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Thin Horizontal Lines on Rev 2 MBA?
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Hi guys,
I now read through all 22 pages (526 posts) and I will tell you something:
I) For those of you joining later: USER h1d did a very good summery:
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/6688398/
II) the poll ( https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/608263/ ) is a nice idea
but it does not show the replacement MBAs - right?
III) I've put everyone from this topic in a list, who said his MBA is working or not
(Faint Screen Lines)
-----People who have lines: -----
1. al3ph (W8845 9c9a) 2x
2. bened (Week 45, Tokio)
3. bigrasmusdk (8844, 8845, 8846, 8847) 4x
4. burdenendds 2x
5. dogg 2x
6. echo44
7. ercanbas
8. Essjay ***
9. fizzwinkus (9c9a)
10. fizzwinkus (W8843)
11. frunty (W884304)
12. glhiii (9c9a)
13. HeadForTheHills
14. ichigo11 (Week 47)
15. joemobile 2x
16. justit 2x
17. Kalmia
18. kanpachi (W8843, thread starter)
19. lincolnchee (Week45, 9c9a)
20. Luvion (replacement Week 47 kind of ok)
21. MacMT (8844, 9C9a)
22. menix (Week 44, 55, Germany) 2x
23. nmook
24. omaragra (dissapears more or less when ext.monitor connected)
25. orch5
26. ryanhawiya
27. Starfall (9c9a)
28. StefanR (Week 46, Spanish keyboard) 2x***
29. threepin
30. tommi80 (Week 48) 2x
21. tommyv (Week 45, 47, Switzerland) 2x
32. wheelerw (Week 45)
33. WorldIRC (Toronto, Canada)
34. Y2JDMBFAN (W8844)
35. YOKOJP
36. zer0tails (week 43, 9c9a) ***
***recognised lines later
-----People who have NO lines: -----
1. Ames
2. bwiley
3. chris11 (Italy, US layout)
4. Cynicalone (W8843, 9C9A)
5. dehory (W8844)
6. drevil (W8845)
7. foodcoma (Week 43, Singapore)
8. Herofan (swedish, W8845)
9. iomatic
10. Ironic (Week 44) 2x
11. lincolnchee
12. McGilli (Week33)
13. NC MacGuy, (W8843)
14. stealthman1
15. The golfer (8844, 9c9a)
16. The Toddfather
17. tigres (Week 46)
18. ulim
IV. RESULT:
- WITH Lines: 36 people, 48 MBAs including the replacements.
Further, Nr. 19 Luvion said his replacement MBA would be better than his first one.
MiBook84 experiences the same problem with his MBP.
- WITHOUT Lines: 18 people, 19 MBAs
Nr. 12 McGilli has Week 33? Is this a typo or is this Rev.A?
- So in Total that makes 48: 19 MBAs.
- I am wondering, that Nr.24 omaragra said, that it gets better, when she connects an external monitor. Did anyone else reproduce that?
- So far I have only seen one PICTURE from an MBA with LINES. All the others, like Nr.4 (no lines) Cynicalone, Nr. 15 (no lines) the golfer, were only screenshots! Which doesnt help at all.
- SO PLEASE could people post some more pictures. And is it not possible to design an image which makes it easier to spot the lines?
- Again a link to the Pic of the Problem in general: pic of the problem:
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=33933&d=1130818514
THANKS!
PS: Ironic, please dont take it personal, but I think you are pretty much the only one who keeps repeating himself about the MBA whitout lines. When people with Lines usually mentioning this again, they bring in some new information. But you dont. I think it actually a little bit annoying, too.
I now read through all 22 pages (526 posts) and I will tell you something:
I) For those of you joining later: USER h1d did a very good summery:
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/6688398/
II) the poll ( https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/608263/ ) is a nice idea
but it does not show the replacement MBAs - right?
III) I've put everyone from this topic in a list, who said his MBA is working or not
(Faint Screen Lines)
-----People who have lines: -----
1. al3ph (W8845 9c9a) 2x
2. bened (Week 45, Tokio)
3. bigrasmusdk (8844, 8845, 8846, 8847) 4x
4. burdenendds 2x
5. dogg 2x
6. echo44
7. ercanbas
8. Essjay ***
9. fizzwinkus (9c9a)
10. fizzwinkus (W8843)
11. frunty (W884304)
12. glhiii (9c9a)
13. HeadForTheHills
14. ichigo11 (Week 47)
15. joemobile 2x
16. justit 2x
17. Kalmia
18. kanpachi (W8843, thread starter)
19. lincolnchee (Week45, 9c9a)
20. Luvion (replacement Week 47 kind of ok)
21. MacMT (8844, 9C9a)
22. menix (Week 44, 55, Germany) 2x
23. nmook
24. omaragra (dissapears more or less when ext.monitor connected)
25. orch5
26. ryanhawiya
27. Starfall (9c9a)
28. StefanR (Week 46, Spanish keyboard) 2x***
29. threepin
30. tommi80 (Week 48) 2x
21. tommyv (Week 45, 47, Switzerland) 2x
32. wheelerw (Week 45)
33. WorldIRC (Toronto, Canada)
34. Y2JDMBFAN (W8844)
35. YOKOJP
36. zer0tails (week 43, 9c9a) ***
***recognised lines later
-----People who have NO lines: -----
1. Ames
2. bwiley
3. chris11 (Italy, US layout)
4. Cynicalone (W8843, 9C9A)
5. dehory (W8844)
6. drevil (W8845)
7. foodcoma (Week 43, Singapore)
8. Herofan (swedish, W8845)
9. iomatic
10. Ironic (Week 44) 2x
11. lincolnchee
12. McGilli (Week33)
13. NC MacGuy, (W8843)
14. stealthman1
15. The golfer (8844, 9c9a)
16. The Toddfather
17. tigres (Week 46)
18. ulim
IV. RESULT:
- WITH Lines: 36 people, 48 MBAs including the replacements.
Further, Nr. 19 Luvion said his replacement MBA would be better than his first one.
MiBook84 experiences the same problem with his MBP.
- WITHOUT Lines: 18 people, 19 MBAs
Nr. 12 McGilli has Week 33? Is this a typo or is this Rev.A?
- So in Total that makes 48: 19 MBAs.
- I am wondering, that Nr.24 omaragra said, that it gets better, when she connects an external monitor. Did anyone else reproduce that?
- So far I have only seen one PICTURE from an MBA with LINES. All the others, like Nr.4 (no lines) Cynicalone, Nr. 15 (no lines) the golfer, were only screenshots! Which doesnt help at all.
- SO PLEASE could people post some more pictures. And is it not possible to design an image which makes it easier to spot the lines?
- Again a link to the Pic of the Problem in general: pic of the problem:
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=33933&d=1130818514
THANKS!
PS: Ironic, please dont take it personal, but I think you are pretty much the only one who keeps repeating himself about the MBA whitout lines. When people with Lines usually mentioning this again, they bring in some new information. But you dont. I think it actually a little bit annoying, too.
Yeah Ironic, may be, you are just always ironic or maybe, as I ve now seen some other comments from you in other threads, YOU are JUST annoying. May be we should make a poll about YOU.
Honestly, first you said you own a MBA without lines and afterwards, when people kept complaining about their MBA, you got another MBA. Well, what a surprise, I am waiting for your 3rd one. Surprise me - maybe your dog or grandma got one too? Why dont you take some pics from every angle? Instead keeping annoying people?
Honestly, first you said you own a MBA without lines and afterwards, when people kept complaining about their MBA, you got another MBA. Well, what a surprise, I am waiting for your 3rd one. Surprise me - maybe your dog or grandma got one too? Why dont you take some pics from every angle? Instead keeping annoying people?
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Thank you, nice summary!
I agree we now need to see the correlation of bad screens with flickering. This is harder to judge as some flickering may be acceptable for some but what is excessive becomes subjective. I wonder what role eye sight plays to flickering.
What are you talking about I had two always, one is mine the other is my son's?!
No two is plenty however a tablet would be nice.
So then you have a lot material to take pics from - dont you?
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As I've read before, could it be, that the flickering is related to the screen brightness sensor? Deactivate it and see if it works.
Further I was wondering if anybody with a NON-US Keyboard tried to change his settings to US, including his keyboard. Would the 4-finger gesture work then?
HERE IS A ONLINE SCREEN TEST: http://tft.vanity.dk/monitorTest_scale.html
it comes with a lot of features (Flash), let me know if it is easier to spot the lines with the test.
Currently living in Japan. Bought my MBA Rev B in NY with the lines. Called apple support service in Japan and told them the situation. They are coming to pickup my MBA and see what the problem is and they said most likely they will replace the graphic card which might caused the lines.
Hope is helps and will keep you guys posted.
Hope is helps and will keep you guys posted.
Just signed up to the forum (been a lurker until now) to let you all know that my Air arrived today with lines. Saw them right off the bat. And my eyes were burning in under 5 minutes. Looks to be week 47. I'm in the U.S. and 4 finger swipe works. It's going back to Apple in the morning.
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Thank you for the summary, frifra; it's a big help! It's just unfortunate that there doesn't seem to be an obvious common thread among those of us who had problem displays. Maybe something will present itself on down the line.
I dropped into Best Buy a couple of days ago in the hopes of looking at their revision B display model, but all they had was a revision A with the HDD (and a perfect screen). I talked to an employee who explained that the new models aren't being sold at the physical store locations as of yet, so there went my idea. Ah, well. If I'm at another Apple Store anytime in the next few weeks, I'll see what I can get done, research-wise.
Have any others in this thread sent their MBAs back to Apple and heard back from them? It seems like a few different machines were shipped back, but every person so far has gotten a different response about the issues.
I dropped into Best Buy a couple of days ago in the hopes of looking at their revision B display model, but all they had was a revision A with the HDD (and a perfect screen). I talked to an employee who explained that the new models aren't being sold at the physical store locations as of yet, so there went my idea. Ah, well. If I'm at another Apple Store anytime in the next few weeks, I'll see what I can get done, research-wise.
Have any others in this thread sent their MBAs back to Apple and heard back from them? It seems like a few different machines were shipped back, but every person so far has gotten a different response about the issues.
IMHO, they will address these issues and until they get it, they tell us the "within spec" story.
Everything else would be a bad joke. Flickering screens and grey lines cannot be "within specs"!! 400EUR Netbooks might have a better display than these MBA units...
Irony of the day : It's Ironic my Rev As are flawless and his wasn't...
But, when people talk about the flickering, does the test image flicker without scrolling the image at all?
I see the image flicker on Rev A (or even on an external display) if I scroll them (image at the original size), but doesn't if it stays static.
(And yours [and other 'oh just go get one its gotta be flawless! stop whining newb!'] were?)
And this is a general suggestion but can we not quote the whole big post just to make a reply? (Unless you need it to make yourself make sense, but it's making a page damn long.)
But, when people talk about the flickering, does the test image flicker without scrolling the image at all?
I see the image flicker on Rev A (or even on an external display) if I scroll them (image at the original size), but doesn't if it stays static.
(And yours [and other 'oh just go get one its gotta be flawless! stop whining newb!'] were?)And this is a general suggestion but can we not quote the whole big post just to make a reply? (Unless you need it to make yourself make sense, but it's making a page damn long.)
I can say I've yet to see an MBA with lines. I saw a member here in person and basically smudged the screen with my nose and saw nothing. I'm going to the Apple store later and I'll be looking. Has anyone equated this to an issue outside the US? Like horizontal scroll? Just curious.
make sure that the device you are looking at is a 2nd generation (Rev. B) MacBook Air. The first one didnt have these issues.
Ditto for the Rev B I looked at in the Apple Store. The flickering ocurred in the middle of the image and was verttical - right up the middle part of the image.
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