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Coil whine has been noted as a mac studio issue but don’t forget the mini has well documented WiFi and Bluetooth radio issues too.

The pricing is set such that the mac studio looks an attractive upgrade for the people who can afford it.
Wifi is working « fine » on my mac mini m1. A little bit less than my imac but it works 😉
I have no more bluetooth problems (i.e mouse cursor stuttering/jumping) since I unplugged one usb-a (the lefter one)
I prefer dealing with wifi and bluetooth than with a noisy mac studio as the computer is in ly living room.
 
Seems to me that people have complained about "coil whine" on almost all recent Macs. Here's a long thread about the 2018 Mini. That's one advantage of getting old, the tinnitus drowns it all out. 🤣

The other 'issue' I read more about at launch was the fan staying switched on at a pretty high RPM, even when the Studio was idling. I.e. it didn't ramp down to a steady state like previous Macs have under light usage. I don't know if it has been tweaked in a recent update, however.
 
yep, and as there was no M1 pro mini, I don't believe there will be an M2 pro mini.
I don't understand why the apple desktop range jump from M1 computer to M1 max computer. No iMac or mini with a pro chip.
It is odd though if the rumours are true and there was an M1 Pro mini prototype made and there are reports of an M2 Pro mini. Time will tell.
 
The other 'issue' I read more about at launch was the fan staying switched on at a pretty high RPM, even when the Studio was idling. I.e. it didn't ramp down to a steady state like previous Macs have under light usage. I don't know if it has been tweaked in a recent update, however.
It does seem that if Bluetooth and WiFi aren’t as relevant to buyers but quiet performance is, my calculation is that the M2, which is reasonably close in performance to the binned M1 Pro but for a cheaper price, would do well in the mini case.

Obviously, the downsides - relative lack of ports and only 2 monitors limit - May be not be a limitation for too many mini customers.
 
It is odd though if the rumours are true and there was an M1 Pro mini prototype made and there are reports of an M2 Pro mini. Time will tell.
Apple would have made prototypes for all circumstances, technically there May be been no issues but ultimately decisions are made at a higher level.
 
It does seem that if Bluetooth and WiFi aren’t as relevant to buyers but quiet performance is, my calculation is that the M2, which is reasonably close in performance to the binned M1 Pro but for a cheaper price, would do well in the mini case.

Obviously, the downsides - relative lack of ports and only 2 monitors limit - May be not be a limitation for too many mini customers.
Yes, as previously discussed, there are two big factors IMO that make M2 significantly better than M1 and very close to the binned M1 Pro, for those who need them:

1. 24 GB RAM option. It's not 32 GB, but for many people in this target demographic, 24 GB RAM may actually be an advantage. It's more than sufficient RAM for much of this group, but costs significantly less than 32 GB RAM.

2. Hardware ProRes support.

Apple would have made prototypes for all circumstances, technically there May be been no issues but ultimately decisions are made at a higher level.
Yup. We've seen a prototype cellular MacBook Pro that actually made it into the wild after all.
 
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Yes, as previously discussed, there are two big factors IMO that make M2 significantly better than M1 and very close to the binned M1 Pro, for those who need them:

1. 24 GB RAM option. It's not 32 GB, but for many people in this target demographic, 24 GB RAM may actually be an advantage. It's more than sufficient RAM for much of this group, but costs significantly less than 32 GB RAM.

2. Hardware ProRes support.


Yup. We've seen a prototype cellular MacBook Pro that actually made it into the wild after all.
The advanced hardware encoder/decoder is an often overlooked part of the M2.

24gb ram is also a big selling point.

Video editing ought to be a popular niche for m2
 
"The upcoming ‌Mac mini‌, despite rumors, will feature no redesign and only a performance boost, according to reliable Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, which says it will launch in 2023. As a result, we're unlikely to see any news related to the ‌Mac mini‌ or any other Mac during the event tomorrow, which is expected to be iPhone, Apple Watch, and AirPods focused."

 
"The upcoming ‌Mac mini‌, despite rumors, will feature no redesign and only a performance boost, according to reliable Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, which says it will launch in 2023. As a result, we're unlikely to see any news related to the ‌Mac mini‌ or any other Mac during the event tomorrow, which is expected to be iPhone, Apple Watch, and AirPods focused."

That's not a new rumour, just a rehash of previous rumours in preparation for the event tomorrow.

In fact, the statement refers to an MC Kuo rumour from 6 months ago.


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Oh, I see that may be a response to @grandoflex. Carry on.
 
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I'm still hopeful some sort of mini is announced at a potential October event. I will laugh and cry (mostly cry) if we have to wait until Q1/Q2 2023 for just an M2 mini and no M2 Pro version.
 
I will just smile if my 2018 Mini is still a current model when 2023 arrives. 😄
I'm typing here on my 2014 Mac mini, running Monterey. That was US$145 well spent. :) (After my 2007 Mac Pro started acting funky in fall 2021.)

I hope my elementary school aged kid will take this over when I upgrade to an Apple Silicon Mac mini, as I have an extra 23" Cinema HD Display that is a perfect match for it. However, I suspect he'll want my 2017 MacBook 12" instead, esp. since his big sister got a 13" 2015 MacBook Pro. Hmm...
 
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If an M2 Mac mini drops tomorrow, I expect it to be via Press Release after the event.
Yes, that could be true, but in this case I suspect Ming-Chi Kuo might be correct and we don't get anything until 2023.

However, if Apple does silently update the Mac mini this week, I don't know what the heck I'll do. Do I buy right away? Or do I futilely wait for an M2 Pro Mac mini that will never see the light of day?
 
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Yes, that could be true, but in this case I suspect Ming-Chi Kuo might be correct and we don't get anything until 2023.

However, if Apple does silently update the Mac mini this week, I don't know what the heck I'll do. Do I buy right away? Or do I futilely wait for an M2 Pro Mac mini that will never see the light of day?
Neither Aristotle, Plato nor Alan Watts know the answer to such a deep and timeless question.
 
Yes, that could be true, but in this case I suspect Ming-Chi Kuo might be correct and we don't get anything until 2023.

However, if Apple does silently update the Mac mini this week, I don't know what the heck I'll do. Do I buy right away? Or do I futilely wait for an M2 Pro Mac mini that will never see the light of day?
If you need a new Mac Mini now, I suggest you buy one now. If not, I suggest you wait. Whatever you do, the new Mac Mini is almost certainly coming..... eternally for the time being.

Disclosure: I bought my third new Mac Mini (M1, 8GB RAM, 1TB SSD) about six weeks ago. It has replaced my early 2009 Mini, which replaced my 2005 original. I guess my next new Mac Mini will be coming about 2030 or so.
 
It'll mean another year of macOS support which is a plus.
Wouldn't count on that unless you have it in writing from Tim Cook.

What's the current ethos at Apple? They'll sell you a brand new Apple Watch S3 right now, which is a product that's getting zero more OS updates!
 
Wouldn't count on that unless you have it in writing from Tim Cook.

This is what we have "in writing":

"Owners of iPhone, iPad, iPod, Mac, or Apple TV products may obtain service and parts from Apple service providers, including Apple Retail Stores and Independent Repair Providers, for a minimum of 5 years from when Apple last distributed the product for sale."

Apple is still selling the 2018 Mini, so the 5-year "countdown" has not yet begun. Even if they discontinue it today, it should be supported until at least September 2027. But if it continues to be sold until 2023, then it should be supported until 2028.

 
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This is what we have "in writing":

"Owners of iPhone, iPad, iPod, Mac, or Apple TV products may obtain service and parts from Apple service providers, including Apple Retail Stores and Independent Repair Providers, for a minimum of 5 years from when Apple last distributed the product for sale."

Apple is still selling the 2018 Mini, so the 5-year "countdown" has not yet begun. Even if they discontinue it today, it should be supported until at least September 2027. But if it continues to be sold until 2023, then it should be supported until 2028.

Come on dude, that is about spare parts, you already know this: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ini-last.2349170/?post=31211428#post-31211428

People on this site seem to be eternally confused about this :oops:
 
Yes, it is about hardware support. To me, that is more important than what version of MacOS I can run, I'm always several versions behind anyway (currently on Catalina). To me, it seems illogical that Apple would support hardware that can no longer run a supported version of MacOS. Are there examples of them doing that?

Look at the 2012 Mini, for example, Apple stopped selling it in 2014. The highest version of MacOS that it can run is Catalina which will (presumably) no longer receive security updates by the end of 2022. That is 8 years of software support after it was discontinued.

Above I suggested that if the 2018 Mini remains on the market until 2023, it should be supported until 2028. That would only be five years after discontinuing.

However, if you require a machine that runs the newest version of MacOS, that is something different. Sorry, I don't know anything about the Apple Watch, so I have no idea what kind of precedent that might set for the Mac Mini.
 
The point I'm making about Macs is simply that Apple deliberately don't commit to anything in regards to how many macOS releases you get. The consequence being that each time a new macOS release is announced, they can drop whichever Macs they feel like (regardless of years on the market, individual purchase dates, etc).

They also deliberately don't commit to how long previous macOS releases get security fixes, etc: https://eclecticlight.co/2021/09/22/how-long-does-apple-support-macos/
 
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