Apple did mention during the 2020 PSOTU that while they provided the tools for virtualization, that it would be up to Microsoft to license WoA to allow it to run in a VM. They have never stated, even implicitly, that Windows or Windows apps would be able to run on Apple Silicon.
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That's good to hear. Not something I read, but it's good to hear they admitted the problem.
And yes, they most certainly did show it running an the M1 based PC, I watched a demo of it running on Parallels, but I can't remember if it was WWDC when they intro'd the M1, or in the product announcement for the first M1's. (MBA, 13" MBP, Mini)
This has come up before. Apple has never promised or demo'd Windows on M1, it's just something you decided they did and keep criticizing them for. I'm not sure why you're still at it.
I have no doubt that somewhere, sometime, you saw a video of Windows on Parallels on M1. But it wasn't made by Apple.
If you are well off enough to purchase a MBP you are well off enough to also purchase a windows laptop as well. This route, combined with an ethernet remote into the Windows laptop via Parsec is vastly superior than depending and waiting on the Parallels and VM crap.
Latency is negligible and it looks great. Ties up zero resources on your MBP (compared to running native). Stop trying to run x86 on the MBP through VM's.
Latency is negligible and it looks great. Ties up zero resources on your MBP (compared to running native). Stop trying to run x86 on the MBP through VM's.
You can't tell me what I saw, but whatever, this is a silly argument. I wont mention it again.
One of the reasons I bought an M1 Mac was parallels running on an M1 Mac, the other was running "all my favorite" iOS apps on an M1 Mac. In both things I've been extremely disappointed -- to the point that I don't use my M1 Mac at all.
You (and others) are happy, that's good, I'm not telling you to change anything like I get from people around here.
Not everyone is happy. Maybe things will change in the future to fit more of what I want, maybe not and I'll give up on the Mac, who knows. At least I still have my Intel Mac Mini.
Sure, I can buy both, and indeed, have both (and more), but I don't want to carry both!
How about performance on battery, noise levels etc. I have an RTX 3070 Legion 5 pro and it’s great for gaming but I couldn’t use it all day for work etc with the fan noise and the weird windows window resolution scaling in apps.
Fn-Q toggle between silent, balanced and performance profiles. Sweet spot is balanced but silent is silent.
We can, in fact, tell you what you could have seen, because we know what Apple actually demoed.
Think about it. Even to this day, more than a full year after Apple's first M1 product intro, Microsoft has not yet provided a way to license Windows on Arm for use inside a VM. Do you seriously think an organization as careful in crafting and scripting all its external communications as Apple would not run the idea of demoing Windows on M1 in Parallels by legal prior to doing it? Or that the answer would be anything other than "Oh HELL NO we can't demo violating Microsoft's licensing terms"? It doesn't pass the smell test. They never did this.
Here, I went to the trouble of finding where they showed Parallels in the WWDC 2020 keynote.
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At 1:40:00 Craig Federighi talks about virtualization technologies and mentions using virtualization for Linux or Docker.
At 1:41:50 Andreas Wendker demos Parallels running Linux.
Conspicuously absent: Windows. In press interviews after WWDC 2020 Apple execs naturally got asked about Windows, and consistently said they'd like to support Windows on M1 but ultimately it was up to Microsoft.
It's long past time for you to admit that you made a mistake and stop doubling down on these false memories.
I think what people get sick of is you whining about M1 not being exactly what you need it to be while blaming everyone other than yourself for creating the false expectations you had of it.
Thanks for the link to the WWDC demo showing a Linux ARM VM running on an M1 Mac.
I haven't personally seen Apple demoing Windows-on-ARM on Apple Silicon, and agree with your assessment that it would be extremely unlikely for Apple to do this without some form of collaboration with Microsoft.
However, I will accept the *possibility* that it happened (it is technically possible as we know), and would be interested in seeing proof of this if true. If it did, then it must be recorded somewhere.
It's possible, that's how the Amiga "emulated" x86 (both bridgeboard in the bigger desktop and specialized boards that went in sidecars that used the IDE interface, and even another one that plugged into one of the chips on the motherboard on an Amiga 500,) but not over USB. It'd just take someone to do the drivers for the I/O. I hope someone does it eventually. It would be a LOT faster than emulated code. These Amiga devices all had an x86 processor on board, just like those compute sticks.
The problem with emulate is performance, and the M1 (original M1) just isn't fast enough for Windows 10, but it is doable with UTM/QEMU on the M1. Older OS's like XP and Windows 2000 are close to being decent speed, but they're vulnerable...