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Probably they could pull it off to put the base M1 into an AppleTV-sized housing. But I'm not sure it'd be worth it: The internal PSU is one of the major selling points of the current mini design. And the required ports for a "true" computer would need more space than the few ports of an AppleTV.

And it would increase complexity for testing and logistics to have yet another variant, next to the existing chassis for M1Pro/Max (single) and a newly developed, maybe Cube-inspired case about the size of two or three minis stacked for the hypothetic Duo/Quad flavours. That would be a slippery slope, considering the reasons for Apple's near-bankruptcy back in the days before Jobs returned.

I'd prefer them to make better use of the space in the existing housing by e.g. adding 1-2 NVMe slots and perhaps even additional Ram slots, which may be slower than the on-chip solution they have right now, but could be populated by the users themselves. System could then prioritize internal Ram, but would have additional resources when required.

And perhaps make the internals better accessible by having all components on a tray that could be simply slid out. Kind of a modern-day reincarnation of the the Cube's core-on-a-handle approach. DISCLAIMER: Without Jobs at the helm, I think it's highly unlikely for Apple to be brave enough to develop unusual solutions like this.
Having an internal PSU was one of the benefits of the all-in-one iMac, but that has been dropped with the M1 version unfortunately. I expect the same to happen with the mini, although I don't want it.

I'd love additional NVMe slots in a mini, and there is space for it if the same size chassis remains, but I doubt it will happen.
 
agreed. mini won't be updated until M2 comes out
If Apple did not plan to release M1 Pro/Max powered Mac mini desktops, then the 2018 Intel Mac mini would not still be available on the Apple website...
Yeah, I think the M1 Pro/Max Mac mini will come out before the M2 Mac mini.

BTW, dylandkt's twitter account has been deleted. This gives his account even more credence IMO. He was one of the leakers claiming an M1 Pro/Max Mac mini in the spring.
 
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Yeah, I think the M1 Pro/Max Mac mini will come out before the M2 Mac mini.

BTW, dylandkt's twitter account has been deleted. This gives his account even more credence IMO. He was one of the leakers claiming an M1 Pro/Max Mac mini in the spring.

I am totally expecting a M1 Pro/Max powered Mac mini desktop come this Spring; I would expect the same chassis with a new plexi top to allow better WiFi/BT connectivity, and as robust an active cooling system as the chassis interior will allow; I also hope Apple keeps the internal PSU, as there is no need to go to an external unit...
 
I am totally expecting a M1 Pro/Max powered Mac mini desktop come this Spring; I would expect the same chassis with a new plexi top to allow better WiFi/BT connectivity, and as robust an active cooling system as the chassis interior will allow; I also hope Apple keeps the internal PSU, as there is no need to go to an external unit...
Yeah, I think the M1 Pro/Max Mac mini will come out before the M2 Mac mini.

BTW, dylandkt's twitter account has been deleted. This gives his account even more credence IMO. He was one of the leakers claiming an M1 Pro/Max Mac mini in the spring.
agreed. mini won't be updated until M2 comes out
There have been rumors from DylandDKT, Prosser, and Gurman about an M1 Pro/Max Mac mini. I’m fully expecting one to come this spring. To @JEuro2285 The M1/M2 is a totally different SKU and not what we are discussing.

The high-end mini, iMac and Mac Pro are the only things left at this point to transition over to Apple Silicon and I’m betting we get all three either at, or before WWDC. I do think the Mac Pro may not actually ship until later, but they’ll do a major announcement at WWDC and also say “this completes the two-year transition we promised you”.
 
I really hope they won’t wait until WWDC to release new minis (and iMacs). MacPro otoh would fit the settings at WWDC better than the spring event imho.
 
Considering a lot of Macs are on very long delivery dates (upwards of 8 weeks) at this stage anything could happen.
It's a good excuse for Apple to delay.
 
I can’t see them letting a faster Mac Mini with the upgraded chip steal the thunder from the new iMac using the same chip by presenting them on the same day.
My bet: The new Mac Mini is certainly coming — but quite a while after the iMac AND Mac Pro.
So my guess: definitely no upgraded Mini this spring. The timing just doesn’t seem right at all.
 
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IMO it would be bad, from a marketing standpoint, to release m2 and m1pro/max together.
If M2 goes in the fall, the M1 pro/max has to be announced before, so this spring.

So my bet is Mac Mini M1 Pro this April, 60 days from now.
 
I can’t see them letting a faster Mac Mini with the upgraded chip steal the thunder from the new iMac using the same chip by presenting them on the same day.

November 2020, Apple silicon (M1 SoC) debuts in the following products:
  • 13" MacBook Pro
  • 13" MacBook Air
  • Mac mini
Zero thunders stolen...

My bet: The new Mac Mini is certainly coming — but quite a while after the iMac AND Mac Pro.
So my guess: definitely no upgraded Mini this spring. The timing just doesn’t seem right at all.

Apple is not going to sit on M1 Pro/Max powered Mac mini desktops, they will be announced alongside the 27" iMac Pro (possibly with the new 24"/4.5K & 27"/5K Apple-branded displays); the all-new Mac Pro Cube will be one of the final products to transition to Apple silicon, introduction at WWDC 2022, shipping November 2022 (two years after the first Apple silicon product release), transition complete...!

WWDC 2022 might also see a 32"/6K iMac Pro, sporting the same SoCs (maybe dual M1 Max/Jade2C, maybe dual M1 Ultra) as the ASi Mac Pro Cube; and I would expect the new lower-priced (and lower specs) 32"/6K Apple-branded display there as well...

Again, zero thunders stolen...

EDIT: Due to the most recent tweet from Ross Young, it seems the debut of a 27" iMac Pro & assorted Apple-branded displays may be later in the year; which would leave a definite gap for the M1 Pro/Max powered Mac mini to fill...

Apple wants to release products at regular intervals throughout the year, that way they can always stay in the tech news spotlight; so a Spring Event featuring the M1 Pro/Max Mac mini seems a no-brainer...?
 
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I can’t see them letting a faster Mac Mini with the upgraded chip steal the thunder from the new iMac using the same chip by presenting them on the same day.
My bet: The new Mac Mini is certainly coming — but quite a while after the iMac AND Mac Pro.
So my guess: definitely no upgraded Mini this spring. The timing just doesn’t seem right at all.
The upper Mini SKU might be replaced by a low end Mac Pro SKU - announced at WWDC.

Even if it was a true upper Mini SKU it could just come with CPUs we've already seen before - the M1 Pro and M1 Max. That would allow it to have a Spring release while the 27" iMac remains quietly Intel until it's ready for release later this year.
 
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The upper Mini SKU might be replaced by a low end Mac Pro SKU - announced at WWDC.

So a Mac mini that starts at $1100 is going to be replaced by something that will probably start at three or four grand...?!?

Even if it was a true upper Mini SKU it could just come with CPUs we've already seen before - the M1 Pro and M1 Max. That would allow it to have a Spring release while the 27" iMac remains quietly Intel until it's ready for release later this year.

M1 Pro/Max powered Mac mini desktops is what most everyone expects as a replacement for the 2018 Intel Mac mini, nothing new here...
 
An M1 Pro/Max is definately on the cards in my view, only to get rid of the last remaining Intel device in that line. And they don't need to redesign or change anything to make it work so no-brainer really.
 
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An M1 Pro/Max is definately on the cards in my view, only to get rid of the last remaining Intel device in that line. And they don't need to redesign or change anything to make it work so no-brainer really.
Apart from the well known wifi/bluetooth issues (and occasionally HDMI issues).

So a Mac mini that starts at $1100 is going to be replaced by something that will probably start at three or four grand...?!?
Not if said Mac Pro comes with M1 Pro / Max. They don't all have to be M1 Pro Max Quads.
 
An M1 Pro/Max is definately on the cards in my view, only to get rid of the last remaining Intel device in that line. And they don't need to redesign or change anything to make it work so no-brainer really.
Apart from the well known wifi/bluetooth issues (and occasionally HDMI issues).

Not if said Mac Pro comes with M1 Pro / Max. They don't all have to be M1 Pro Max Quads.

I would think a Mac Pro (Cube) powered by a single M1 Pro SoC would cost more than a similar Mac mini...

I would also think that the ASi Mac Pro (Cube) would have dual M1 Max SoCs as standard starting configuration...?

Yeah, well. Been that for years, don't assume that will change with a design update.

Moving the WiFi/BT antennas and making the top a plexi piece should sort that...?

As to HDMI, hopefully Apple will go to HDMI 2.1 since they do not need to also drive an "internal" display...?
 
Moving the WiFi/BT antennas and making the top a plexi piece should sort that...?

Maybe, but then Apple being Apple can throw out a new Mac Mini with an M1 Pro/Max and it will sell either way. They are not exactly worrying about the BT issues on the MM are they given how long-running the issue is.

Also, there appears (anecdotally) to be fewer people with the issue than without.
 
Maybe, but then Apple being Apple can throw out a new Mac Mini with an M1 Pro/Max and it will sell either way. They are not exactly worrying about the BT issues on the MM are they given how long-running the issue is.

I would be fine with that, seeing as how I do not use BT devices & I prefer a hard wire Ethernet connection to my router... ;^p
 
I use Ethernet as well but also BT for the keyboard and mouse. To be fair I have not had any BT issues at all on the M1 and I have had it since launch. Had intermittent issues with the 2018 model, never could figure it out. Yet I passed it to a family member and in over a year they have not had a single issue.
 
Not if said Mac Pro comes with M1 Pro / Max. They don't all have to be M1 Pro Max Quads.
The upper Mini SKU might be replaced by a low end Mac Pro SKU - announced at WWDC.

Even if it was a true upper Mini SKU it could just come with CPUs we've already seen before - the M1 Pro and M1 Max. That would allow it to have a Spring release while the 27" iMac remains quietly Intel until it's ready for release later this year.
Part of the purpose of the mini is that it is… mini. So having a high-end mini is different than having a low-end Mac Pro. I personally don’t care as much about the size, but I just don’t see them selling an M1 Pro, a chip that’s also in a laptop, also in a Mac Pro because the point of the Mac Pro is that it is Apple’s most-powerful Mac and having a “laptop” chip doesn’t fit with this vision (I get it’s not a laptop chip, but that’s how many consumers will view it).
I can’t see them letting a faster Mac Mini with the upgraded chip steal the thunder from the new iMac using the same chip by presenting them on the same day.
My bet: The new Mac Mini is certainly coming — but quite a while after the iMac AND Mac Pro.
So my guess: definitely no upgraded Mini this spring. The timing just doesn’t seem right at all.
The Mac mini is not competing with either the iMac or the Mac Pro. They are for different needs and uses. Also if Apple does announce a line of consumer displays (as was rumored last year) the consumer actually pays more for a mini+apple display than the iMac.

There is no reason why they would release a Mac mini AFTER the Mac Pro. Almost everyone is in agreement that the Mac Pro is going to be the final Mac to transition to apple silicon.
 
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Not allot of folks will be able to afford the new Mac Pro. Reason why they go mini or iMac. After my 2008 Mac Pro, I quite buying Mac pros due to their costs. Built a similar pc for 1/3 the cost. The mini serves its purpose. Lite stuff on Apple platform. No way would I spend money on the new Mac Pro. Not worth it.
 
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Not allot of folks will be able to afford the new Mac Pro. Reason why they go mini or iMac. After my 2008 Mac Pro, I quite buying Mac pros due to their costs. Built a similar pc for 1/3 the cost. The mini serves its purpose. Lite stuff on Apple platform. No way would I spend money on the new Mac Pro. Not worth it.

I plan to get an ASi Mac mini (Pro) with the specs in my sig, but I might eventually be enticed by a future generation of a Mac Pro (Cube) at some point...?
 
If the iMac Pro would be $1000 more expensive than their mac mini counterpart, it actually makes a lot of sense to go with the iMac. Less clutter with cables, better esthetics, and a gorgeous screen. You wouldn't get that screen quality for 1k$ and having an all-in-one device is tempting. The only downside is no upgrade possibility, yet having m1max and 64GB of RAM should serve you well for the next 7 years.
 
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