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wheelhot

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Unlikely as if there's one thing that iOS will not be able to do is programming, yeah you probably can do some of your code in iOS (in whatever version it might be) but I'm certain they'll be limitations which is too big for programmers. The iOS is designed for the end-users in mind, be it general consumers or professionals BUT when it comes to professionals, it'll be niche as each professional (depending on their job) will only need a subset of tools, for example: if I work as a product conceptual designer, UMake app is probably enough as I won't be doing the detail drawings, only the initial conceptualisation. Then that model will be passed to a more tech-savvy designer who will have a proper work machine to do his work.

Lets go for photography, with the power of iPad Pro and other IOT devices coming up like Gnarbox, I can totally see doing most of my photo stuffs without need a laptop. I'll probably only need to use my computer for print proofing or other stuffs, but for most usage the iPad will be enough (sorting, tagging, 80% editing and etc).

So to sum it up, nope, I don't see the MBP going out anytime soon and even if it's, probably only the cheapest model in favour of iPad Pro (when it's ready that's, not the current iteration)
 
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2ms

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Does anyone have info on when Thunderbolt 3 is going to become available?

I have an old Retina MBP that I am interested in replacing, but any machine that I can't get Nvidia Cuda cores with is a no go. My living, unfortunately, depends upon it. Thunderbolt 3 will allow me to connect to external GTX card or Tesla.

Anyone have the latest on the status of Thunderbolt 3?
 

AirdanMR

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Does anyone have info on when Thunderbolt 3 is going to become available?

I have an old Retina MBP that I am interested in replacing, but any machine that I can't get Nvidia Cuda cores with is a no go. My living, unfortunately, depends upon it. Thunderbolt 3 will allow me to connect to external GTX card or Tesla.

Anyone have the latest on the status of Thunderbolt 3?

It's already available. For example on Dell XPS 13 / 15. I hope it comes to the rMBP with the next skylake version, if not I'm not buying it.
 

Matt Leaf

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15" macbook pro 2016 prediction: usb - c both sides, two thunderbolt 3 ports, 1 headphones jack. sd card dropped. hdmi dropped. butterfly keyboard, 4k screen. thin, tapered design, skyline processors, 32 gb ram, weight drop of about .5 kg's. june.
 

MBX

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@Matt Leaf: That sounds about right. And exactly what I'm looking for. Not sure if 32GB is realistic yet but why not :) Could be an amazing portable machine.
 

ooans

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@Matt Leaf: That sounds about right. And exactly what I'm looking for. Not sure if 32GB is realistic yet but why not :) Could be an amazing portable machine.
It is the time for 32GB to arrive as an (even as an expensive) option for the MBP.
 

Alloy201

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Do you think a 32 option would sell well? I consider myself someone who needs a good amount of horsepower and 16 is plenty for me. I assume the company tries to research to see if their is a solid market for it.
 

Mezzle

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15" macbook pro 2016 prediction: usb - c both sides, two thunderbolt 3 ports, 1 headphones jack. sd card dropped. hdmi dropped. butterfly keyboard, 4k screen. thin, tapered design, skyline processors, 32 gb ram, weight drop of about .5 kg's. june.

I thought that Thunderbolt 3 used the same connector as usb-c?
 
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PFKMan23

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I thought that Thunderbolt 3 used the same connector as usb-c?

It does, but thunderbolt 3 is more than just the port. USB-C is just a connector. You can have a USB-C connector that is only going to be capable of USB 2.0, 3.0, or 3.1 speeds. The wiring and pinout has to be compatible as well to be Thunderbolt 3. Case and point the Oneplus 2. It uses a USB C port, but it's not going to be at Thunderbolt 3 or USB 3.1 transmissions speeds.
 

ooans

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Do you think a 32 option would sell well? I consider myself someone who needs a good amount of horsepower and 16 is plenty for me. I assume the company tries to research to see if their is a solid market for it.
They sell an iMac with 32GB.
 

Oppenheim

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15" macbook pro 2016 prediction: usb - c both sides, two thunderbolt 3 ports, 1 headphones jack. sd card dropped. hdmi dropped. butterfly keyboard, 4k screen. thin, tapered design, skyline processors, 32 gb ram, weight drop of about .5 kg's. june.

USB-C only. 3 on 16", 2 on 14".

All those ports you listed ould look awful, are old and are unnecessary.
 

terminator-jq

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IMO they should keep the dedicated charging port, HDMI port, at least 1 USB 3.0 and at least 1 Thunderbolt. They can put 1 or 2 USB-C ports in place of the SD card slot. Keeping these options would still leave plenty of room for a slightly thinner tapered design. Using USB-C exclusively worked well for the Macbook and it would probably work for the Macbook Air (if it continues) as well sense they are made specifically for sliminess and light weight but for the Macbook Pro, which is more for power users, its better to keep plenty of input options. I would hate to be forced to lug around a USB-C adapter everywhere I go just to use my laptop to its fullest potential.

I really hope Apple doesn't dumb down the Macbook Pro or limit us to USB-C just to make it super thin and light. We really need something from Apple to compete with the higher end Windows laptops. Otherwise people like me who use their MacBook Pro's for design work, app creation and other "Pro" task will be left with just the Windows options.

If all someone cares about is thinness and light weight Apple already has them covered. Buy a Macbook or an Air. Keep the Pro series powerful! Especially if they plan on increasing the screen sizes.
 
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ooans

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IMO they should keep the dedicated charging port, HDMI port, at least 1 USB 3.0 and at least 1 Thunderbolt. They can put 1 or 2 USB-C ports in place of the SD card slot. Keeping these options would still leave plenty of room for a slightly thinner tapered design. Using USB-C exclusively worked well for the Macbook and it would probably work for the Macbook Air (if it continues) as well sense they are made specifically for sliminess and light weight but for the Macbook Pro, which is more for power users, its better to keep plenty of input options. I would hate to be forced to lug around a USB-C adapter everywhere I go just to use my laptop to its fullest potential.

I really hope Apple doesn't dumb down the Macbook Pro or limit us to USB-C just to make it super thin and light. We really need something from Apple to compete with the higher end Windows laptops. Otherwise people like me who use their MacBook Pro's for design work, app creation and other "Pro" task will be left with just the Windows options.

If all someone cares about is thinness and light weight Apple already has them covered. Buy a Macbook or an Air. Keep the Pro series powerful! Especially if they plan on increasing the screen sizes.

The new Thunderbolt also uses the USB-C connector and the ports also work as USB-C depending on the cable and/or device your connecting to.

Pretty sure Apple will want to create the laptop of the future, which will mean that for awhile we'll have lug some adapters with us.
 

MrMitch

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Jun 12, 2013
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15" macbook pro 2016 prediction: usb - c both sides, two thunderbolt 3 ports, 1 headphones jack. sd card dropped. hdmi dropped. butterfly keyboard, 4k screen. thin, tapered design, skyline processors, 32 gb ram, weight drop of about .5 kg's. june.

Totally agree, most likely with the addition of Space Grey, Gold and traditional Silver colour options.
 

maartin

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Don't believe they would dare to drop SD card reader. Apart from that I'm okay with it, but let's not forget that they will need to put batteries somewhere, so I don't expect anything drastically thinner or lighter.
 

toddzrx

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15" macbook pro 2016 prediction: usb - c both sides, two thunderbolt 3 ports, 1 headphones jack. sd card dropped. hdmi dropped. butterfly keyboard, 4k screen. thin, tapered design, skyline processors, 32 gb ram, weight drop of about .5 kg's. june.

No way you'll get a thinner chassis with a 4K screen; battery requirements only increase with more pixels. So the kind of machine you are outlining above would probably be larger and heavier than what we have now.

I'd expect, for a redesign, a slightly thinner chassis (not tapered), Skylake processors (naturally), and a mix of 1 or 2 traditional USB-A ports and 1 or 2 USB-C ports, one or both of which includes Thunderbolt 3. If Apple offers a 32GB option, it'll be very pricey.
 

toddzrx

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It does, but thunderbolt 3 is more than just the port. USB-C is just a connector. You can have a USB-C connector that is only going to be capable of USB 2.0, 3.0, or 3.1 speeds. The wiring and pinout has to be compatible as well to be Thunderbolt 3. Case and point the Oneplus 2. It uses a USB C port, but it's not going to be at Thunderbolt 3 or USB 3.1 transmissions speeds.

My understanding is that the pinout or wiring is not critical, but the controller inside the machine that counts. In other words, I don't think there will be any difference between a USB-C cable with or without Thunderbolt 3; it's up to the USB-C port on the machine to handle the various protocols depending on what controller is inside.
 

toddzrx

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It does, but thunderbolt 3 is more than just the port. USB-C is just a connector. You can have a USB-C connector that is only going to be capable of USB 2.0, 3.0, or 3.1 speeds. The wiring and pinout has to be compatible as well to be Thunderbolt 3. Case and point the Oneplus 2. It uses a USB C port, but it's not going to be at Thunderbolt 3 or USB 3.1 transmissions speeds.

My understanding is that the pinout or wiring is not critical, but the controller inside the machine that counts. In other words, I don't think there will be any difference between a USB-C cable with or without Thunderbolt 3; it's up to the USB-C port on the machine to handle the various protocols depending on what controller is inside.
 

ooans

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My understanding is that the pinout or wiring is not critical, but the controller inside the machine that counts. In other words, I don't think there will be any difference between a USB-C cable with or without Thunderbolt 3; it's up to the USB-C port on the machine to handle the various protocols depending on what controller is inside.

This is from the official Thunderbolt website:


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@dustbeta asks: Will Thunderbolt 3 require special USB Type-C cables? Or will any Type-C cable work?

Any USB Type-C cable will work in a Thunderbolt 3 port. However, connecting to a Thunderbolt 3 device will require a Thunderbolt cable.
"

Sauce: https://thunderbolttechnology.net/blog/you-tweeted-we-listened-thunderbolt-3-capabilities-and-more
 

PFKMan23

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This is from the official Thunderbolt website:


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@dustbeta asks: Will Thunderbolt 3 require special USB Type-C cables? Or will any Type-C cable work?

Any USB Type-C cable will work in a Thunderbolt 3 port. However, connecting to a Thunderbolt 3 device will require a Thunderbolt cable.
"

Sauce: https://thunderbolttechnology.net/blog/you-tweeted-we-listened-thunderbolt-3-capabilities-and-more

Also relevant from the above link:

@faenil says: I’m afraid of buying a Thunderbolt 3 device only to discover after some time that I can’t plug in an external GPU because it’s missing something.

Only specific GPUs will work with specific PCs that have been designed to support eGPU capability and pass Thunderbolt 3 certification. Without Thunderbolt certification for eGPU capability, the system behavior can be unpredictable. To address this question about certifications, we’re creating a page on the Thunderbolt website where you can find availableThunderbolt certified devices. Currently we only have one product listed, but we’re working to add all of the existing Thunderbolt certified products to the page.
 
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