If Samsung would scale back the bloatware and go for more of a pure android experience I would check them out. My wife just got the Samsung 8plus and while I think it’s interesting it’s overloaded with duplicate apps half of which are Samsung branded that android already has stock.
For me, my iPhone se handles daily tasks fine and does everything I need a phone to do.
Am looking forward to what September holds for Apple though.
My thoughts as well (just skimmed though the thread) as any Android we have in the house spends most of its life updating google this & google that and wants your DNA to do any of that (I exaggerate a little)
My iPhone (5) & Air 2 simply never have this issue that I have seen & although I find the 5 frustrating at times it is the only device (Air 2 as well) that I would trust with my card details etc.
I have no doubt that the S8 is an incredible piece of kit and fast as a fast thing but your thoughts above would stop my buying one should I get it the position to do that.