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How did Ellen (Boomer) find the fleet? Space is massive and they were no where near earth.


Great question, still no answer. But with Galactica not being able to jump, Boomer will be able to find her way back this time pretty easily. If the rest of the fleet does jump when they come back, this could mean an all out battle between Galactica and the "bad" cylons. That's what I'm hoping for. I want an epic fight, especially since I just got the show in HD in my market!:p


With only 3 eps left, things are really going to start picking up. Let's hope there's not an ambiguous ending. I want answers and resolution. If I wanted to use my imagination, I'd read a book...:D

Hera's the key to the show's ending. Maybe it'll be her and Starbuck finding a new planet.
 
Great question, still no answer. But with Galactica not being able to jump, Boomer will be able to find her way back this time pretty easily. If the rest of the fleet does jump when they come back, this could mean an all out battle between Galactica and the "bad" cylons. That's what I'm hoping for. I want an epic fight, especially since I just got the show in HD in my market!:p


With only 3 eps left, things are really going to start picking up. Let's hope there's not an ambiguous ending. I want answers and resolution. If I wanted to use my imagination, I'd read a book...:D

Hera's the key to the show's ending. Maybe it'll be her and Starbuck finding a new planet.

I doubt Galactica has the fight in her to take a few hits from a basestar, let alone two of which we know they will turn up with.

I reckon we will likely see something totally unexpected... perhaps a risky jump... or the basestar suiciding into the enemy basestars in a huge heroic move to show the colonials who's side they are really on.
 
It seems this is where it is heading... I'm a cylon, you're a cylon, where the frack are the humans? :D

I figured this out last episode when Kara started hearing that guy playing the "Cylon song". And on another thought.

The guy that was playing the piano is Starbucks father.

Plus the introduction to the show mentioned nothing about Cylons. A first for this show.
 
For some reason, the Final Five theme song kind of irritates me. It's 'audience inferior.' The characters' reactions to the song are so hyperbolic (in particular, Tigh's fantastic gurn) that it's wearing out its prophetic/mysterious potential and becoming a tease. Also, the song's contemporary inspiration is distracting, and especially meaningless if it doesn't, in the end, tie together in some way with the present day (i.e. we were the 13th tribe, etc.), a scenario that I'm not sure is desirable.

I thought "Someone to Watch Over Me" was much better once Tyrol decided to replace Boomer with the abducted Eight. That was the first interesting choice of the episode, and quite an interesting choice too... just a pity that it had to wait until the last act or two. After that we got a causal chain of pretty brilliant scenes, including Boomer screwing Helo in front of Athena, Boomer ripping a new one in Galactica (although it would have been nice if they had established a little further back that a jump could have this effect), and Athena beating Helo's back - for the horror of it and for his impotence. All of that stuff was high-intensity and quite worthy, I thought. Roslyn's collapse at the end was bleah, though, 'cause like "All Along the Watchtower" her metaphysical connection to Hera is only a fact - we don't understand its significance or even its potential.

The A-plot around Starbuck was yawnable, not because it was too slow, if there is such a thing, but because what it established (that Starbuck is connected in some way to the Final Five) is such an incremental revelation for a show that has a lot to explain in a satisfying way in just a handful of episodes. Galactica has a funny way of spending five minutes on the entire backstory of the thirteen colonies ("No Exit") yet just chilling with Starbuck on the piano for ever so we can snatch a tiny insight into her cosmic role.

I grant you that we were introduced to a new character that will probably turn out to be Daniel or at least someone important (although you'd think they already had enough of them competing for screen time), but in the meantime we have to endure repetitive visions of Starbuck being haunted by her own zombie, giving mission briefings, waking up, and showering. I thought the episode theme was going to be about repetition (what with the piano player repeating his composition), but that kind of evaporated. What we are left with is a contemplative overlay of piano music on top of the other, more dynamic storylines, an overlay that doesn't manage to inject any special meaning into what we see. Unlike the show's other great montage, where a passacaglia plays over Lee boxing with Adama and Helo chasing Boomer on Caprica, the piano here doesn't resonate as completely with the scenes it plays on top of.

I did like the last scene, with Tyrol hunting for the baby Boomer promised him and essentially realizing that her promises were all false. Likewise, I'm glad that Boomer wasn't simply "convinced" by Ellen on Cavil's basestar, as that seemed like quite a leap for her. However, in a show where characters routinely make sudden leaps and changes of mind, the revelation about Boomer's true intentions has less impact, in my opinion, than if something seemed terribly fishy about her choice from the beginning.

Nonetheless, I'm relieved that BSG made it to the finale without collapsing under its own weight. I thought it might do after season 3 and even after the more promising season 4.0. The remaining episodes are written by Michael Taylor and Ron Moore for the curtain. The two of them must have a rapport since they will be codeveloping the recently commissioned Virtuality for Fox. I expect them to be excellently written, even if they don't deliver on every expectation that BSG has accumulated like barnacles over the course of six years.
 
I'm not sure that's a conclusive argument. :D

I wouldn't be surprised if Starbuck was the seven, but I would be disappointed. That leaves about three main characters that are human, assuming any of them are in the end.
 
Starbuck is not #7. Her father is. And I'm guessing her father is the paino player.

Stabuck and Hera are both hybrids. That's how they both knew the song.
 
Everyone of them are Cylon.... There are no humans anymore. I have thought that since the end of last season.
 
Starbuck is not #7. Her father is. And I'm guessing her father is the paino player.

So, question about Starbuck's father. He wasn't really there, right? I mean, he was a projection of Starbuck's? In the scene where Tigh shakes Starbuck, only her copy of the song is on the piano, and she's alone.

This is way out in left field, too, but I was thinking about how all the 12s and 13s come from Judaism, and in Judaism, there are 13 tribes because Joseph is represented by Manasseh and Ephraim. Although now there are already 13 Cylons, since, like Joseph, Daniel is gone from the picture, I was wondering randomly if he might actually have two children -- that is, that there's one more like Starbuck left.
 
So, question about Starbuck's father. He wasn't really there, right? I mean, he was a projection of Starbuck's? In the scene where Tigh shakes Starbuck, only her copy of the song is on the piano, and she's alone.

This is way out in left field, too, but I was thinking about how all the 12s and 13s come from Judaism, and in Judaism, there are 13 tribes because Joseph is represented by Manasseh and Ephraim. Although now there are already 13 Cylons, since, like Joseph, Daniel is gone from the picture, I was wondering randomly if he might actually have two children -- that is, that there's one more like Starbuck left.

Mormonism, actually. Many people have commented on the striking parallels between the original Battlestar Galactica series and Mormon theology. Glen A. Larson, himself a Mormon, liberally combined the teachings of his faith with the then-popular "ancient astronauts" hypothesis to come up with the show.

The new show has simply inherited these devices from the original.
 
Are you talking about Mormonism copying these things from the Torah (or more specifically, the King James Version of the English Bible), now, or are you talking about the new BSG and the old BSG? :D

New and old BSG. I'd hate to accidentally get the BSG thread PRSIed. ;)
 
Here's a really good theory..

In all these "projections". It's the Cylons way of going to a different reality so to speak. Like when What's his name. The chief thats married to a Cylon? They touch hands and poof they are off to their house. Same with starbuck at the piano. She's off into a different reality type thing.

What if..hehe

When the war came the Cylons killed all the humans. E.G. when they found earth it was a wasteland. Nothing. Nada!

Everybody is a Cylon and they are all living out this "other reality". Including the whole fleet.

In all previous episodes the introduction said there were 30,000 survivors and 13 Cylons. Some are known. Some aren't.

The episode that aired last week had no mention of "Cylons". Period. It just said there were 30,000 survivors. Those survivors are Cylons. They are really in search of the remnants of their kind.

Just babbling :)
 
Here's a really good theory..

In all these "projections". It's the Cylons way of going to a different reality so to speak. Like when What's his name. The chief thats married to a Cylon? They touch hands and poof they are off to their house. Same with starbuck at the piano. She's off into a different reality type thing.

What if..hehe

When the war came the Cylons killed all the humans. E.G. when they found earth it was a wasteland. Nothing. Nada!

Everybody is a Cylon and they are all living out this "other reality". Including the whole fleet.

In all previous episodes the introduction said there were 30,000 survivors and 13 Cylons. Some are known. Some aren't.

The episode that aired last week had no mention of "Cylons". Period. It just said there were 30,000 survivors. Those survivors are Cylons. They are really in search of the remnants of their kind.

Just babbling :)

you know, I gave the thought of them all being cyclons just thought....a quick thought, but after reading a few of these posts, maybe I was right.

I know one thing, if done right, it could be a mind blowing ending if they shocked all the survivors into realizing they were all cyclons.

but if they were, does that explain Gata's leg amputation? Maybe he was a hybrid?
 
but if they were, does that explain Gata's leg amputation? Maybe he was a hybrid?
Cylon's can be hurt and injured, so Gaeta's leg doesn't sway things either way. Just this week we saw Athena get the crap beat out of her, and poor old Sam is still recovering from a bullet to the neck.
 
The thing that is bugging me, and will continue to bug me, is how they propose to explain the resurrection of Kara's Viper.

It seems to require some conscious entity on Earth to whom we have not been introduced.
 
The thing that is bugging me, and will continue to bug me, is how they propose to explain the resurrection of Kara's Viper.

It seems to require some conscious entity on Earth to whom we have not been introduced.

But we have!! Cylons are on that Earth. If they can reproduce a human/Cylon they can surely reproduce a Viper.;)
 
You guys aren't getting it in regards to the viper.

Remember when she went to earth and found her viper?. There was grass and weeds all over the place. When the group went to earth it was void of anything.

Where was the grass and weeds in that baren wasteland ?
 
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