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The next MacBook Pro redesign (merged)
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I don't see this being that big of a difference. The transition to retina was major, but I suspect any new MBP design will bring big changes. Notably if it grows to 14" and 16" or even higher screen resolution, Apple could almost position these as a new category (MacBook Pro2?). They would eventually phase out the existing rMBP but perhaps sell it at a $100 discount until the new ones arrive.
I only suggest this scenario as others have said, Apple can't (or shouldn't) wait till fall for the Skylake upgrade. So my guess is that'll happen in Feb. If they decide to skip Skylake altogether, then they'll need to announce Kaby Lake for fall with the new form factor at WWDC in June. All speculation of course.
I only suggest this scenario as others have said, Apple can't (or shouldn't) wait till fall for the Skylake upgrade. So my guess is that'll happen in Feb. If they decide to skip Skylake altogether, then they'll need to announce Kaby Lake for fall with the new form factor at WWDC in June. All speculation of course.
I agree, there's no way Apple is going to wait until fall for a Skylake update. That would create the longest gap between revisions by a huge historical margin, and Apple has no reason to wait once appropriate Skylake Iris 550 and Iris Pro 580 chips are available.
That being said, similar to Skylake's staggered release schedule, only Kaby Lake GT2 is scheduled for 2016. Kaby Lake GT3 and GT4e aren't scheduled until 2017, so there's no way Kaby Lake is coming in fall 2016. If Apple has a fall redesign, it would still be with Skylake chips.
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http://wccftech.com/intels-10nm-can...ies-q3-2016-kaby-lakes-desktop-chips-1h-2017/
That is truly disheartening!
If the new design is 'just' Skylake, maybe skipping first year models is a good idea. Then again, is Kaby Lake going to be that much faster/better?
Any revolution in CPU performance is going to be pushed back until 4k is the standard for broadcasters/production companies. Until there is a real demand we will get the usual 3-10% increase each tick or tock. HD was the real force behind Sandy Bridge sudden jump in performance.
The decline in PC demand will also make Intel delay the development and evolution of newer chips.
The decline in PC demand will also make Intel delay the development and evolution of newer chips.
Is that not illogical? Isn't intel aiming at maximizing the performance of their processors with the launch of Windows 10 before christmas? Don't get me wrong, it seems to me that Moore's law is coming to an end, once and for all and there's not much intel can change about that at the moment because they are stuck with the architectural bottlenecks of i386... What I found much more astonishing is the processor speed of the new iPad Pro, which is faster than the current Macbook. Maybe in the next year or the year after we will see a switch from intel to Apple's AX (arm'ish)?
I believe Windows 10 has already launched.
If they decide to jump unto a architectural change from Intel, Apple may delay my purchases for a long time. I'm not going through a transition again. The Rosetta emulation from PowerPC to Intel was horrible.
Again. It's ignorant to compare performance from different Operation Systems and Hardware Architectures. I don't really care about the performance of the iPad Pro, since I can't run or utilise the programs I run on my Intel system.
I realize that considering what seems to be Apples marketing strategy what I am about to wish for is highly unlikely.
my usage is primarily photoshop on my 15 rMBP with a pen tablet. The new iPad pro now has a great pen, I would like to see the next MBP 15/16 be able to use this pen it would be a photographers dream, also the case would need the ability to fold over so it could be used in tablet mode, similar to the Surface laptop. Surface laptops are only 13.5 or I might consider moving back. All this is well within Apples abilities, but they seem to want force everyone to buy both a iPad and macbook or some similar combination. I don't ever see myself with an iPad and it doesn't have the power to do photo editing.
my usage is primarily photoshop on my 15 rMBP with a pen tablet. The new iPad pro now has a great pen, I would like to see the next MBP 15/16 be able to use this pen it would be a photographers dream, also the case would need the ability to fold over so it could be used in tablet mode, similar to the Surface laptop. Surface laptops are only 13.5 or I might consider moving back. All this is well within Apples abilities, but they seem to want force everyone to buy both a iPad and macbook or some similar combination. I don't ever see myself with an iPad and it doesn't have the power to do photo editing.
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Get a Surface Pro 3 or 4 if you need it now.
That said, I wouldn't be surprised to see Adobe come out with PS on iOS for the iPad Pro.
Maybe for the third generation. Now all the new platforms get, like Apple Watch and iPad Pro, is the apps from super rich social media firms. More advanced software usually use a lot of time to figure out how to replace the gestures we have learned to love from the keyboard and mouse. Storing hundred of gigabytes of photos in the cloud doesn't suit many of the data plans currently available on the cellular market.
Right now the iPad Pro is a toy for the ones who have a steady business and already own top of the line legacy equipment. Considering, but not buying at the moment. Very curious though. Too new to be practical with the current state of cellular coverage, ways of input and overall control.
A rMB with cellular modem is what I miss at the moment. Not having to activate and manage two devices at the same time. Still not seeing it happen, when Apple have the possibility to sell you both a computer and a phone in the same bag.
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If Apple managed to do a Q1 release of an Iris Pro 580 rMBP with a resdesigned body (to compete against recent Window Ultrabook formfactor) I would be willing to throw £3000 on that beast.
One of the main reason I am not moving to a Windows laptop (even if I would preferably use Windows 10 due to work/gaming) is that 16:10 screen is nigh impossible to find on a 15inch laptop - let a lone the ridiculous battery life you can get with macbooks.
Come on Apple, take my money.
One of the main reason I am not moving to a Windows laptop (even if I would preferably use Windows 10 due to work/gaming) is that 16:10 screen is nigh impossible to find on a 15inch laptop - let a lone the ridiculous battery life you can get with macbooks.
Come on Apple, take my money
.Question for y'all:
When the new Macbook Pro gets a redesign, do you want to buy it? Or do you take the regular old advice never to buy a first generation product of its kind?
When the new Macbook Pro gets a redesign, do you want to buy it? Or do you take the regular old advice never to buy a first generation product of its kind?
Depends on how big of a compromise it is: how many less ports to get it thinner etc.
If 16GB RAM is still the maximum, I might have to hold out for the next one.
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Depends on the design and price, not whether it's first gen for me.. This'll be the last machine I can get as a student, and we get a very long warranty.
a first generation product is apple watch, the first ipad or the new macbook
i don't think there will be a dramatic change because it will still be a macbook pro and not a new mac
the mancbook was from gound made from chassis battery build fanless etc
i think they can remove the usb to put the usb-c, and remove sd card or even the hdmi
i don't think there will be a dramatic change because it will still be a macbook pro and not a new mac
the mancbook was from gound made from chassis battery build fanless etc
i think they can remove the usb to put the usb-c, and remove sd card or even the hdmi
iPhone and iPad first generations lacked applications, gestures and designs to utilise the new navigation on touchscreens. The problem was also evident on the first Macbooks with Intel with the lack of native support of apps programmed for the older PowerPC architecture. All redesigns or new models will make users more curious, and therefore the added excitement will lead to more "issues" being discovered.
I'd say a firm release date on the i7s with Iris Pro would be a more solid indicator.
A release in March would be the best move for Apple. The Windows laptop market has made some big moves over the past couple years and the current Macbook Pro models are starting to fall behind. Most importantly, Microsofts new Surface Book laptop was a direct attack on the Macbook Pro, so it would be nice to see Apple bring something than can blow it out of the water.
A slightly slimmer and lighter body is almost a given for the new model. Although I wouldn't expect it to be dramatically slim. The top 3 most important things Apple needs to do is:
1. Slim the bezels or bump the screens to 14" and 16" (while keeping the body the same size). The PC market is moving towards slimmer bezels and it would be nice to see Apple follow this trend. If they don't do this, they risk the new models looking a little dated next to their PC competitors. Also, as a few people have already said, bumping up to 14" for the base model would help separate the Macbook Pro's from the Macbook and Air.
2. Support DCI-P3 color gamut. We've already seen them do this with the new iMac 4K and 5K models so I don't see any reason why they wouldn't put it in the new Macbook Pro's. For anyone that doesn't know, DCI-P3 is the same color gamut that you get at movie theaters and is much wider than the old Rec. 709 color gamut that most TVs and laptop screens use (for example: the shade of red that Coke uses is not supported by the Rec. 709 gamut). Currently, the TV industry is going through a major transition by adding more color, more pixels and HDR. The new UHD BluRay format coming next year will have all 3 (4K resolution, DCI color and HDR). Sense the industry is quickly moving toward using wider color gamut (both in displays and in content) it would be very nice to see Apple support this upgrade, especially for photographers and graphic artist.
3. Major Graphics and CPU upgrade for both the 13" and 15" models. I'm sure this is a given sense Skylake will no doubt be included but its very important that we see a power bump. The next Macbook Pro's should be able to hold their own on the Benchmark test.
Beyond that, new colors, IGZO screen, 256gb starting memory and other small details are just icing on the cake. This will be a very important launch for Apple.
A slightly slimmer and lighter body is almost a given for the new model. Although I wouldn't expect it to be dramatically slim. The top 3 most important things Apple needs to do is:
1. Slim the bezels or bump the screens to 14" and 16" (while keeping the body the same size). The PC market is moving towards slimmer bezels and it would be nice to see Apple follow this trend. If they don't do this, they risk the new models looking a little dated next to their PC competitors. Also, as a few people have already said, bumping up to 14" for the base model would help separate the Macbook Pro's from the Macbook and Air.
2. Support DCI-P3 color gamut. We've already seen them do this with the new iMac 4K and 5K models so I don't see any reason why they wouldn't put it in the new Macbook Pro's. For anyone that doesn't know, DCI-P3 is the same color gamut that you get at movie theaters and is much wider than the old Rec. 709 color gamut that most TVs and laptop screens use (for example: the shade of red that Coke uses is not supported by the Rec. 709 gamut). Currently, the TV industry is going through a major transition by adding more color, more pixels and HDR. The new UHD BluRay format coming next year will have all 3 (4K resolution, DCI color and HDR). Sense the industry is quickly moving toward using wider color gamut (both in displays and in content) it would be very nice to see Apple support this upgrade, especially for photographers and graphic artist.
3. Major Graphics and CPU upgrade for both the 13" and 15" models. I'm sure this is a given sense Skylake will no doubt be included but its very important that we see a power bump. The next Macbook Pro's should be able to hold their own on the Benchmark test.
Beyond that, new colors, IGZO screen, 256gb starting memory and other small details are just icing on the cake. This will be a very important launch for Apple.
I don't think details are just icing on the cake. It's the details that matter. The culmination of lots of small changes is what separates the MBP from the chaff.
I want to see all ports except USB-C removed - MagSafe, SD slot, 3.5mm jack, HDMI, one-way USB, DP, etc.
I think a bezel shrink is inevitable. The big question is a reduction in body size or an increase in display size?
I want to see all ports except USB-C removed - MagSafe, SD slot, 3.5mm jack, HDMI, one-way USB, DP, etc.
I think a bezel shrink is inevitable. The big question is a reduction in body size or an increase in display size?
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