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I may have to forget waiting for the Lite! Loads of hands on videos on You Tube now from the press. DK looks amazing!

The console is priced fine, it's just those game prices...
 
I'm always surprised to see Nintendo get away with selling old hardware (Ampere is from 2020) for such high prices. They've always done it since the GC days. The N64 was different, but I guess their last competitive hardware taking a front seat for performance was the SNES.

In the end, Nintendo is always about the games. Want Mario and Zelda? Then pay the price. Personally I'll sit back for now and wait for more Mario and Zelda games.
The GC was incredibly competitive. It was a good deal more powerful than the PS2 and considerably cheaper at $199 at launch. It's biggest con was the use of a mini not quite DVD and some missing buttons on the controller.
I think the magnetic detachment will be more durable and easier than the fiddly railing system. Snapping the joy cons off will be easy as sharing kit kats.

I will wait to buy until I have clarity on:
-Visual improvements. Is it a big jump or marginal?
-Battery life. Is real use battery life halved?
-Price of games. £75 for a Mario themed Forza Horizon knock off is high. Not sure I want to spend GTA6 money on a title for the kids to Dilly Daley in. Will this be an indication of future prices? With Steam and Xbox you can wait 6-13 months and buy any games at 30-50% less. Nintendo rarely discounts first party titles.
-I am keen on gamecube titles. I want to see which games will be available, cost and whether there is any ai upscaling.
They already announced a bunch, first few are Wind Waker, F-Zero GX and Soulcalibur II. And it looks like Mario Sunshine, Fire Emblem, Pokemon Colosseums, Chibi Robo and Luigi's Mansion will be there at some point too. I think they're just part of the expansion pass and they haven't announced a price increase yet to my knowledge...
 
Totally. Compromises have to be made. You can't have max performance, low price, low thermals, lgiht weight and long battery life.
Completely agree - the Steam Deck is not a problem for me as a full grown >6 foot tall guy ... but it is important for Nintendo for these things to work for 8-year olds.
 
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IGN got Nintendo to admit that the Switch 2 supports Ray Tracing and DLSS. So it is at least Turing level hardware.


You can tell it's some meaty hardware. It's totally custom hardware this time, and ARM, running games at 120FPS 1080P and 4K 60FPS is already a step above the Steam Deck, add in HDR.

Watching the Treehouse on Metroid Prime 4 Switch 2 edition and it looks stunning.

And they are using the joycons held in the hand, then to switch to 'mouse mode' just put it in the desk, it's all automatic switching between control modes. That's clever.
 
IGN got Nintendo to admit that the Switch 2 supports Ray Tracing and DLSS. So it is at least Turing level hardware.

This was obvious. In the cp2077 footage you could see some artifacts around the character riding the motor cycle.

It will be interesting to see whether nvidia will be permitted to sell a forked version of the SO . that could be beefed up with more watts and a bigger case.
 
This was obvious. But I have been awaiting geeky details. In the cp2077 footage you could see some artifacts around the character riding the motor cycle.

It will be interesting to see whether nvidia will be permitted to sell a forked version of the SOC. that could be beefed up with more watts and a bigger case and sold as a handheld PC.


Completely agree - the Steam Deck is not a problem for me as a full grown >6 foot tall guy ... but it is important for Nintendo for these things to work for 8-year olds.
Not just 8 year olds but my kids have played the switch since the age of 5. So it needs to be easy to hold, handle and fit in small bags or jackets. Not to mention be durable.
 
This was obvious. In the cp2077 footage you could see some artifacts around the character riding the motor cycle.

It will be interesting to see whether nvidia will be permitted to sell a forked version of the SO . that could be beefed up with more watts and a bigger case.
Allegedly Orin (what the Switch 2 hardware is based on) has been available for purchase/use since 2022.

The dev kit on Amazon seems pretty expensive.
 
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Nvidia also dropped a blurb. They also state that the handheld display is VRR.
 
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Not just 8 year olds but my kids have played the switch since the age of 5. So it needs to be easy to hold, handle and fit in small bags or jackets. Not to mention be durable.
Absolutely - I was just tossing out a contrast, our kids got their first system (GBA for one, GBA SP for the other) when they were ~7 and the durability and hold-ability are key things.

I wonder about the Switch 2 screen size impacting how usable it would be for smaller kids? I think having it minimize overall size and weight (while assuming they've done all they can for the screen durability) is very smart.
 
Absolutely - I was just tossing out a contrast, our kids got their first system (GBA for one, GBA SP for the other) when they were ~7 and the durability and hold-ability are key things.

I wonder about the Switch 2 screen size impacting how usable it would be for smaller kids? I think having it minimize overall size and weight (while assuming they've done all they can for the screen durability) is very smart.
I suspect Nintendo will sell the Switch along side the Switch 2 for a bit. The age of the folks in the stream seemed to be older and younger than the folks they showed for the Switch 1 stream.
 

Nvidia also dropped a blurb. They also state that the handheld display is VRR.

Wow, if it had an OLED screen it would have the full deck, but as it is it’s pretty darn good. Those who have gone hands on have all said the screen is very good for an LCD.
 
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Nvidia also dropped a blurb. They also state that the handheld display is VRR.
Interesting. It sounds like they have shrunk all of the tech from a 2080 and fit it into a small form factor.

The blog post doesn't state anything custom or new arm based tech that we haven't heard of.

This is excellent news for third party developers as developing for the switch 2 won't require reinventing the wheel.

4k output is likely powered by dlss performance.
 
As much as it pains me to say this, Nintendo is right to not focus on performance. Especially in a handheld.
For a handheld, yes. Overall, not sure. Obviously they're targeting the younger generation, playing everywhere. Those of us that prefer to play at home, with a better audio and video setup might disagree. My guess would be, between mobile and docked, I'd use it 99% docked and that's where better hardware comes in handy. But even if they're not focusing on best performance, they're focusing on a big price. ;)
Of course they can, people are still buying it no matter what they ask. But wouldn't a $199 price for "outdated" hardware (notice the quotation marks) sound much better?
The GC was incredibly competitive. It was a good deal more powerful than the PS2 and considerably cheaper at $199 at launch. Its biggest con was the use of a mini not quite DVD and some missing buttons on the controller.
Yes and no. The PS2 is older than the GC. GC was much closer to Xbox. As for performance, that's a question of what you want. GC was great with textures, especially compression if you could load them all. Polygon count was limited though compared to PS2, which was much better. Ultimately the Xbox solved many issues both PS2 and GC had.

The dev kit on Amazon seems pretty expensive.
The AGX is pretty much the top of the line. There are smaller options. Nvidia dev-kits are in general very expensive. We have several of their systems from the smallest Nano to the largest AGX and they're fantastic for what they are. The production modules are much cheaper, but Nvidia is only selling them in large quantities, which makes it unfeasible for most. So what you'll find are inflated prices online from large suppliers like Arrow or Siliconhighway. If you place an order of 100k+ units directly with Nvidia, they're much more affordable.

As for Nintendo, for some reason they've become much more picky about who they ship Switch 2 dev kits to, at least for now.
 
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Ya'll see the April 9 preorders in the US have been cancelled? (Or at least put on hold cause tariffs)
 
Honestly would love Nintendo to just reallocate all pre-order units form US to other countries ... say "Available in USA in Q3 pending reassessment of economic situation."

That’s mean lol. But I don’t think possible as different countries have different regulations devices needs to meet. I don’t think any Switch 2 price increase will be a patch on what increases Apple are going to be introducing this year…………….
 
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Honestly would love Nintendo to just reallocate all pre-order units form US to other countries ... say "Available in USA in Q3 pending reassessment of economic situation."
But tariffs are supposed to make everything cheaper and help to improve the economy. Just buy the Switch 2 version made in the US... oh wait... 🤣

Otherwise, I'm with you. Play stupid games, win stupid prices (yes, prices in this case). Pretty sure Nintendo would have no problem selling all available units in the rest of the world and let the US wait. 🤷‍♂️
 
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That’s mean lol. But I don’t think possible as different countries have different regulations devices needs to meet. I don’t think any Switch 2 price increase will be a patch on what increases Apple are going to be introducing this year…………….
You're probably right - I know most device makers to a fairly broad base of testing on their systems in bulk (you see UL/CE/etc. certifications, and ability for chargers to handle 110/220 and 50/60Hz ... but not sure what other potential distinctions might be there.
Otherwise, I'm with you. Play stupid games, win stupid prices (yes, prices in this case). Pretty sure Nintendo would have no problem selling all available units in the rest of the world and let the US wait. 🤷‍♂️
That is my point ... the US is so used to feeling like 'the default country' that a big shift that allows other markets to dominate would be a huge impact.
 
Looking at the japan only version price of the Switch 2 and comparing with the german price, the german prices are a bit steep.
Mario Kart World price seems high, unless you get it bundled with the Switch 2, then it is cheap.

Virtual Game Cards for lending games out are imo a nice idea.

LCD is fine for me as long as it is high quality. Mini LED LCD would be nice (Writing this on a M1 iPad Pro with mini LED LCD).

I like:
There are upgrade packs for BOTW / TOTK - No need to buy the "Switch 2 Edition" for full price (I do not mind buying them for like 10€ or so).
Switch Pro Controller and Joycons can be used with the Switch 2, so i (we) can keep using them for family play…

Resolution and Framerates look good for a mobile device (and HDR support adds a nice touch), i nave no qualms about that from the Gameplay i have seen (Nintendo has no magic dust to cram a 4070 Super Ti in the cubic volume of a Switch 2). I have to admit that i already have a PC for Cyberpunk and the like.

The Switch 2 could keep me busy with BOTW / TOTK Enhanced, Mario Kart World and the other Games i already have.
 
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Yeah they are "artificially" lowering the price of the console in Japan because the exchange rates are so bad there. 1 Euro is like 160 yen (which is apparently worse than the dollar to yen ratio). They don't want to price themselves out of their home market.
 
Honestly would love Nintendo to just reallocate all pre-order units form US to other countries ... say "Available in USA in Q3 pending reassessment of economic situation."
It wouldn't make a difference. They made the Joy-cons bigger on the Switch 2, so Drumpf wouldn't be able to hold them with his small hands, so he won't be getting it, and thus he wouldn't care to change anything tariff wise.
 
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