintosh if nothing is released this month. Tonymacx86 and InsanelyMac have made things so much easier.
As much as I dislike the precautions and steps you need to take for every system update, the performance and power is so appealing.

I like that macs keep some value and when it comes time to upgrade selling a mac is very easy instead of parting out a build.

starting countdown!!!
10!
 
patohi said:
Drawing that line...

I'll build a hackintosh if nothing is released this month. Tonymacx86 and InsanelyMac have made things so much easier.
As much as I dislike the precautions and steps you need to take for every system update, the performance and power is so appealing.

I like that macs keep some value and when it comes time to upgrade selling a mac is very easy instead of parting out a build.

starting countdown!!!
10!
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Yes, that is very true about holding value and another plus in the Apple column.

Now if they would just offer us a headless Mac with some balls in it and options to self customize and upgrade.
 
realuseless said:
He must be running Cubase, that is the worst and laziest coded DAW software I've ever used (despite a great feature-set). Add in some bad plugins and him over-processing things with large chains over many channels and an i5 could easily get bogged down.
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FWIW, I think Cubase and Nuendo are actually coded very efficently for Windows PCs and run well in that environment. The problem is they never spent time properly optimizing the Mac OS versions. I spoke with a Steinberg guy a couple weeks ago who told me they are working on a natively developed Mac OS version which is supposed be much better.
 
I think the issue of non-upgradable machines is an interesting and predictable move by most manufacturers.

From what I have read it's cheaper to design and manufacture a non-upgradeable solution. The second issue is profits. The competition among OEM's is cut throat, with margins in many instances razor thin. If we add the fact of customers demanding ever cheaper solutions, coupled with online shopping, then it's easy to see why we have ended up where we now find ourselves.

It's the inevitable consequence of consumerism.
 
patohi said:
Drawing that line...

I'll build a hackintosh if nothing is released this month. Tonymacx86 and InsanelyMac have made things so much easier.
As much as I dislike the precautions and steps you need to take for every system update, the performance and power is so appealing.

I like that macs keep some value and when it comes time to upgrade selling a mac is very easy instead of parting out a build.

starting countdown!!!
10!
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you can start building today
not gonna happen
the current mini is fast enough for server purposes so
 
patohi said:
Drawing that line...

I'll build a hackintosh if nothing is released this month. Tonymacx86 and InsanelyMac have made things so much easier.
As much as I dislike the precautions and steps you need to take for every system update, the performance and power is so appealing.

I like that macs keep some value and when it comes time to upgrade selling a mac is very easy instead of parting out a build.

starting countdown!!!
10!
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Good luck to you, if huge power and performance is what you crave, and mucking around with computers is your thing, and you are prepared to put in the time.

Being just an ordinary average Joe, something that just works is fine by me. It would not be worth the hassle.
 
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