iPad The Truth...this design will have more initial returns and repairs...

[RevTEG]

Shouldn’t need big case to protect from bending from normal use. Has Apple taking any stance on this yet? They have exchanged iPads under AppleCare from bending in the past.

I wouldn’t use a big case. Never have and most likely never will. It’s an option though. I just buy Apple Care and Apples case or cover. My gen three 12.9 lives in my Tumi backpack when I’m not using it, just like all the past iPads have. If the design fails from normal use, I’ll get Apple to fix it. It it fails from something I do to it then I’ll save up and replace it. Apples track record with design hasn’t caused me to over think their current one.

 

[The Game 161]

Very unlikely

The average person likely wouldn’t notice and would just carry on like with the LTE issue

 

[Krayzkat]

Maybe I’m wrong, but isn’t the whole point of making iPhones and iPads so thin, is so that we can put protective cases on them, that can be interchangeable and replaced if damaged, and therefore keeping the devices in their cases not too bulky

 

[aevan]

than any iPad in its history.

I work in a plant that has extensive CNC milling and lathe operations and took mine in for some second opinions on the form factor and structural inspection... long story short, was told to send it back for full refund while I can cause the $80 cheap Apple case wasn’t gong to help with keeping it safe with it being so flimsy. Also they think putting the magnets in it may be a problem with so little structural integrity. Now this is MY finding and opinion on the matter, if you don’t agree that’s fine, I’m good with how I got full refunds and moved on.

If only Apple engineers had access to a plant with extensive CNC milling operations.... They could’ve been given second opinions about the form factor and magnets. After a structural inspection, of course.

 

[AlexJoda]

The problem as I see is being so flimsy with the bad design is that the kind of case that will truly protect it will negate the whole purpose they were trying to make the thinnest tablet.

Seriously you will need hard encased covers to supplement the structure which will make it thicker than the 10.5 with Smart Cover in the end

It is already thicker and heavier with the flimsy Smart Folio/Keyboard than the 2017 iPPs with Smart Case/Keyboard. That is totally absurd and kills the whole concept of the „thinnest and lightest“ iPads....

 

[aevan]

Well, In my research, the new 12.9 flexes much greater and easier than the 2nd gen 12.9. I believe the new 12.9 will continue to suffer with bending reports and it may be that apple will fix this issue with their 2019 offering. This issue also occurred with the 6+ and we all know that apple fixed that issue in the 6s+.

And what research is that?

 

[Greenmeenie]

It’s only wafer thin...

[doublepost=1544053553][/doublepost]I think the problem with all you bendgaters is that y’all are thinking waaaay too much. None of my artist friends have experienced any bending issues whatsoever. And they are always traveling with them. I dunno. If it’s not for you, that’s fine. But I think you are exaggerating a tad about these bending fears. I just wanted those who haven’t bought one yet to know that you are definitely in the minority concerning the new iPad Pros. Nobody I know who has the new iPad Pro is worried at all about bending it.

 

[Raist3001]

And what research is that?

Is this a serious question, or are you being sarcastic? If it's the latter, I won't be playing your game.

 

[Otflyer]

It’s only wafer thin...

[doublepost=1544053553][/doublepost]I think the problem with all you bendgaters is that y’all are thinking waaaay too much. None of my artist friends have experienced any bending issues whatsoever. And they are always traveling with them. I dunno. If it’s not for you, that’s fine. But I think you are exaggerating a tad about these bending fears. I just wanted those who haven’t bought one yet to know that you are definitely in the minority concerning the new iPad Pros. Nobody I know who has the new iPad Pro is worried at all about bending it.

I’m not!

 

[aevan]

Is this a serious question, or are you being sarcastic? If it's the latter, I won't be playing your game.

A serious question, because research in this case would imply a scientific approach. Either you measured the bending force on both models in a controlled environment or you made a computer simulation or something (or, since you say it’s much easier to bend the new one, I assume you at least tried to bend both yourself and detected a noticeable difference in effort). I was wondering if you really did the research or just read something online and came to a subjective conclusion. It’s an honest question.

 

[Raist3001]

A serious question, because research in this case would imply a scientific approach. Either you measured the bending force on both models in a controlled environment or you made a computer simulation or something (or, since you say it’s much easier to bend the new one, I assume you at least tried to bend both yourself and detected a noticeable difference in effort). I was wondering if you really did the research or just read something online and came to a subjective conclusion. It’s an honest question.

Thanks for expanding on your initial question. Very easy to misinterpret an honest question around here.
Yes I did try bending both the 2017 iPad Pro and the 2018 iPad Pro. I used my own personal 2017 Pro and a friends 2018 Pro who also wanted to see how easily the Pro might bend. My 2017 Pro certainly flexed when a lot of pressure was applied. However, it did go back to its original shape. I panicked when I heard what I thought was glass cracking, but I do not see any cracks or splinters. And I can't see any bend. The 2018 Pro bent much easier with less force, and did not go back to its original shape. There was definitely a noticeable slight bend. And I mean slight. But it's there.

I don't subject my iPad to back packs, nor do I make it a habit of sitting on my iPad. I would guess that anyone who reasonably takes care of their iPad should not have any bending issues. However, for the more rougher treatments, bending may occur a bit more easily then prior years.

 

[aevan]

Thanks for expanding on your initial question. Very easy to misinterpret an honest question around here.
Yes I did try bending both the 2017 iPad Pro and the 2018 iPad Pro. I used my own personal 2017 Pro and a friends 2018 Pro who also wanted to see how easily the Pro might bend. My 2017 Pro certainly flexed when a lot of pressure was applied. However, it did go back to its original shape. I panicked when I heard what I thought was glass cracking, but I do not see any cracks or splinters. And I can't see any bend. The 2018 Pro bent much easier with less force, and did not go back to its original shape. There was definitely a noticeable slight bend. And I mean slight. But it's there.

I don't subject my iPad to back packs, nor do I make it a habit of sitting on my iPad. I would guess that anyone who reasonably takes care of their iPad should not have any bending issues. However, for the more rougher treatments, bending may occur a bit more easily then prior years.

Wow. You actually bent your iPad intentionally? And your friend let you bend theirs? Not doubting you, it’s just - you have some loyal friends there. And no, this is not sarcasm, I believe you.

Please don’t bend anymore iPads, even in the name of science

 

[Raist3001]

Wow. You actually bent your iPad intentionally? And your friend let you bend theirs? Not doubting you, it’s just - you have some loyal friends there. And no, this is not sarcasm, I believe you.

Please don’t bend anymore iPads, even in the name of science

Had mine bent, I would have probably upgraded

"I am not sure how it happened honey, but I need a new iPad now"

My buddy on the other hand, actually swapped his Pro with a new one using his apple care. Not moral, I know.

 

[mikemj23]

Had mine bent, I would have probably upgraded

"I am not sure how it happened honey, but I need a new iPad now"

My buddy on the other hand, actually swapped his Pro with a new one using his apple care. Not moral, I know.

I'm sorry, and I'm not trying to be argumentative here, but why on earth would you do this? Just to prove a point on a message board? Just doesn't sound even remotely reasonable to me. Again, you and your buddy paid for and can do whatever you please with your iPads and there may be an issue with them bending, but I just don't get trying to intentionally bend them.

 

[inhalexhale1]

It’s ok I’m not waiting on new, probably going with a 10.5

Next release will be better for sure

For sure.

 

[aevan]

For sure.

Yes, the new one has the same amount of RAM as the last year’s one - so it’s basically an identical device.
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I'm sorry, and I'm not trying to be argumentative here, but why on earth would you do this? Just to prove a point on a message board? Just doesn't sound even remotely reasonable to me. Again, you and your buddy paid for and can do whatever you please with your iPads and there may be an issue with them bending, but I just don't get trying to intentionally bend them.

But.... will it bend?

 

[Raist3001]

I'm sorry, and I'm not trying to be argumentative here, but why on earth would you do this? Just to prove a point on a message board? Just doesn't sound even remotely reasonable to me. Again, you and your buddy paid for and can do whatever you please with your iPads and there may be an issue with them bending, but I just don't get trying to intentionally bend them.

Why are there a myriad of youtubers that do bend tests? Scratch tests? Durability tests?
However, I wasn't trying to prove anything to anyone. I was curious. It is as simple as that

 

[jsmith1]

What’s funny is that sounds to me just because it’s Apple, the design was right and the manufacturing was right.

Show of hands....has anyone here ever been to a manufacturing plant in China? I have many times, our company in the end had to pull all offshore manufacturing back due to quality issues no matter how many were sent to oversee operations.

If this had been a regulated industry, probably would be under recall with so many defects. Hopefully the next release will have the design and manufacturing bugs worked out but sadly I think Apple has turned the page to quanity over quality.....which is fine if products were half the price they are but not at these prices.

Carry on...please keep the defect posts coming so they get them all worked out.

 

[Jimx26]

So you don't like the new ipad? Cool.

Truth.

 

[jsmith1]

If only Apple engineers had access to a plant with extensive CNC milling operations.... They could’ve been given second opinions about the form factor and magnets. After a structural inspection, of course.

Lolol... I have to laugh at people that blindly think just because you are big company you can’t have design flaws and manufacturing problems....glad that Apple came out and admitted it. Saying it’s ok is even funnier, well unless you have one, as I’ve said before, not acceptable and lucky for them this industry isn’t subject to recall.

They need to get back to less products of high quality and forget trying to break the bank!

 

[charlituna]

than any iPad in its history.

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or it won't. because it's a common situation that folks with negative views and negative situations will always speak and both often and loudly. and those with no issues rarely to never bother to tell about their experience. so who knows if all these problems are 99% or 1%

 

[aevan]

Lolol... I have to laugh at people that blindly think just because you are big company you can’t have design flaws and manufacturing problems....glad that Apple came out and admitted it. Saying it’s ok is even funnier, well unless you have one, as I’ve said before, not acceptable and lucky for them this industry isn’t subject to recall.

They need to get back to less products of high quality and forget trying to break the bank!

Sure they can. But not this time. A few cases of bent iPads out of the box, but that’s it. And yes, hey, they “admited it”. Most people have no issues and love the product. Of course there won’t be a recall. Guess there won’t be more of those initial returns and repairs after all.... the truth.

 

[jsmith1]

Sure they can. But not this time. A few cases of bent iPads out of the box, but that’s it. And yes, hey, they “admited it”. Most people have no issues and love the product. Of course there won’t be a recall. Guess there won’t be more of those initial returns and repairs after all.... the truth.

Lol, says the person that no clue such a big company called “ Apple “ could possibly have design and manufacturing problems....once again, you have no clue as to how many returns and repairs will be as a result of this design and production fallout, only Apple will know that and the fact that they have admitted it will only help in returns and getting it right for next release of the PRO.....actual Truth

 

[jimmy_uk]

Sure they can. But not this time. A few cases of bent iPads out of the box, but that’s it. And yes, hey, they “admited it”. Most people have no issues and love the product. Of course there won’t be a recall. Guess there won’t be more of those initial returns and repairs after all.... the truth.

If it was only "a few" examples of defects then we wouldn't see a response from Apple in the media because this is how they've acted in the past. The difference this time is Apple knew about bending during manufacturing but didn't think it was a problem so they're happy to stand by this and have commented to this effect. And maybe only to get ahead of any further negative press or damage to the dropping share price.

 

[MDePew24]

Sounds good. I have had nothing but good luck with my 11inch iPad Pro. I have the keyboard folio and take extreme caution with my devices. Never broken a screen or had as much as a chip out of any Apple devices.