Yes, but the Mac Studio is CA$2499. Is that psychologically that much better than $2599? It's not like we're talking about $2999 vs. $3099 (unless you upgrade to 64 GB RAM).
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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming
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It absolutely is! The pricing must not convince everybody, just enough people to make it worthwhile. If only a fraction is tricked into believing, they paid a price closer to $2000 than to almost $3000, you can't afford to not do it.
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Wow, I always thought we had the short end of the stick but turns out Macs are cheaper in Canada!One thing I've been thinking about is that compared to the US, there is a small compression of the price range here in Canada.
US pricing
$699 - M1 Mac mini 8/256
$899 - M1 Mac mini 16/256
$899 - M1 Mac mini 8/512
$1099 - M1 Mac mini 16/512
$1099 - Core i5 Mac mini 8/512
$1299 - Core i5 Mac mini 16/512
$1299 - Core i7 Mac mini 8/512
$1499 - Core i7 Mac mini 16/512
$1999 - M1 Max Mac Studio 32/512
Canadian pricing
$899 (US$655) - M1 Mac mini 8/256
$1149 (US$837) - M1 Mac mini 16/256
$1149 (US$837) - M1 Mac mini 8/512
$1399 (US$1019) - M1 Mac mini 16/512
$1399 (US$1019) - Core i5 Mac mini 8/512
$1649 (US$1201) - Core i5 Mac mini 16/512
$1659 (US$1209) - Core i7 Mac mini 8/512
$1909 (US$1391) - Core i7 Mac mini 16/512
$2499 (US$1821) - M1 Max Mac Studio 32/512
So at the low end of the spectrum, the M1 Mac mini 8/256 is 6% cheaper in Canada than in the US.
However, at the high end of the spectrum, the M1 Max Mac Studio is 9% cheaper in Canada than in the US.
I'm not sure why they priced it this way, but I've noticed this in the past with other products too. At the low end you pay the same or more in Canada, but at the high end it's sometimes cheaper in Canada, or else there's less of a price premium in Canada vs. the low end. Not sure but maybe it's because the average income per capita in Canada is lower than in the US.
I'll admit that the difference between 6% and 9% isn't huge, but once you start including a 24 GB option for the M2 Mac mini, there is much less room to manoeuvre below the price of the Mac Studio, so from a marketing point of view, it makes sense to just delete the "high end" tier of the Mac mini altogether and replace it with nothing (as others have suggested in the past in this thread). Basically, that "high end" gets replaced with the 24 GB option. Or, as you suggest, they could have 8 GPU core vs. 10 GPU core models, but somehow I don't think they're going to that.
BTW, with these cheaper prices in Canada, I could see them raising prices of course, but I still think they still may maintain that small price range compression vs. the US pricing.
Anyhow, I'm happy I paid CA$1099 for that used M1 Mac mini 16/1TB I'm typing on right now. That's just a shade over US$800.16 GB appears to be sufficient for my needs for now, so unless something surprising comes with the M2 Mac mini, I'm staying put with the M1 for the foreseeable future.
It's the magical $1,999 in the US and then they do currency conversions for the rest of the world.
Correct, I have the same feeling. The Intel Mac mini will simply be removed from the Apple store in about 2 or 3 Months from now and the M1 will be replaced by M2 (the same as happened with Macbook Air).
Latest from Gurman's Power On newsletter:
'....the company continues to actively test an all-new Mac Pro and an M2 Pro-based Mac mini to replace the remaining Intel models.'
'The aforementioned Mac mini update will come in regular M2 and M2 Pro variations, while new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros are arriving early next year with M2 Pro and M2 Max options.'
'....the company continues to actively test an all-new Mac Pro and an M2 Pro-based Mac mini to replace the remaining Intel models.'
'The aforementioned Mac mini update will come in regular M2 and M2 Pro variations, while new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros are arriving early next year with M2 Pro and M2 Max options.'
To clarify further some of my thinking, if Apple completely replace the M1 range with M2 in the mini then the 10 core GPU variant is the non binned equivalent of the 8 core M1.
Remember that the binned 7 core GPU M1 appears in the base iMac 24 and MacBook Air M1.
What if the M2 mini uses the binned M2 which appears in the M2 MacBook air? It could open up scope for Apple to decrease the US dollar start price of the M2 mini while offering the chance of a genuine third tier to offer a full fat 10 core option.
So you have:
$599 8 core 8/256
$799 8 core 8/512
$1099 10 core 16/512
This then has the effect of allowing Apple to avoid raising the start price of the mini around the world and the lower tier SKUs would have 10 core GPU as a BTO option.
256GB should not be an option in 202x..
Gurman says Apple continues to actively test an all-new Mac Pro and an M2 Pro-based Mac mini to replace the remaining Intel models.
I think
I am with the others, that the standard format Mac mini gets the M2 variants, that you can find in MacBook Air and 13 Pro. The same is true for the 24" iMac.
Will there be a bigger iMac? Maybe, but only Apple knows. And if there ever will be a bigger iMac, that will probably get the Pro series of the Apple silicon M SoC. Because for the Max Ms you need adequate cooling.
Yeah, I will believe it, when I see it.
I am with the others, that the standard format Mac mini gets the M2 variants, that you can find in MacBook Air and 13 Pro. The same is true for the 24" iMac.
Will there be a bigger iMac? Maybe, but only Apple knows. And if there ever will be a bigger iMac, that will probably get the Pro series of the Apple silicon M SoC. Because for the Max Ms you need adequate cooling.
Agree. Apple seems to have been testing MX Pro variant minis for ages..... In my head, I have settled on an M2 mini.
Would Apple invest this much time and money into a product they have no intention of eventually releasing ?
I was hoping for an MxPro Mac Mini, though if that should not materialize what would be my best bet ? I
was considering a Macbook Pro with a MxPro/Max chip connected to an external monitor (desktop style) for my
Music workstation, as I've seen this set-up on UTube and others. Would this be equivalent to a MxPro Mac Mini or Mac
Studio w/ Mx Pro/Max SOC ? I would think a laptop would be less powerful than a desktop, though I've heard not
with the Mx chips. Is this true ?
New to Apple btw, still on my I7 and looking to switch over to Mx.
I have an M1 Pro MacBook Pro 32/1 and performance is similar to my base Studio. They both feel about the same.
If you need more than a mini, especially in terms of external displays, I'd recommend the Studio. I have 3-4 external monitors and attach a lot of things via USB-A and USB-C and the Studio is really nice for that. I plug in 4 port hubs into the Studio.
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One of the things to consider is that depending on a persons data plan and carrier. I can take my phone and create a Hotspot and connect my iPad or Mac to it if my Xfinity connection goes out and it has happened on a few occasions, although rare. So if I had a laptop with me, I could do the same if I was away from home. Perhaps Apple realizes this?Photos of a Prototype MacBook Pro with Integrated 3G Cellular Modem
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Thanks Pshufd. It seems to come down to connectivity vs mobility. Even though it would be nice to have a mobile music workstation as far as my needs connectivity would be more important. I'm not really up to speed yet on Apple products but I understand the Studio has an abundance of connectivity which is essential for a DAW.
If the MxPro Mac Mini doesn't materialize - which apparently most here don't believe will happen - I'll have to go with a Studio. I could also go with a Mx Mini though I've heard varying views as to whether it could handle that type of work load.
At this time I'm not able to find the original the new Mac Mini is coming thread, thus I'm starting a new one.
* this is my speculation only
Why you ask? I've checked with several retailers and they are all sold out.
(let's see if I'm right about this one)
* this is my speculation only
Why you ask? I've checked with several retailers and they are all sold out.
(let's see if I'm right about this one)
Did you mean the following thread?
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/the-new-mac-mini-is-almost-certainly-coming.1681773/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/the-new-mac-mini-is-almost-certainly-coming.1681773/
Moderator Note: I have merged this new thread into the existing mega-thread.
do not buy mac mini
i repeat, do not buy mac mini
buy macbook instead to have the battery which will allow you to work without electricity for some time
i repeat, do not buy mac mini
buy macbook instead to have the battery which will allow you to work without electricity for some time
The Studio is too much for me, the 16Gb Mini is not enough. A 32Gb Mini Pro would be an insta buy for me. A 24Gb M2 is neither here nor there for me either. Would be a stop gap solution for me, there's a 99% chance that I'll suffer along with my 16Gb if they release an M2 24Gb Mini.
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If the numbers in the 9to5mac article are correct, maybe its not suprising the Mac Mini hasn't had as much attention as we'd like.
