The P30 Pro is tempting me away from iPhone

[Thai]

Never experienced Camera lens scratch on any Android I owned, then again I put cases on my smartphones like most people do. I know it was a thing for the LG V20 back in 2016 with cracking.

Which particular Android in 2018/2019 is having a lens scratch issue? Didn’t know it was as widespread as you are claiming.



Anyway this is going far off what OP asked.

OP if you want to give the P30 Pro a go, try it out!

Yeah, off-topic. Sorry. Last post on this...here is a discussion just a few months ago: https://forums.androidcentral.com/google-pixel-2-pixel-2-xl/957149-scuffed-back-camera-lens.html

Another: https://forums.androidcentral.com/ask-question/885395-why-my-rear-camera-blurry-foggy.html

Another: https://forums.androidcentral.com/a...mera-lens-will-affect-camera-performance.html

https://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-g6/786629-camera-scratches.html

Etc..

 

[pika2000]

I have an XS Max and love it. It's a brilliant phone, and is still going very strong. I look forward to that continuing now that Apple aren't deliberately slowing down phones older than 12 months for whatever reason they tried to justify doing that.

However - my girlfriend recently purchased a Huawei P30 Pro, and in many ways, it leaves the Max in the dust. That's not surprising given the rate of technology - every few months, the best phone will be bettered, but the difference in camera between these two phones is absolutely insane.

It's made me consider - for the first time since the iPhone 3G - leaving the iPhone and exploring something new. It feels like other manufacturers aren't just dabbling in things that Apple end up doing better, but are legitimately getting there first with a superior product.

Has anyone else played with something that gives them pause for thought like this?

I have the P30, and yes, the back camera has more features than iPhones. And maybe the dual apps feature, but imo that’s about it. iPhone still wins in video recording quality. Apps are still superior imo on the iPhone. Front camera and especially in apps like Snapchat and instagram are superior on iPhone. Plus, it’s a Huawei so future OS updates are up in the air. Add on privacy issues, I think the iPhone carries a lot of different values than the Huawei.

But if what you’re looking for is only camera features on a phone to take pictures, then yes, the Huawei puts quite a great show.

 

[valinda]

I get tempted by Samsung’s note series. I did have a note 5. I currently have an S8 that I’ve had for almost 2 years now, but I use my XS most of the time. I have no problem using Android phones, my S8 still works good.

 

[fitcious]

No freaking ‘wei’

 

[johny328i]

There is a reason why Huawei took the 2nd place.

 

[The Game 161]

There is a reason why Huawei took the 2nd place.

For same reason why Samsung are so high they have so many low budget devices and are highly successful in china for example. They do great phones but the fiqures are abit flawed due to the devices apple sell comparision wise pricing. flagships sales apple still sells the most.

 

[Kram Sacul]

You might as well invest in the Titanic too.

 

[johny328i]

The only two things, that drive iPhone sales, are the US government and their fanbase.

Trump did ban them in the US, because in an year from now on, Huawei would have been first if they let them sell.

 

[Shanghaichica]

The hardware is great no doubt. However as things stand at the moment you’re not going to get any updates after August and it’s possible that whilst you still have access to the playstore some of your apps might stop working if they need authentication certificates from google which won’t be supplied. Unless you can get a Huwawei phone for a significantly reduced price. It’s not worth the risk at the moment imo.
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And the Galaxy S10+ is the fastest phone according to the same YouTube channel

When you actually have the phones in hand you really cannot tell the difference, I have used my bosses S10 and between the 3 there is not much. As I said before one will be faster than the other in some functions, but nothing mind blowing, what wins for the iPhone, IMO, is iOSs more mature and complete feeling, it’s a lot more consistent overall.

There isn’t much difference in day to day tasks such as opening and running apps on most of the top flagship phones. I think the extra horse power on the Apple chips will be seen in the way they can handle future OS updates. However for most people on a day to day basis most flagships are plenty fast.

 

[pika2000]

The only two things, that drive iPhone sales, are the US government and their fanbase.

Trump did ban them in the US, because in an year from now on, Huawei would have been first if they let them sell.

Oh please. Apple is hugely affected by the trade war as well as they have to figure out making iPhones outside China. Moving mass production of millions of iPhones in such a short time can cost them a fortune.

The huge benefactor is Samsung as they can reign Android world practically unchallenged. All the Chinese OEMs will be tip toeing as Trump can put them next on the list, while the old players like HtC and Sony have gone bye bye. Samsung is turning into the only major player in Android. This is why Google is afraid as well as they don’t really like Samsung.

 

[44267547]

If the P30 it’s tempting you way from the iPhone, it’s because you’re not devoted to the iOS ecosystem and/or you’re not partial to iOS altogether. The only reason someone makes a transition away from iOS, is if they’re not invested in the Apple ecosystem. Apples strong point Isn’t there hardware standards over Other tech companies, as the competition has been equally greatly improved, it’s the fluidity/stability and security of iOS, if those factors are not important to you, then accept Andoid being the lesser of value in that aspect.

 

[Tsepz]

Yeah, off-topic. Sorry. Last post on this...here is a discussion just a few months ago: https://forums.androidcentral.com/google-pixel-2-pixel-2-xl/957149-scuffed-back-camera-lens.html

Another: https://forums.androidcentral.com/ask-question/885395-why-my-rear-camera-blurry-foggy.html

Another: https://forums.androidcentral.com/a...mera-lens-will-affect-camera-performance.html

https://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-g6/786629-camera-scratches.html

Etc..

Old devices and one of the links is one person who has not even specified a phone either.

 

[alpi123]

Trump did ban them in the US, because in an year from now on, Huawei would have been first if they let them sell.

And there is a reason why he banned them, don't you think?

 

[Shanghaichica]

And there is a reason why he banned them, don't you think?

To get a better trade deal with China.

 

[Internaut]

I moved to the standard P20, last year. It’s a nice enough phone but I’d be wary of buying anything from Huawei right now. The nice thing about the Huawei? Over the year I’ve had it, Huawei have improved their imaging, via software update, to a level where it rivals Apple and Samsung quite nicely. However, there are drawbacks:

• Software updates not as frequent.
• Processing not as powerful as Huawei would like you to believe (the idea that Kirin comes close to Apple’s processors is, quite frankly, laughable).
• Equivalent apps often not as good.

However, if we approach the debate from the standpoint of “What does the device enable me to do?” then the difference isn’t that great.

Later in the year, I will probably pick up an XR or XS. At the moment, my other phone is an iPhone 7 - perfect for my corporate SIM.

 

[Newtons Apple]

Respecting privacy is nothing more than a marketing term these days, that includes Apple.

Maybe so but I still thing we are a bit safer in Apple’s environment when compared to Google’s Android.
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To get a better trade deal with China.

Not going to happen. No way Xi can capitulate as it would be a huge drain on their economy.

As far as stealing our data, China will not even admit they are doing it, even when caught red handed, so there is no way they will stop.

 

[johny328i]

Lol, so you think US and Apple don't do it?

 

[The.Glorious.Son]

Lol, so you think US and Apple don't do it?

Do what? Who are you even talking to?

 

[jeremiah256]

Respecting privacy is nothing more than a marketing term these days, that includes Apple.

Marketing != False information.

Yes, Tim Cook is pushing privacy as a differentiator to Apple's advantage. Yes, people may negate the privacy protections built into the iPhone and iOS by loading certain third party apps on their devices. But, for Apple, actual privacy and security = $$$$. Lots of it. Healthcare alone is going to bring in mountains of money for Apple.

With their custom hardware, operating system, services, and reputation, Apple has both a branding and real world competitive advantage over everyone else when it comes to privacy linked to consumer equipment.

 

[buran-energia]

No such thing as privacy. Information is power. The information that Apple and Google have on everybody is too lucrative not to analyze for various purposes. I'm sure Apple and Google are both connected to the NSA/US government and have signed NDAs. The news where you see that Apple is fighting off FBI or US government over unlocking someone else's phone is just a show and a PR stunt. (Snowden's docs should have a proof or two.)

With that said, I do think Apple is the lesser evil in this regard, as their business relies on mostly selling their hardware and they don't have a need to collect data aggressively.

 

[pika2000]

No such thing as privacy. Information is power. The information that Apple and Google have on everybody is too lucrative not to analyze for various purposes. I'm sure Apple and Google are both connected to the NSA/US government and have signed NDAs. The news where you see that Apple is fighting off FBI or US government over unlocking someone else's phone is just a show and a PR stunt. (Snowden's docs should have a proof or two.)

PR? When going against the FBI, Apple is risking their company to be under total meltdown from the government. Other CEOs would have already backed down. Why would Apple risk all that just for PR? Tin foil hat is something, but there’s no tin foil in business, and Apple going against the FBI was a huge risk as a business, yet Apple decided to do it.

 

[buran-energia]

PR? When going against the FBI, Apple is risking their company to be under total meltdown from the government. Other CEOs would have already backed down. Why would Apple risk all that just for PR? Tin foil hat is something, but there’s no tin foil in business, and Apple going against the FBI was a huge risk as a business, yet Apple decided to do it.

The benefit for Apple is that it shows that they care about your privacy and that not even US government can access your iPhone (even though it turned out later that some "Israeli hacking company" apparently can). It shows that they are willing to legally fight the US government over your info. If you think this is all conspiracy, that Apple really doesn't hand over what the government asks, be it the info about 1 user, or a cable connected to all the database, then you should take a look at some of the Snowden's docs and see for yourself how this world actually works. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Even the FBI benefited from this by giving people this false sense of security and making it seem like their privacy is respected.

 

[igroeg]

No such thing as privacy. Information is power. The information that Apple and Google have on everybody is too lucrative not to analyze for various purposes. I'm sure Apple and Google are both connected to the NSA/US government and have signed NDAs. The news where you see that Apple is fighting off FBI or US government over unlocking someone else's phone is just a show and a PR stunt. (Snowden's docs should have a proof or two.)

With that said, I do think Apple is the lesser evil in this regard, as their business relies on mostly selling their hardware and they don't have a need to collect data aggressively.

The voice of reason. Have a like.

 

[Dreads]

Surely if you use social media apps your security is out the window anyways,,,,! No matter how secure your phone is...

 

[Aydy]

I kinda feel like privacy is somewhere middle to bottom on my smartphone musts list. I get the importance and all but the phone has to sell me on features & hardware first. I can appreciate the privacy later.