The GC was incredibly competitive. It was a good deal more powerful than the PS2 and considerably cheaper at $199 at launch. It's biggest con was the use of a mini not quite DVD and some missing buttons on the controller.I'm always surprised to see Nintendo get away with selling old hardware (Ampere is from 2020) for such high prices. They've always done it since the GC days. The N64 was different, but I guess their last competitive hardware taking a front seat for performance was the SNES.
In the end, Nintendo is always about the games. Want Mario and Zelda? Then pay the price. Personally I'll sit back for now and wait for more Mario and Zelda games.
They already announced a bunch, first few are Wind Waker, F-Zero GX and Soulcalibur II. And it looks like Mario Sunshine, Fire Emblem, Pokemon Colosseums, Chibi Robo and Luigi's Mansion will be there at some point too. I think they're just part of the expansion pass and they haven't announced a price increase yet to my knowledge...I think the magnetic detachment will be more durable and easier than the fiddly railing system. Snapping the joy cons off will be easy as sharing kit kats.
I will wait to buy until I have clarity on:
-Visual improvements. Is it a big jump or marginal?
-Battery life. Is real use battery life halved?
-Price of games. £75 for a Mario themed Forza Horizon knock off is high. Not sure I want to spend GTA6 money on a title for the kids to Dilly Daley in. Will this be an indication of future prices? With Steam and Xbox you can wait 6-13 months and buy any games at 30-50% less. Nintendo rarely discounts first party titles.
-I am keen on gamecube titles. I want to see which games will be available, cost and whether there is any ai upscaling.
Completely agree - the Steam Deck is not a problem for me as a full grown >6 foot tall guy ... but it is important for Nintendo for these things to work for 8-year olds.Totally. Compromises have to be made. You can't have max performance, low price, low thermals, lgiht weight and long battery life.
IGN got Nintendo to admit that the Switch 2 supports Ray Tracing and DLSS. So it is at least Turing level hardware.
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Nintendo Confirms Switch 2 Uses DLSS and Ray Tracing, but Is Being Super Vague About the Details - IGN
Nintendo has confirmed the Switch 2 uses DLSS and ray tracing technology, but has yet to go into detail on how exactly, or show them off. And as for the GPU, Nintendo would prefer to focus on "the value that we can provide to our consumers."www.ign.com
This was obvious. In the cp2077 footage you could see some artifacts around the character riding the motor cycle.IGN got Nintendo to admit that the Switch 2 supports Ray Tracing and DLSS. So it is at least Turing level hardware.
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Nintendo Confirms Switch 2 Uses DLSS and Ray Tracing, but Is Being Super Vague About the Details - IGN
Nintendo has confirmed the Switch 2 uses DLSS and ray tracing technology, but has yet to go into detail on how exactly, or show them off. And as for the GPU, Nintendo would prefer to focus on "the value that we can provide to our consumers."www.ign.com
Not just 8 year olds but my kids have played the switch since the age of 5. So it needs to be easy to hold, handle and fit in small bags or jackets. Not to mention be durable.Completely agree - the Steam Deck is not a problem for me as a full grown >6 foot tall guy ... but it is important for Nintendo for these things to work for 8-year olds.
Allegedly Orin (what the Switch 2 hardware is based on) has been available for purchase/use since 2022.This was obvious. In the cp2077 footage you could see some artifacts around the character riding the motor cycle.
It will be interesting to see whether nvidia will be permitted to sell a forked version of the SO . that could be beefed up with more watts and a bigger case.
Absolutely - I was just tossing out a contrast, our kids got their first system (GBA for one, GBA SP for the other) when they were ~7 and the durability and hold-ability are key things.Not just 8 year olds but my kids have played the switch since the age of 5. So it needs to be easy to hold, handle and fit in small bags or jackets. Not to mention be durable.
I suspect Nintendo will sell the Switch along side the Switch 2 for a bit. The age of the folks in the stream seemed to be older and younger than the folks they showed for the Switch 1 stream.Absolutely - I was just tossing out a contrast, our kids got their first system (GBA for one, GBA SP for the other) when they were ~7 and the durability and hold-ability are key things.
I wonder about the Switch 2 screen size impacting how usable it would be for smaller kids? I think having it minimize overall size and weight (while assuming they've done all they can for the screen durability) is very smart.
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Nintendo Switch 2 Leveled Up With NVIDIA AI-Powered DLSS and 4K Gaming
The Nintendo Switch 2, unveiled April 2, takes performance to the next level, powered by a custom NVIDIA processor featuring an NVIDIA GPU with dedicated RT Cores and Tensor Cores for stunning visuals and AI-driven enhancements. With 1,000 engineer-years of effort across every element — from...blogs.nvidia.com
Nvidia also dropped a blurb. They also state that the handheld display is VRR.
Interesting. It sounds like they have shrunk all of the tech from a 2080 and fit it into a small form factor.![]()
Nintendo Switch 2 Leveled Up With NVIDIA AI-Powered DLSS and 4K Gaming
The Nintendo Switch 2, unveiled April 2, takes performance to the next level, powered by a custom NVIDIA processor featuring an NVIDIA GPU with dedicated RT Cores and Tensor Cores for stunning visuals and AI-driven enhancements. With 1,000 engineer-years of effort across every element — from...blogs.nvidia.com
Nvidia also dropped a blurb. They also state that the handheld display is VRR.
For a handheld, yes. Overall, not sure. Obviously they're targeting the younger generation, playing everywhere. Those of us that prefer to play at home, with a better audio and video setup might disagree. My guess would be, between mobile and docked, I'd use it 99% docked and that's where better hardware comes in handy. But even if they're not focusing on best performance, they're focusing on a big price.As much as it pains me to say this, Nintendo is right to not focus on performance. Especially in a handheld.
Yes and no. The PS2 is older than the GC. GC was much closer to Xbox. As for performance, that's a question of what you want. GC was great with textures, especially compression if you could load them all. Polygon count was limited though compared to PS2, which was much better. Ultimately the Xbox solved many issues both PS2 and GC had.The GC was incredibly competitive. It was a good deal more powerful than the PS2 and considerably cheaper at $199 at launch. Its biggest con was the use of a mini not quite DVD and some missing buttons on the controller.
The AGX is pretty much the top of the line. There are smaller options. Nvidia dev-kits are in general very expensive. We have several of their systems from the smallest Nano to the largest AGX and they're fantastic for what they are. The production modules are much cheaper, but Nvidia is only selling them in large quantities, which makes it unfeasible for most. So what you'll find are inflated prices online from large suppliers like Arrow or Siliconhighway. If you place an order of 100k+ units directly with Nvidia, they're much more affordable.The dev kit on Amazon seems pretty expensive.
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NVIDIA Jetson AGX Orin 64GB Developer Kit
The NVIDIA® Jetson AGX Orin™ 64GB Developer Kit makes it easy to get started with Jetson Orin. Compact size, lots of connectors, and up to 275 TOPS of AI performance make this developer kit perfect for prototyping advanced AI-powered robots and other autonomous machines. The developer kit include...www.amazon.com
Yep, can't blame them. Too much uncertainty and too huge a change to just eat.Ya'll see the April 9 preorders in the US have been cancelled? (Or at least put on hold cause tariffs)
Honestly would love Nintendo to just reallocate all pre-order units form US to other countries ... say "Available in USA in Q3 pending reassessment of economic situation."Yep, can't blame them. Too much uncertainty and too huge a change to just eat.
Honestly would love Nintendo to just reallocate all pre-order units form US to other countries ... say "Available in USA in Q3 pending reassessment of economic situation."
But tariffs are supposed to make everything cheaper and help to improve the economy. Just buy the Switch 2 version made in the US... oh wait... 🤣Honestly would love Nintendo to just reallocate all pre-order units form US to other countries ... say "Available in USA in Q3 pending reassessment of economic situation."
You're probably right - I know most device makers to a fairly broad base of testing on their systems in bulk (you see UL/CE/etc. certifications, and ability for chargers to handle 110/220 and 50/60Hz ... but not sure what other potential distinctions might be there.That’s mean lol. But I don’t think possible as different countries have different regulations devices needs to meet. I don’t think any Switch 2 price increase will be a patch on what increases Apple are going to be introducing this year…………….
That is my point ... the US is so used to feeling like 'the default country' that a big shift that allows other markets to dominate would be a huge impact.Otherwise, I'm with you. Play stupid games, win stupid prices (yes, prices in this case). Pretty sure Nintendo would have no problem selling all available units in the rest of the world and let the US wait. 🤷♂️
It wouldn't make a difference. They made the Joy-cons bigger on the Switch 2, so Drumpf wouldn't be able to hold them with his small hands, so he won't be getting it, and thus he wouldn't care to change anything tariff wise.Honestly would love Nintendo to just reallocate all pre-order units form US to other countries ... say "Available in USA in Q3 pending reassessment of economic situation."