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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming
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I can no longer sit back and allow iPhone indoctrination, subversion and the international Fanboy conspiracy to sap and impurify all my precious bodily fluids!
My argument:
In my original post.
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I may have overestimated my fanboy to iphone sales ratio, but my initial argument stands: more mac users have bought iphones than iphone users bought mac.
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In my original post.
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I can no longer sit back and allow iPhone indoctrination, subversion and the international Fanboy conspiracy to sap and impurify all my precious bodily fluids!
I may have overestimated my fanboy to iphone sales ratio, but my initial argument stands: more mac users have bought iphones than iphone users bought mac.
The only problem is, even if all 20 million (average per year) Mac users stopped buying iPhones, that would mean 250 million iPhones sold per year instead of 270 million...
Therefore? There is no therefore. How could there be a therefore? There's no therefore.
You have to read that using the voice of George Costanza.
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Does Apple sell 270 million iPhones per year? Where did you get that number?
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By the time it comes out we will all be fossils. And, all the ports will be USB-C and no headphone jack. Along with the non-upgradeable innards. Jony should just admit that his goal are products that are all white and one angstrom thick and perfectly smooth ... like a flattened cue ball.
Don't forget, it will be Core M based so it can be fanless and super thin!
You just contradicted yourself.
Microsoft never used to make PCs. But their phones failed, so now they're not only making PCs, but they're making amazing PCs which look like Apple should have made them.
Anyone who cares at all about the future of the Mac needs to unglue their eyes from their iPhone, and stop buying new ones every year.
Seriously. You have only yourselves to blame.
Please show me the contradiction, I don't see it.
Correlation is not causation. You think microsoft is making computers because their phone flopped? There are lots of other possible explanations, such as new management; they wanted to get into the tablet market, developed an OS out of windows for mobile and desktop and are running with it; Apple arrogantly left an opening by not bothering to refresh their computer line, and Microsoft jumped in.
If everyone reading this thread stops buying iPhones Apple would never notice that drop in the bucket.
“The iPhone isn’t stopping Apple from doing anything…” contradicts “…they don’t seem to want to put much into computers these days,” but you’re leveraging the correlation is not causation loophole to pretend that you don’t see it, ignoring the fact that sometimes correlation is evidence of causation, particularly in the absence of other, more compelling evidence.
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A tiny iPhone SE geekscore is faster than my old mini. The Mini is a dimensionally gigantic computer by today's standards. Hardly deserving of the name. It was a marvel in its day, but boring old giant tech nowadays. Something has got to give.
The next Mini performance could easily fit inside a 2" cube.
Imagine that
The next Mini performance could easily fit inside a 2" cube.
Imagine that
Actually, the geekbench scores for practically any modern computer will also be better than your old Mini. Apple desktops have not been competitive in hardware speeds for a very long time...
Er, nope, also not true. Any device capable of storing 2.5 inch drives internally will naturally also be roughly the size of the Mini. Smaller devices, such as the Skull Canyon, have to sacrifice that feature.
I don't think the Mini was ever a "marvel", even when it was introduced more than a decade ago. It was merely a small-form-factor PC. It was, however, the most inexpensive and flexible manner with which one could gain access to OS X. And that was nothing to sneeze at.
Absolutely pointless. The Mini is a desktop computer; there's no need to make it small enough to fit in your pocket. Moreover, the smaller it gets, the more you have to sacrifice: internal drive space, the quantity of ports available, the amount of heat you can easily disperse, even the noise level! (Small fans are actually louder than large fans, as they have to run faster to move the same quantity of air.)
No, the Mini is plenty small already. All of Apple's computers are plenty small already. The sacrifices being paid to achieve this slimming down are becoming all too apparent now, as prices increase (significantly!) and functionality drops. Apple would do better, I think, to return to a form-factor that allows them to catch back up to the rest of the world in terms of flexibility and performance, as well as to lower their prices. Even if their machines must grow a little again.
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Several NUCs can hold 2.5" drives and are only about 40% of the volume of a Mini. That said, that's about the smallest you can get with 2.5" drives.
I'd suggest to Apple to make them larger. Larger like the Asrock Deskmini 110. It's larger than the Mini (2.5L in volume compared to 1.4L). However Apple can then save money on cheap (and industry standard) mini-STX boards, cheaper S series cpus, cheaper assembly, cheaper warranty repair, cheaper everything for the same sales price. What would customers get? S series processors are much more powerful than U series processors. The speed difference? The i7-4578U (retail price $426) is the fastest you can get with the 2014 Minis. The very low/junk end i3-6100 (S series, retail price $117) is 15% faster. If not something like the Deskmini, then something like the MSI cubi 2 plus (1.5L volume) that uses T series processors
This came through in my email as "You'd be a terrible detective." Odd.
What the . . . ? Maybe it’s a sign that we should give this argument a rest.
Well if you both giving up this easily I guess you would be terrible detectives
I recently got a 2012 2.6ghz quad mini, and a quick test of video rendering showed it to be exactly twice as fast as my base 2012 mini, which was to be expected since the quad geekbench score is about twice the base model. Tried another test comparing the quad to my i7 MacBook Air, which has a geekbench score about 7% higher than the base mini.
The rendering speed had a big gap however, the quad mini was 2.5 times faster than the MBA. I don't know for sure, but my guess is that this has to do with better cooling on the mini, whereas the MBA gets hot and throttles the CPU. The fans kick into high very quickly when you start rendering video. Anyway, it wouldn't surprise me if Apple did decide to turn the mini into a 2" cube, but that would surely have an impact on performance. The mini is small enough for a desktop system, I don't need to carry it with me when I travel.
And it's really tightly packed inside there already. Was thinking about installing a SSD in my base 2012 Mini, and after looking at the tutorial on OWC's site I decided it wasn't worth it. Did Apple intentionally make it this hard to take apart? Makes no sense to me. All things being equal, I'd prefer a bigger Mini that was easy to take apart and upgrade. Of course, we will never see that from Apple.
That 2012 2.6 was the best Mini ever. As the refresh 2014 was due I think we were all hoping Apple would improve on that and the 2.3 but at last they failed us.
A lot of us WOULD be buying the latest models, if only they weren't literally 2-, 3-, and 4-years old.
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I just received an email from Fry's Electronics advertising the base mini for $429, and the next one up for $579.
I was getting ready to jump in the car and head down to grab one, but then I started looking at the specs.
4th Generation processor? Thunderbolt 2? traditional hard drives? two years and no revisions? The last revision only upgraded the USB 3 and 802.11ac. The rest seems like downgrades.
All that aside is anyone happy with the base model with 4gb of ram and a 500gb drive? Or the 2.6 with 8gb of ram and a 1TB traditional drive?
I was getting ready to jump in the car and head down to grab one, but then I started looking at the specs.
4th Generation processor? Thunderbolt 2? traditional hard drives? two years and no revisions? The last revision only upgraded the USB 3 and 802.11ac. The rest seems like downgrades.
All that aside is anyone happy with the base model with 4gb of ram and a 500gb drive? Or the 2.6 with 8gb of ram and a 1TB traditional drive?