There can be only one...Samsung S5 vs iPhone 6

[kevinof]

Of course it's highly subjective. It's like cars. You buy one type and I buy another. Both work as cars but we have different needs and therefore choose differently.

I have both Ios and Android devices and have had them since the HTC Hero (remember that one!) and the first iphone. For the last 2 years I've basically stuck to android on my phone and ios on the tablet. For ME that works. There are some restrictions (attachments, storage, default apps , widget etc) on Ios that make it (for me ) unsuitable as my handset.

For the tablet ios is great. It's lovely and fluid and I have it by the sofa and it gets lot of use.

Both work great for me but also work differently.

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My question is what is so special about Android that would make me consider it over an iPhone? I'm guessing the answer to that will be highly subjective.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Of course it's highly subjective. It's like cars. You buy one type and I buy another. Both work as cars but we have different needs and therefore choose differently.

I have both Ios and Android devices and have had them since the HTC Hero (remember that one!) and the first iphone. For the last 2 years I've basically stuck to android on my phone and ios on the tablet. For ME that works. There are some restrictions (attachments, storage, default apps , widget etc) on Ios that make it (for me ) unsuitable as my handset.

For the tablet ios is great. It's lovely and fluid and I have it by the sofa and it gets lot of use.

Both work great for me but also work differently.

I remember the HTC Hero well, I owned one in bronze back in 2009. Before that I had the HTC Tattoo and before that I had the HTC Dream (G1). I owned Android devices before many of my friends and associates had heard of it and were still using Nokia's and Samsung D900's lol. My last Android phone was the Galaxy S3 before I jumped across to iOS in 2012. I am well aware of what Android can do but for me I have found the user experience on the iPhone to be better for my needs and more enjoyable to use. That is just me though.

 

[AustinIllini]

I remember the HTC Hero well, I owned one in bronze back in 2009. Before that I had the HTC Tattoo and before that I had the HTC Dream (G1). I owned Android devices before many of my friends and associates had heard of it and were still using Nokia's and Samsung D900's lol. My last Android phone was the Galaxy S3 before I jumped across to iOS in 2012. I am well aware of what Android can do but for me I have found the user experience on the iPhone to be better for my needs and more enjoyable to use. That is just me though.

Curse Verizon! Was the Hero the Droid Incredible? The Desire was the Droid Eres. I had a Motorola Milesone for a while.

I've actually had as many Androids as iPhones. I fall in the same group as you do. I feel the iOS experience is more consistent for my needs.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Curse Verizon! Was the Hero the Droid Incredible? The Desire was the Droid Eres. I had a Motorola Milesone for a while.

I've actually had as many Androids as iPhones. I fall in the same group as you do. I feel the iOS experience is more consistent for my needs.

The Droid Incredible would have been after the Hero I think. I had a HTC Incredible S in 2011 and that looked very similar so perhaps it was a regional variation? I'm in the UK so I think we get different version's. The Hero I had was bent, but deliberately of course lol. The worse Android phone I had was the Desire HD. It had a big screen for its day but dire battery life!

 

[AustinIllini]

The Droid Incredible would have been after the Hero I think. I had a HTC Incredible S in 2011 and that looked very similar so perhaps it was a regional variation? I'm in the UK so I think we get different version's. The Hero I had was bent, but deliberately of course lol. The worse Android phone I had was the Desire HD. It had a big screen for its day but dire battery life!

Back before Android 4.0, this was the reality of Android. Battery life was poor across the board and some OEMs made it worse as early LTE adopters. It wasn't until Motorola realized iPhones were selling without LTE because of better battery life that phones like the Droid Razr Max really started to shift the thought process to battery life over pure performance.

 

[jrswizzle]

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What is real work? Surf the web, receive an email, open an app to do stuff...well we can do these on both platforms.

But the problem with ios a lot of the times you have to beat around the bush to get things done...sharing, email attachments, loading files or just having shortcuts to anything from anywhere. .. and many more.

Getting work done also means having the phone do automatically for you. On android you can do lots of automation like auto send Sms or changing the ring volume based on events and many more...none which you can do on ios.

My guess is you just don't know how to accomplish these tasks on iOS.....since I do not either, I'm not going to get into an argument about it. Since my comfort level with iOS is very high, I actually felt similarly about Android when I switched - I felt like I needed to go through work arounds for things that just worked on my iPhone.

iOS isn't perfect - and if you're coming from a different system, you'd likely have to adapt to the way things work. But the same holds moving the other way (I encountered this many times) and really it holds for making any OS migration.

My problem is with the inherent flaw in the "real work" argument. As you point out - what is "real work". That phrase means something different to everyone, which is why it can't and shouldn't be used when comparing these two OSes.

Because if you do, you belittle someone who is doing their "real work" on an iOS device.

I'm a Sales Executive. Real work for me is lots of phone calls, conference calls/video conferencing, salesforce, emails, text messages, marketing materials, RFPs, sometime VPN in remote. I can handle all of these easily on my iOS devices. My job isn't the most technologically demanding, but that doesn't mean I can't get "real work" done on my iPhone.

 

[jrswizzle]

When you put it like that then I would give you some pointers to think about?
Hmm. ...Superior device experience like
- centralized settings which takes ridiculous number of steps
-locked down silo data architecture. Need to duplicate every file for every apps that need them. And your valuable data will be wiped if you uninstall the app.
- crippled attachment capability in email
-very slow scrolling compared to android.
-can't do shortcuts. On android I can make shortcuts to anything.
- can't do simple things like pressing the home button to answer call.
....and the list goes on and on and on.....

If this list goes "on and on and on" you should've picked some of those other examples because many of these are garbage....

-locked down silo data: iCloud Drive changes this - no more duplicated files across apps, no more deleting files with the apps. You can cross this one off.
-Slow scrolling: Scrolling isn't slower, its just different. Longer, more consistent swipes yield a faster scroll speed versus just swiping as fast as possible. Also, I can simply tap the status bar to go back to the top....which in my experience trumps any difference in scroll speed.
-Shortcuts for....what exactly? Pretty much anything I need/do on my iPhone is no more than 3 taps away.
-Why would I press the home button to answer a call when the "answer call button" is prominently displayed right on the screen? How many Android devices even HAVE physical home buttons anymore?

 

[mib1800]

If this list goes "on and on and on" you should've picked some of those other examples because many of these are garbage....

-locked down silo data: iCloud Drive changes this - no more duplicated files across apps, no more deleting files with the apps. You can cross this one off.
-Slow scrolling: Scrolling isn't slower, its just different. Longer, more consistent swipes yield a faster scroll speed versus just swiping as fast as possible. Also, I can simply tap the status bar to go back to the top....which in my experience trumps any difference in scroll speed.
-Shortcuts for....what exactly? Pretty much anything I need/do on my iPhone is no more than 3 taps away.
-Why would I press the home button to answer a call when the "answer call button" is prominently displayed right on the screen? How many Android devices even HAVE physical home buttons anymore?

-Icloud drive? Great. Suck your expensive valuable data and battery and leave gigabytes of your phone storage unused. Alos not practical for certain files. But android can do cloud drive as well. I can map all my cloud drives (google, db, sky etc) in my file manager and use them like local drives. See I told you android does it better.

-Tap to top is just way over rated. Tap to bottom is more useful. If you say to move the same scroll distance using 3 times more swipes on your iphone is as good....then you have pretty low threshold on what good is. Maybe that's why you find the iPhone so good...

- 3 taps to do anything. Who are you trying to kid?

- Tapping home button to answer call is an additional alternative isn't it. It is very useful when I want to answer a call quickly when the phone is in my pocket. I can get the work done in any circumstances. Iphone cant get the work done in this scenario.

 

[pdqgp]

My question is what is so special about Android that would make me consider it over an iPhone? I'm guessing the answer to that will be highly subjective.

depends on your needs. for me it's about my controlling the phone and how it behaves and using it the way I want to use it.

if I can't have a phone perform how I want it to perform or do things the way I want it, then is it really a smart phone?

iOS has far more limitations and customizing it to work the way I need it to. In many cases there are things it simply can't do and all in all these are the reasons I chose Android over iOS.

 

[mib1800]

My guess is you just don't know how to accomplish these tasks on iOS.....since I do not either, I'm not going to get into an argument about it. Since my comfort level with iOS is very high, I actually felt similarly about Android when I switched - I felt like I needed to go through work arounds for things that just worked on my iPhone.

iOS isn't perfect - and if you're coming from a different system, you'd likely have to adapt to the way things work. But the same holds moving the other way (I encountered this many times) and really it holds for making any OS migration.

My problem is with the inherent flaw in the "real work" argument. As you point out - what is "real work". That phrase means something different to everyone, which is why it can't and shouldn't be used when comparing these two OSes.

Because if you do, you belittle someone who is doing their "real work" on an iOS device.

I'm a Sales Executive. Real work for me is lots of phone calls, conference calls/video conferencing, salesforce, emails, text messages, marketing materials, RFPs, sometime VPN in remote. I can handle all of these easily on my iOS devices. My job isn't the most technologically demanding, but that doesn't mean I can't get "real work" done on my iPhone.

True that real work definition is different for everyone. I am not debating on that. But more can be done with android.

For me a simple basic like having the phone auto on vibrate mode during meeting events in my calendar can't be done on iphone. Don't even mention something advance like when I put the phone in the car phone cradle with a preprogrammed nfc tag the phone auto on BT, put the phone in driving mode, open map and start the music player as well as send a predefined sms to someone.

I know many will say ... "I don't need these capabilities" in defense of iPhone. But the fact is that Android allows you to explore hundreds of possibilities that are not possible on iphone. You may find some that will tremendously improve your real work. The reverse is not true as I can't really find anything that can be done on iphone that cannot be done on my note3.

 

[RickTaylor]

For me a simple basic like having the phone auto on vibrate mode during meeting events in my calendar can't be done on iphone.

I think you can do that through a jailbreak. I'm not arguing against your general point, something that basic shouldn't require a jailbreak, but mentioning it here in case someone is looking for that.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

depends on your needs. for me it's about my controlling the phone and how it behaves and using it the way I want to use it.

if I can't have a phone perform how I want it to perform or do things the way I want it, then is it really a smart phone?

iOS has far more limitations and customizing it to work the way I need it to. In many cases there are things it simply can't do and all in all these are the reasons I chose Android over iOS.

My question was pretty much a rhetorical one as I stated at the end that the answer would be subjective to the individual.

You're right we all have different needs. However to answer your question about whether a smartphone is really a smartphone if you can't do all the things you want, then I would be inclined to say that it is not as simple as that. Smartphones were given that name because they contain many of the basic features your computer would have and this distinguishes them from standard feature phones. Both Android and iPhone's allow users to perform the commonly demanded tasks so yes they are both technically smartphones. Your niche/advanced tastes don't dictate whether or not a device can be called something or not. We couldn't suggest a Window's phone is not a smartphone because it doesn't have an as comprehensive app store as it two main rivals, hence not allowing some users to do everything they wish to do. That would be absurd and dismissive because its a variation and many people choose it IMO.

What you have is choice and you have chosen to base all your needs on an operating system that allows you to do what you want to do. Counting back I think I have owned 6 Android handsets dating back to 2009 so I am fully aware of what Android is capable of. I have just ultimately chosen a different method of meeting my smartphone needs than yourself. Neither of us are wrong and it would be stupid to suggest one OS is inferior to the other in a universal sense simply because it doesn't meet all our needs. They both have pro's and con's and both have features the other doesn't. It 'depends on our needs'.

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-Tap to top is just way over rated. Tap to bottom is more useful. If you say to move the same scroll distance using 3 times more swipes on your iphone is as good....then you have pretty low threshold on what good is. Maybe that's why you find the iPhone so good...

That is rather ironic isn't it? Tap to the top is overated because you don't rate it but tap to the bottom is good because its more useful in your opinion? Hmmm, watch you don't get your foot caught in the holes from those moved goal posts. I don't think the low threshold talk was really needed there, especially with the smiley at the end for added condescending merit. I know you quoted somebody else but its unpleasant to read when a sensible discussion is devalued with crass generalisations.

Its clear everybody's needs are different and nobody really needs to be convinced. I haven't read anything here that convinces me I would like to try Android again any time soon and I don't expect to convert anybody to my way of thinking.

 

[l3uddz]

When you put it like that then I would give you some pointers to think about?
Hmm. ...Superior device experience like
- centralized settings which takes ridiculous number of steps
-locked down silo data architecture. Need to duplicate every file for every apps that need them. And your valuable data will be wiped if you uninstall the app.
- crippled attachment capability in email
-very slow scrolling compared to android.
-can't do shortcuts. On android I can make shortcuts to anything.
- can't do simple things like pressing the home button to answer call.
....and the list goes on and on and on.....

You forgot....
Can't control my non smart tv when I can't find the tv remote lol..
Can't download music/videos without the use of a computer
Can't edit music tags/album artwork without computer.
Can't download torrents/nzbs
Can't auto perform tasks (e.g. silent on/off) based on lots of different things (e.g. Location)
Can't install adblockers to block those annoying ads in web browser pages
Can't use TOR
Can't transfer music to friends phone via Bluetooth/nfc/wifi
Can't use nfc tags
There's loads....

However the iPhone isn't a bad device, it's just too locked down for my own needs however I have no issues with other people using the iPhone, it's definitely simpler to use which I think plays a big part in its popularity besides it just being an Apple device.

 

[pdqgp]

My question was pretty much a rhetorical one as I stated at the end that the answer would be subjective to the individual.

You're right we all have different needs. However to answer your question about whether a smartphone is really a smartphone if you can't do all the things you want, then I would be inclined to say that it is not as simple as that...... We couldn't suggest a Window's phone is not a smartphone because it doesn't have an as comprehensive app store as it two main rivals, hence not allowing some users to do everything they wish to do. That would be absurd and dismissive because its a variation and many people choose it IMO.

Fair enough. Then I'll simply say that in the end Androids are the smarter phone as is does offer far more capability and true personalization to how each individual would want it to work. Users can keep it basic and simple like an iPhone or they can fully customize their experience.

They both have pro's and con's and both have features the other doesn't. It 'depends on our needs'.

True but Android does offer more regardless of our individual needs.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Fair enough. Then I'll simply say that in the end Androids are the smarter phone as is does offer far more capability and true personalization to how each individual would want it to work. Users can keep it basic and simple like an iPhone or they can fully customize their experience.

True but Android does offer more regardless of our individual needs.

If somebody wants customisation then Android is the way to go. I enjoyed customising all my Android phone's and found myself changing them weekly because I got bored or found I'd laid things out in a messy fashion. I like the fact you can't mess around too much with iOS. I change the wallpaper from time to time and have all my favourite apps on one screen. I realised that was all I needed. I think that is perhaps a reason the iPhone is popular too because it is simplistic. The more techy types enjoy fiddling and exploring new interfaces, however I don't know enough people like that.

I'm an industrial designer by trade so I appreciate simplicity in an OS. The iPhone does all the things the average person needs which is why its interesting to see it judged based on the more advanced demands. Many of the examples I have seen here for why Android is better are things I would probably do on my computer rather than my mobile phone. Choice is great though and like with anything, its down to the individual to weigh up what is important for them.

 

[kevinof]

What has it got to do with customisation? It's about lacking what a lot of people call basic functionality. I have my phone set up the same way for about 6 months now. It hasn't changed and wont change as it works the way I want it to. It has a couple of mail widgets so I can easily track the activity on a couple of accounts, it has a calendar widget so I can plan ahead, google now to the left, an a page for travel stuff as I am always either on a plane or train somewhere.

I simply can not get Ios to work that way. If I need to quickly check an email account I have to open the email app and look (too many emails for the notifications to handle). Same with the travel page where I can group widgets and apps together for easy access to my plane tickets, train times, hotel bookings etc). Can't get that basic functionality with ios.

So it's nothing to do with tinkering or this rom or that rom or changing wallpapers or whatever. It's setting the phone up once so that it works how I want it to work so that it makes my life easier. IOS works fine on my tablet but then again I don't carry the tablet with me, it doesn't sit in my pocket and I don't take it out for quick glances of what's happening.

Yes IOS is simple and for me that's it's downfall. It's been reduced to the lowest common denominator (the average Joe) which means that anyone wanting anything outside of this is just out of luck.

If somebody wants customisation then Android is the way to go. I enjoyed customising all my Android phone's and found myself changing them weekly because I got bored or found I'd laid things out in a messy fashion. I like the fact you can't mess around too much with iOS. I change the wallpaper from time to time and have all my favourite apps on one screen. I realised that was all I needed. I think that is perhaps a reason the iPhone is popular too because it is simplistic. The more techy types enjoy fiddling and exploring new interfaces, however I don't know enough people like that.

I'm an industrial designer by trade so I appreciate simplicity in an OS. The iPhone does all the things the average person needs which is why its interesting to see it judged based on the more advanced demands. Many of the examples I have seen here for why Android is better are things I would probably do on my computer rather than my mobile phone. Choice is great though and like with anything, its down to the individual to weigh up what is important for them.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

What has it got to do with customisation? It's about lacking what a lot of people call basic functionality. I have my phone set up the same way for about 6 months now. It hasn't changed and wont change as it works the way I want it to. It has a couple of mail widgets so I can easily track the activity on a couple of accounts, it has a calendar widget so I can plan ahead, google now to the left, an a page for travel stuff as I am always either on a plane or train somewhere.

I simply can not get Ios to work that way. If I need to quickly check an email account I have to open the email app and look (too many emails for the notifications to handle). Same with the travel page where I can group widgets and apps together for easy access to my plane tickets, train times, hotel bookings etc). Can't get that basic functionality with ios.

So it's nothing to do with tinkering or this rom or that rom or changing wallpapers or whatever. It's setting the phone up once so that it works how I want it to work so that it makes my life easier. IOS works fine on my tablet but then again I don't carry the tablet with me, it doesn't sit in my pocket and I don't take it out for quick glances of what's happening.

Yes IOS is simple and for me that's it's downfall. It's been reduced to the lowest common denominator (the average Joe) which means that anyone wanting anything outside of this is just out of luck.

I don't know what to say, good for you. You've got a phone that works well for your needs and I have a phone that works for mine. You don't need to convince me you've made the best choice for yourself, its just your complaints for iOS are not negatives for me. Enjoy your phone.

 

[pdqgp]

I don't know what to say, good for you. You've got a phone that works well for your needs and I have a phone that works for mine. You don't need to convince me you've made the best choice for yourself, its just your complaints for iOS are not negatives for me. Enjoy your phone.

I think his point is to just reaffirm that the customizations of Android around the Look and cosmetics of it all are minor but the true power and difference with Android is around the customizing of functionality. Apps like Llama and Tasker are awesome.

 

[Sensamic]

I find the SGS5 better in most aspects than the new iPhones. It's not all about the hardware. All the things I can do on Android are the biggest selling point here.

Aside from that, the SGS5 has better battery and replaceable, 4K video recording, waterproof, capacitive buttons, microSD slot, better NFC and BT, perfect display size, USB 3.0, etc.

Add to the hardware Android and you got a perfect match: third party keyboards that work as they should with great predictions and all, a true file system browser, ultra power saving mode, true multitasking, etc.

It's just the most powerful device of the two.

It's got it all: the open software that allows you to do almost anything you need and top of the end hardware.

 

[jrswizzle]

-Icloud drive? Great. Suck your expensive valuable data and battery and leave gigabytes of your phone storage unused. Alos not practical for certain files. But android can do cloud drive as well. I can map all my cloud drives (google, db, sky etc) in my file manager and use them like local drives. See I told you android does it better.

What? You complained about duplicate files. iCloud drive eliminates it.

I don't even have to TOUCH local drives. Or any drives. My files are organized automatically. I don't care about going in a moving things around.

Photos are in my Photos app, Music in my Music app etc. It's not difficult. If I want to pull a file into another app, iCloud drive allows said app to pull the file from the cloud so I don't have to save an additional copy. I can open that file in any app - as easy as opening the app, and tapping the file.

-Tap to top is just way over rated. Tap to bottom is more useful. If you say to move the same scroll distance using 3 times more swipes on your iphone is as good....then you have pretty low threshold on what good is. Maybe that's why you find the iPhone so good...

I disagree. I don't have any desire to skip to the bottom of a story or article I'm reading. Whereas when I'm done, I ALWAYS want to skip back to the top.

And it doesn't take 3x as many swipes....if you know what you're doing and not just frantically swiping. But it doesn't seem like you know or care to know how many things work in iOS.

- 3 taps to do anything. Who are you trying to kid?

Oh there are some settings that I rarely use that take more. But I'm never really more than 3 taps from anything. I'm not trying to kid anyone. Just the way it is.

- Tapping home button to answer call is an additional alternative isn't it. It is very useful when I want to answer a call quickly when the phone is in my pocket. I can get the work done in any circumstances. Iphone cant get the work done in this scenario.

You answer the phone while it's in your pocket? Please, enlighten me....

On second thought.....I know your shtick, so don't bother trying to "enlighten" me.....all I'll get is fingers in ears, "la la la la la la la, Android is better, la la la la la".

 

[mib1800]

What? You complained about duplicate files. iCloud drive eliminates it.

I don't even have to TOUCH local drives. Or any drives. My files are organized automatically. I don't care about going in a moving things around.

Photos are in my Photos app, Music in my Music app etc. It's not difficult. If I want to pull a file into another app, iCloud drive allows said app to pull the file from the cloud so I don't have to save an additional copy. I can open that file in any app - as easy as opening the app, and tapping the file.



I disagree. I don't have any desire to skip to the bottom of a story or article I'm reading. Whereas when I'm done, I ALWAYS want to skip back to the top.

And it doesn't take 3x as many swipes....if you know what you're doing and not just frantically swiping. But it doesn't seem like you know or care to know how many things work in iOS.



Oh there are some settings that I rarely use that take more. But I'm never really more than 3 taps from anything. I'm not trying to kid anyone. Just the way it is.



You answer the phone while it's in your pocket? Please, enlighten me....

On second thought.....I know your shtick, so don't bother trying to "enlighten" me.....all I'll get is fingers in ears, "la la la la la la la, Android is better, la la la la la".

with iCloud don't you still download the file to local silo folder first before use? Why the heck I want to do that for every app that uses those files? Gets more ridiculous if those are huge files. Like I say waste data, time and battery.

Jump back to top is more useful than jump bottom? Are you really out of it that you need to use twisted logic in defense? I finished reading the last post on this page then I move on to the next page. Why the heck anyone would want to go back to the top?

In ios while in an app press home then find settings icon then tap settings then scroll and scroll to find settings for the app (heck wait..what was the name of the app again !!) then change settings then double press home then tap the app you were in. You must have got A in maths since your counting is so good or you must have got mixed up with android where I just tap menu then settings then change..3 steps exact

When the phone rings and you are busy like walking or looking at something else, I grab the phone in my pocket press the home without needing to look at the screen and put the phone straight to my ear in one move. Very real world usage scenario...way better that your excuse to tap to go to top. Who is the la la la...ing here?

 

[yaboyac29]

what i love is that iPhone users are always just chillin and using their iPhone.

android users, however, are trying to convince the entire universe that the iPhone is not the phone to get. whether it be in real life, on macrumors, engadget, any other message board or in person.

how about stop being so insecure with your purchase? we don't care what you prefer.

android users are just as bad in person.

 

[Technarchy]

what i love is that iPhone users are always just chillin and using their iPhone.

android users, however, are trying to convince the entire universe that the iPhone is not the phone to get. whether it be in real life, on macrumors, engadget, any other message board or in person.

how about stop being so insecure with your purchase? we don't care what you prefer.

android users are just as bad in person.

It's often been said that android owners care far more about iPhone users than vice versa, and I would say that's true.

As you said, Apple users tend to go about their business of user their Apple products.

Personally I track both because I love tech toys, but I tend to be more interested and enthused about Apple reveals and Samsung Galaxy flagships to a lesser extent.

Otherwise, I find 95% of android releases to be blah.

 

[jrswizzle]

with iCloud don't you still download the file to local silo folder first before use? Why the heck I want to do that for every app that uses those files? Gets more ridiculous if those are huge files. Like I say waste data, time and battery.

I don't believe that's how it works. The app simply pulls from the iCloud Drive folder, much like Word on your desktop pulls from the documents folder.

Jump back to top is more useful than jump bottom? Are you really out of it that you need to use twisted logic in defense? I finished reading the last post on this page then I move on to the next page. Why the heck anyone would want to go back to the top?

Because not every webpage works that way? Not all have multiple pages - and in full screen mode, I need to go back to the top to type in a new web address or pull up my tabs or reading list etc.....

When would I ever want to skip to bottom? If I want to skip to another page? Most modern websites have the page navigators at the top and bottom these days. If I'm skipping to the bottom, why am I on that webpage in the first place?

In ios while in an app press home then find settings icon then tap settings then scroll and scroll to find settings for the app (heck wait..what was the name of the app again !!) then change settings then double press home then tap the app you were in. You must have got A in maths since your counting is so good or you must have got mixed up with android where I just tap menu then settings then change..3 steps exact

I've never had to do what you just described. Why would I need to go into the iOS settings to get to the app settings?

I said generally never more than 3 taps away from what I normally do. Obviously there are times (in Android too) where things are more than 3 taps away.

Logic not your strong suit?

When the phone rings and you are busy like walking or looking at something else, I grab the phone in my pocket press the home without needing to look at the screen and put the phone straight to my ear in one move. Very real world usage scenario...way better that your excuse to tap to go to top. Who is the la la la...ing here?

Oh no! Heaven forbid I have to glance at my screen to see where the answer button is. If I don't want to answer, all I have to do is hit the power button to decline the call. I can do that without looking.

Dude - like I said before. There are other things you could focus on that have more credibility than the crap you're trying to convince me of here.

For the record - this is my last post on this issue. If you keep ignoring logic and common sense, that's your problem. Just want everyone around to see that I made my case and that it made perfect sense.

 

[mib1800]

I don't believe that's how it works. The app simply pulls from the iCloud Drive folder, much like Word on your desktop pulls from the documents folder.

That's not how it works for dropbox. So I don't think what you said is correct.

Because not every webpage works that way? Not all have multiple pages - and in full screen mode, I need to go back to the top to type in a new web address or pull up my tabs or reading list etc.....

When would I ever want to skip to bottom? If I want to skip to another page? Most modern websites have the page navigators at the top and bottom these days. If I'm skipping to the bottom, why am I on that webpage in the first place?

Then change your browser. The browser I used the top bar will show once I reverse the scroll direction.

Like in this forum the latest posts are at the bottom. So you want to move to bottom.

Also when you first navigate to a page you are at the top. Then you read down the page....why the heck you want to go back up when you already finished reading that part.

I've never had to do what you just described. Why would I need to go into the iOS settings to get to the app settings?

I said generally never more than 3 taps away from what I normally do. Obviously there are times (in Android too) where things are more than 3 taps away.

Logic not your strong suit?

Why? Because all the apps settings are in the main settings. I thought you use iphone. Maybe you tell me how you complete and send an sms in 3 taps. I can on android with one tap using predefined sms shortcuts.

Shortcuts which you dismissed can reduce the many taps to one or two.

Oh no! Heaven forbid I have to glance at my screen to see where the answer button is. If I don't want to answer, all I have to do is hit the power button to decline the call. I can do that without looking.

Dude - like I said before. There are other things you could focus on that have more credibility than the crap you're trying to convince me of here.

For the record - this is my last post on this issue. If you keep ignoring logic and common sense, that's your problem. Just want everyone around to see that I made my case and that it made perfect sense.

It is not my logic that has issue. It is your understanding or refusal to see advantage that's the problem. I did say if I want to answer the phone quickly. Like when you are walking or you just want pick up the call before the caller hangs up.