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mpw

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Jun 18, 2004
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Well, the thing is that in order to use the mouse, you have to move you hands away from the keyboard. I usually avoid the mouse if at all possible, since you can be more productive that way. You can substitute some of the things mouse does with the keyboard, but you can't substitute the keyboard with the mouse.

Heretic!
 

kick52

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Aug 2, 2007
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The only thing I can think of is the speed of their browsers. My 10 year old PC is soooo much more faster at the net than my iBook here, which is just a shame. (I'm talking about scrolling, etc.) However, this might be because I am using the arrow keys to scroll which is, for some reason, 10x more slower than using the scroll bar.
 

motulist

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Dec 2, 2003
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The only thing I can think of is the speed of their browsers. My 10 year old PC is soooo much more faster at the net than my iBook here, which is just a shame. (I'm talking about scrolling, etc.) However, this might be because I am using the arrow keys to scroll which is, for some reason, 10x more slower than using the scroll bar.

You just need to change your key repeat rate setting in your keyboard system preferences to suit your tastes. Or you could just hit the space bar to page down and shift-space bar to page up.
 

-::ubermann::-

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Sep 9, 2006
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Let's ease up on those contradictory terms;)

I'm confused with what you want. Can't you change the view to list view? Wouldn't this be the same thing?

I like that details section in windows explorer, the one in the left, when you select an image it appears a thumbnail
Windows_Explorer_on_Windows_XP.png

to get a thumbnail in finder we have to view as icons, or columns, but i don't like any of those, i like the list view, and the list view doesnt show me a preview when i select an image, if it would it would rock
Note that i only liked that preview, not that I liked the rest of windows explorer, I dont like the "file and folder tasks", or the "other places" sections
Or maybe is there a way to show a preview in the list view that I've missed?
 

motulist

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Dec 2, 2003
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I like that details section in windows explorer, the one in the left, when you select an image it appears a thumbnail

...

o get a thumbnail in finder we have to view as icons, or columns, but i don't like any of those, i like the list view, and the list view doesnt show me a preview when i select an image, if it would it would rock
Note that i only liked that preview, not that I liked the rest of windows explorer, I dont like the "file and folder tasks", or the "other places" sections
Or maybe is there a way to show a preview in the list view that I've missed?

Leopard is adding this feature with quicklook and or cover flow while in list view.
 

-::ubermann::-

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Sep 9, 2006
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What?? You like MSPaint? Just thinking about that crappy program makes me want to reach for a shotgun.

*snorts*
*eye twitches*
*loads shotgun thinking of old enemy*
yes, that crappy program is very light, and it can RESIZE images, is bundled with windows, in mac the lightest bundled program i have is preview, but it cant resize images
 

CalBoy

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May 21, 2007
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I did it this way, which I guess you don't like. For me it's fine; I guess you'll just have to wait until Leopard comes out.
 

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XheartcoreboyX

macrumors 6502a
Jul 3, 2007
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umm,what i miss about windows..
1-the ability to cut/paste files/folders instead of drag and drop..
2-how easy it is to use a picture as a backgroud(right click>set as background.)
3-the ability to see a file/folder size by just putting the cursor on it.

other than that..os x do it in MUCH better way.

I did it this way, which I guess you don't like. For me it's fine; I guess you'll just have to wait until Leopard comes out.

i LOVE that feature in os x..its even not available in windows..by that way you can play any video without even opening the file...leopard will be AWESOME i cant wait!!! but is it going to have cut/paste function for FILES?
 

Shadow

macrumors 68000
Feb 17, 2006
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Internet Explorer.

No seriously, hear me out. I'm a web designer and so I need to test my websites in the most popular browser, which just happens to be IE. I have Parallels installed to use IE7, but IE6 is still used more than IE7 (unfortunatley, since IE7 is much better :() and MS wont tell us a way to run IE6 and IE7 at the same time :mad:
 

Dont Hurt Me

macrumors 603
Dec 21, 2002
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Yahooville S.C.
TV tuners. for $20 you can have TV on your PC. In Apples world the starting price is almost 10 times that just to be able to have TV. Apple ignoring this media is a huge mistake. A media hub has to be able to bring in cable tv.
 

Cloudane

macrumors 68000
Aug 6, 2007
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Sweet Apple Acres
There's very little I like about Windows over OS X directly - everything else is related to its popularity:

Driver support
Games
Abundance of both free and Free software (still seems to be a shareware world on OS X)

Directly relating to Windows, I would have to say they are points relating to weaknesses in Apple's otherwise excellent Usability standards (ask any usability/human interface expert):

Copy one folder on top of another = merge contents - the Mac's action is destructive, deleting the replaced folder instead. I only had to learn this lesson once (byebye data), but shouldn't have had to - destructive results are a BIG usability no-no. At the very least make the warning dialog red, and completely clear that you could lose data.

Better keyboard accessibility. Apologies to the hardened zealots, but it's true. OS X does seem to have consistent hotkeys for common tasks, which is nice, but underlined access keys definitely make the menus more usable in Windows - not only is it quicker than the CMD-F2 method, but the visual cues are there in terms of underlines. Winner.

The # key. Boy do I have a hard time with that one. I know it's alt-3 or something like that, but it's a pain.

A maximize button that maximizes (I almost forgot that one, but it's probably the most important to me!) No doubt hardened Mac enthusiasts will argue against this one too, but at least give us the option! I like to have a window fill the screen, it's just the way I work, and having to drag the corners to do so is a pain. Let's say I want a window again.. just restore? Nope - corner dragging time.



Don't get me wrong though there are many more features in OS X that I miss when using Windows :D
 

Mitthrawnuruodo

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Mar 10, 2004
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Internet Explorer.

No seriously, hear me out. I'm a web designer and so I need to test my websites in the most popular browser, which just happens to be IE. I have Parallels installed to use IE7, but IE6 is still used more than IE7 (unfortunatley, since IE7 is much better :() and MS wont tell us a way to run IE6 and IE7 at the same time :mad:
Two different virtual machines...

I've sat up Parallels to have one Windows 2000 SP4 virtual machine with IE6 and another with XP SP2 and IE7. (You could probably use XP twice, if you don't have an old 2K lying around.)

Ok, so I need a bit more RAM than 2 GB to run both at the same time without everything slowing down a bit, but it does provide me with both IE6 and 7 on my MacBook.
 

OwlsAndApples

macrumors 6502a
Oct 4, 2006
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MSPaint and IrfanView - what a combo! :)
And filmstrip view in folders with loads of pictures (I guess Coverflow in finder will be the new mac equivalent).
 

anthonylambert

macrumors regular
Mar 20, 2002
198
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UK
Menus and Windows.

1. MENUS
I much prefered the Mac's menu where it has one menu at the top of the screen. As screens have got bigger and bigger, I now have a 30" monster, the Microsoft method of having local menus to each app makes much more sense as it has become impracticle to move the mouse so far each time I want to change an apps menu. The menu options need to be far nearer to the actual app. NeXTSTEP use to let you move each apps menu where you wanted it.

2. WINDOW EDGE RESIZING.
Come on Apple! add window edge resizing! It just takes far more clicking to resize windows on a Mac, Most other windowing systems let you grab any edge of the window to resize not just the bottom right corner.... lets not be pig headed and fix this.
 

deputy_doofy

macrumors 65816
Sep 11, 2002
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well for me the ablity to cut and paste files, folder ect. Also the same way with coping. I find it annoying that one can not do that with keyboard commands on the mac.

Someone may have already answered this, but I just tried that. I can't cut, but I can copy and paste with keyboard commans.
 

Corran Horn

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Sep 12, 2006
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I like the ability to choose options in prompts with just the arrow keys. You can't log out or restart the mac without using the mouse. I still press the left key and almost hit enter before remembering that I need to use the mouse.

Oh and pressing tab to go from field to field skips drop down menus on mac, but on windows it will hit every single field and drop down menu. (on websites). However... when reinstalling OSX I noticed that pressing tab DOES go to drop down menus. However as soon as you get into OSX it DOES NOT. :mad:

Otherwise.. I'm in heaven on OSX
 

anthonylambert

macrumors regular
Mar 20, 2002
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I like the ability to choose options in prompts with just the arrow keys. You can't log out or restart the mac without using the mouse. I still press the left key and almost hit enter before remembering that I need to use the mouse.

You can enable this in the preferences... Keyboard and Mouse/Keyboard Shortcuts..... then select the "all controls" radio button.
 

Mitthrawnuruodo

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Mar 10, 2004
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I like the ability to choose options in prompts with just the arrow keys.
Try using Tab instead... :rolleyes:

You may need to enable Full keyboard access for all controls in System Preferences -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts

Oh, and use the Power button to shut down and then hit enter directly on the prompt (or space bar to choose the focused Restart option, or tab to another option), and shift-cmd-Q to log out then tab and enter/space bar to Log Out. Oh, and remember, Esc is usually the Cancel option directly...

No need for mouse.
 

xUKHCx

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Jan 15, 2006
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I like the ability to choose options in prompts with just the arrow keys. You can't log out or restart the mac without using the mouse. I still press the left key and almost hit enter before remembering that I need to use the mouse.

What are you talking about, try cmd+shift+q to log out and you can restart buy cmd+control+eject.

Sleep is cmd+alt+eject
Shutdown is cmd+alt+crtl+eject
 
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