I hope they bring the same old design as 2019 MBP, the flat edged ones, and an optional TouchBar Configuration, and even if the Laptop turns thicker, not a Problem
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The New MacBook Pro is a Marvel.
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Coming from a MacBook Pro 15 2011 to MacBook Pro 14 2021. Best upgrade ever.
Got a 16" MacBook Pro from work. Expected to hate the design, but instead fell in love with it. I just wished it was smaller because I despise lugging around large, heavy notebooks, so I traded my personal MacBook Air in for a 14" MacBook Pro. I couldn't be happier with either of these machines unless they had FaceID. Even with my usual Incase shell on each one, they feel slimmer and sleeker than they look, and everything about using either of them feels, looks, and sounds premium.
I purchased a base model Mac Studio on release weekend and have the same feelings. The effortlessness with which it handles my workflow is actually somewhat depressing to me! I need to step it up and demand more.
I did the same trade, I’m really pleased with the 14”. Still use an M1 Air for work, amazing computer that runs circles around the outgoing 2017 15” MBP. Figurative… ?
What does "mop the floor" mean? My 16" does zero housework, but it does compute pretty well.
I agree with the OP. This is by far the best laptop I've owned and I started using portable computers with first Compaq models. Just incredible engineering.
Really happy with my silver 16.2" with 1TB storage and 16GB RAM. Got it on eBay 'open box' for $2,299 (about $2,470 total after tax) from a big seller that handles customer returns for major retailers. Whoever bought it originally must have decided they didn't like the color or something and sent it right back, because it's indistinguishable from new. Would have been almost $3,000 after tax from Apple. o_o
So give it a few weeks, then go back and pickup your 2019 so you can appreciate what a brick the new 16MBP is. Yes, battery is way better but it's brick - no way to sugarcoat this fact! I go back and forth and can tell you, that 2019 sure feels light in comparison - almost sexy. I got the new 16 MBP M1 when they came out, and performance wise, it's been mostly good, except for those memory leaks and apps freezing, forcing me to reboot. I too was joyous in the first days, but give it some time.
If one moves around a lot then definitely the 14' makes a lot more sense. I've had 13' sized MacBooks for the last 5 years. This is my first 16'. And I walked 30 mins with it Sunday for the first time since I bought it. Yes, it barely fits in my backpack and I could feel the difference in weight. That said, I still love this cool laptop, long battery life, strong CPUs, and ... amazing screen. I've shifted all my reading to it. And I still have a 13' work MBP so I can see the difference - yes there's a big size/weight difference.So give it a few weeks, then go back and pickup your 2019 so you can appreciate what a brick the new 16MBP is. Yes, battery is way better but it's brick - no way to sugarcoat this fact! I go back and forth and can tell you, that 2019 sure feels light in comparison - almost sexy. I got the new 16 MBP M1 when they came out, and performance wise, it's been mostly good, except for those memory leaks and apps freezing, forcing me to reboot. I too was joyous in the first days, but give it some time.
- I personally think that the design looks meh, especially compared to my MBP 2018
- The notch was a terrible decision, especially considering how poorly it was received when it first appeared on the iPhone. I honestly would not have mind if the top bezel had been wider to accommodate the camera. The iPad Pro did a great job in that regards
- No Face ID is also a bummer. Again, iPad Pro did a great job in that regards (Face ID + no notch)
Other than that, solid computer, not gonna lie.
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I would not qualify the iPad Pro as bezel-less, it has pretty thick bezels, but we don't see it that much because they are even. Not a fan of the notch either, but bezels on the MBP are definitely slimmer than the ones on the iPP (which is logic because the iPad is a touch device and needs to be comfortably held given its size). I have the M1 Pro MBP and I just don't notice the notch except if I'm looking for it, and I like the extra space used for the menu bar.
I agree with you on the design. I don't mind the extra HDMI and SD card slot because there are people who are still using them, but I think the Touch Bar MBP, with all its flaws, had hands down the best design. There are some things I like in the 2021 MBP, like the all black keyboard that grew on me in the past months.
As you said, still an amazing computer.
Made a mistake, I wanted to write "iPad Pro did a great job in that regards (Face ID + no notch)"
I've edited.
The design has grown on me in that it's more pleasant to carry around and is definitely more durable than in years past. (I never loved the tapered design of the MacBook Air in any of its forms.) No FaceID is a bummer for sure, and I hope they can sort that out in future iterations. I've read the screen is too thin for the housing, but I'm not sure if that's accurate or not.
I do have a soft spot for the overall look though. Kind of a throwback to the old school hardware.
I finally bought a MBP last week after waiting for the problematic 2016 era machines to finally be history. I went with a silver 16 inch Max 64/4TB. I love everything about this new machine including the form factor. I actually like the fact that it's thicker and heavier.
I don't mean to jump on the love fest, but DAAAMN! My 16" M1 Max is absolutely the best machine I've ever used. The other day I encoded a one hour and twenty minute ProRes to H264 in..... wait for it.... 7 MINUTES!!!!one!!! I nearly passed out. And it almost never goes over 90 degrees Fahrenheit. It almost defies the laws of physics with how cool it stays. And I couldn't agree more about the screen and the speakers. The whole package is simply amazing.
Well said! Seriously, this machine is the MBP I've been waiting for. Ticks all the boxes in my book.
I’m positively impressed with the spatial audio capability of the speakers in my 16”. I have the damn thing on my lap and all of a sudden I hear an instrument or voice to my side, magic. They sound pretty beefy, too, for a laptop, pretty much negating the need for a bluetooth speaker.
Yep, these laptops are world class. I was never interested in the M1 MBA or M1 MBP as they are basically iPad chips in a laptop.
The M1 Pro and M1 Max are the real laptop chips that Apple made. And the promotion and mini-LED is excellent.
I will keep this 16” M1 Max MBP for 5 years most likely as it will only be minor spec bumps from now on.
The M1 Pro and M1 Max are the real laptop chips that Apple made. And the promotion and mini-LED is excellent.
I will keep this 16” M1 Max MBP for 5 years most likely as it will only be minor spec bumps from now on.
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I'll jump BACK on the love fest for a minute. As it says in my signature, I'm lucky to have both models of the new MacBook Pro to play with: base model 14" for personal and base model 16" for work. I try to keep my activities on the two machines separated, as the work machine technically doesn't belong to me (even though I'm allowed to use it for personal use as well.)
Long story short: the 16" is big and heavy and bulky and not something I would spend my OWN money on, but it is 100% a no-compromises experience. No compromises in screen size, battery life, capability (for what I do), build quality, or anything else. So if I have to do an intense work project, I have no qualms about taking the 16" MBP with me, even without a charger.
The only compromise I feel on the 14" model is the screen size, but it's so much nicer and larger than my 13" MBA that I don't even care. The battery life is obviously going to be less hours per charge as well, but that's also not a deal breaker, since I'm not working 18 hours a day anyway. Both are basically "all day battery life".
As someone else mentioned, Macs don't get redesigned super often, so I can see this 14" Pro being my workhorse for the next several years.
Long story short: the 16" is big and heavy and bulky and not something I would spend my OWN money on, but it is 100% a no-compromises experience. No compromises in screen size, battery life, capability (for what I do), build quality, or anything else. So if I have to do an intense work project, I have no qualms about taking the 16" MBP with me, even without a charger.
The only compromise I feel on the 14" model is the screen size, but it's so much nicer and larger than my 13" MBA that I don't even care. The battery life is obviously going to be less hours per charge as well, but that's also not a deal breaker, since I'm not working 18 hours a day anyway. Both are basically "all day battery life".
As someone else mentioned, Macs don't get redesigned super often, so I can see this 14" Pro being my workhorse for the next several years.
I was watching a run-of-the-mill YouTube video yesterday on the 16" Pro and was absolutely taken aback by how much bass is able to come out of those little speaker grills. What Apple has been doing with audio for the last several years with iPhone, iPad, and Mac is absolutely underrated in the media. They have basically miniaturized those compact shelf speaker systems and built them into a Mac.
I am always amazed by how many specialized products have been disrupted by Apple software and hardware.
My suggestion is that unless you have intel only apps that don't work with Rosetta, or apps that need previous macOS, get rid of any intel machine you have whilst the prices are good and get on board the M1/Pro/Max/ultra train.
These machines are so much snappier, quieter, cooler, etc. than anything apple has made in a portable for over a decade, probably ever.
I don't know about bookshelf speakers, there's still an advantage to physical size, the ability to move air around. But this MBP certainly takes the fight to "computer" or "desktop" speakers, those are redundant now.
But the Dolby Atmos thing...man, it trips me out. Magic.