Things we've always liked about windows yet never admitted it

[mpw]

What are you talking about, try cmd+shift+q to log out and you can restart buy cmd+control+eject.

Sleep is cmd+alt+eject
Shutdown is cmd+alt+crtl+eject

I love the incredulous attitude of the Mac zealots. I've used MacOSX since 2001 and didn't know most of those commands, I'm sure they're all listed somewhere on my MacBook, but I wouldn't know where.

Also it's interesting to note that the new style keyboard released today throws a couple more issues into the mix. Even desktops will now need to use the ctrl+fn+F2 combo to access menus as the brightness key has been assigned to the previously empty F2 key. And I note that the keys that previously had symbols, like the alt key no longer do. How is new user supposed to find their way round when the key combos are hard to find displayed and when they are sometimes show sybols for keys that don't have those symbols?

 

[-::ubermann::-]

I did it this way, which I guess you don't like. For me it's fine; I guess you'll just have to wait until Leopard comes out.

one thing that i missed is that in column view, you can't sort by name/date/size/kind, not very practical, while windows have had it for years! and the right click to sort things in any view, not to mention other explorers...

 

[Shadow]

Two different virtual machines...

I've sat up Parallels to have one Windows 2000 SP4 virtual machine with IE6 and another with XP SP2 and IE7. (You could probably use XP twice, if you don't have an old 2K lying around.)

Ok, so I need a bit more RAM than 2 GB to run both at the same time without everything slowing down a bit, but it does provide me with both IE6 and 7 on my MacBook.

16GB of HD gone just for 2 apps is too much (each VM uses 8GB).

 

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

16GB of HD gone just for 2 apps is too much (each VM uses 8GB).

Well, if you're only going to use it for IE, I'm not sure you need 8 GB on each (especially on a Win 2000 partition), and my two VMs combined "only" use 10.8 GB. But, I agree, it's kind of a waste of HD space just because Microsoft cannot make browser...

 

[mpw]

Ctrl-F2 highlights the menu, and then you can use arrow keys to jump around to whatever you want. You do have to remember Ctrl-F2 though ... ...

I thought I'd revisit your post, and reopen this particular can of worms, with the release of Apple's new iMac and accompanying new keyboard.

So ctrl+F2 is from now going to be ctrl+F2+Fn on both laptops and desktop systems, and on desktop systems the standard keyboard puts the Fn key with the page navigation keys so accessing the menus by keyboard is now a two handed operation!

It's all about ease of use with Apple isn't it

 

[mad jew]

Quite an abundance of the problems seem to be user ignorance and/or stubborn ways. I found the more time I spent with my Mac, the more I learnt and the more I got used to the way it works.

 

[harveypooka]

Windows 95 had a startup sound that was made by Brian Eno, the father of ambient. That's pretty cool.

 

[zachman]

i now hate windows

 

[CalBoy]

Quite an abundance of the problems seem to be user ignorance and/or stubborn ways. I found the more time I spent with my Mac, the more I learnt and the more I got used to the way it works.

This is an important note for new switchers. It isn't fair to say that OS X is inferior because one hasn't learned all about it yet. If you think about it, most of us are forced to learn how to use Windows at some point in time, either because of work or school, and rarely is learning OS X a necessity.

 

[queshy]

I prefer windows live messenger (handwriting feature is nice) to msn mac, but adium is nice I guess.

I also prefer office on PC just because it's faster. if office mac 08 ever gets released these caveats will no longer exist!

 

[DoFoT9]

This is an important note for new switchers. It isn't fair to say that OS X is inferior because one hasn't learned all about it yet. If you think about it, most of us are forced to learn how to use Windows at some point in time, either because of work or school, and rarely is learning OS X a necessity.

this is the truest statement EVER!
back in year8 wen i was like 14 my dad bought me a PC, so that i could learn how to use it because i had to learn. i hated it, and i still hate it to this day.

 

[Joshua8o8]

I can't think of one thing I like from windows that i would like on my mac. Like mentioned, i was forced to use windows because thats all my family had. For the time being, i cant ever see myself going back to windows.

 

[clevin]

what I like about windows that OSX can't do
:
1. efficiency, apps indeed run faster once the slow windows startup finished
2. edge resize, resizing OSX window is a pain.
3. shortkeys, not that OSX doesn't have it, but that under OSX, in a LOT of cases, you need to press more keys to accomplish the task.
4. freedom, M$ isn't exactly a nice open environment, but apple's patch to OSX is even more hidden.
5. some software availability, very few way to change the look of the OS, no free way to rip DVD to a 4.5G iso. no obvious easy way to start firefox with multiple profiles. M$ Office lacks many useful shortkeys (insert a row, etc).
6. games, what can I say, you can blame whoever you want to, the problem is still there.


extra. the attitude, how many windows users accuse OSX of photocopying when OSX adopts windows' function/app, etc (if you make statement like "problem will be solved because leopard is going to have this")? and how many people kept throw out accusation of windows ripping off OSX in similar, but reverse situation? these sorts statements are ignorant, unfair, and double standard. You want to call something as "rip off"? call it that way after apple wins the lawsuit.

 

[swampfox]

Hardware Suport! The only thing that I like about windows (pay attention Apple) is that windows allows you to build your own machine from the ground up. I really wish that apple would switch to AMD prosesors, then I would be content

 

[xUKHCx]

I love the incredulous attitude of the Mac zealots. I've used MacOSX since 2001 and didn't know most of those commands, I'm sure they're all listed somewhere on my MacBook, but I wouldn't know where

I'm not a zealot, that is just a turn of phrase that I use from time to time.

 

[mad jew]

Hardware Suport! The only thing that I like about windows (pay attention Apple) is that windows allows you to build your own machine from the ground up. I really wish that apple would switch to AMD prosesors, then I would be content

That's been discussed before. As great as it would be to have OSX running on any PC, it would mean more work for Apple to accommodate all the different configurations. Part of Windows' problem is that the hardware and software relationship is too loose.

 

[yg17]

My favorite Windows feature that I wish we had, it's awesome!!!!!




I just love spending 8 minutes on the phone talking to someone on the other side of the world just to use a product I legally own. Apple needs this feature in Leopard!!!!



[/sarcasm]

 

[Aperture]

I just love spending 8 minutes on the phone talking to someone on the other side of the world just to use a product I legally own. Apple needs this feature in Leopard!!!!



[/sarcasm]

I'd have to agree. I see no real point in it. If someone wants to pirate an OS, (OS X, Vista, whatever) they will. It would be near impossible to stop piracy.

 

[CaptainWOW]

The thing I love about windows and have never admitted is...

... That I don't have to use it!

...

Oh, wait. I admit that daily. Nevermind.

(Sorry, I couldn't resist. )

Seriously though, Windows is okay... I guess. The thing is I just like the Mac OS so much more.

When my parents got me and my brother an iMac for Christmas in '01 it was just so much more simple.

And now that I've converted my whole family to Mac (Well I did that in 2004) I just like the fact that I'm no longer running virus scans for them every week. My "tech support" for them is no longer tedious tasks like that - it's more of a question/answer sort of thing.

 

[pdxflint]

I didn't bother to read all 7 pages of posts... but I like the way Windows handles resizing windows better than Mac - double click top of window for full screen maximize/resize. Firefox for Win is just better. Networking seems easier. Windows explorer w/ folder options beats Finder. Contextual menus seem more comprehensive and more natural to use on laptops with the right-click button. [Of course, I am so used to the eraserhead on my Thinkpad that I really wish it were an option on Mac laptops - I really don't like trackpads which require sliding my fingers all around, and prefer to keep my hands on the keyboard with 'mouse' buttons within easy reach of my thumb(s), and my hands relatively stationary. Also, with the eraserhead configuration, it's so easy to switch hands without thinking about it. Once you get hooked on it, it's hard to give it up - move cursor with directional pressure, not movement. Much easier to click-drag when not having to move fingers to move cursor while keeping thumb on button...] Windows Task Manager (the famous ctrl-alt-delete, 3-finger salute) is much more comprehensive, gives more information about balky applications. I guess it's just what you get used to.

Having said that, I'm still a Mac loyalist, but it's been awhile since I've had a new Mac. What I really want are the iLife and iWork apps. I don't really care one way or the other about the interface differences, since I'm very comfortable on my old, buttoned-down, stable Win2k installation. Having said that....I'll never, ever upgrade to a newer Windows OS, so it'll be back to Mac when Leopard finally arrives. Hopefully, having offered these thoughts here, I won't get any death threats...

 

[TBi]

I'd have to agree. I see no real point in it. If someone wants to pirate an OS, (OS X, Vista, whatever) they will. It would be near impossible to stop piracy.

I do wonder what costs more... piracy or spending tonnes of money on these anti piracy measures including paying for a call center where people call in when they have activation problems.

 

[yg17]

I'd have to agree. I see no real point in it. If someone wants to pirate an OS, (OS X, Vista, whatever) they will. It would be near impossible to stop piracy.

Its pointless. Everything I was doing was kosher, I had just switched it up from Bootcamp to a Parallels VM (still only have 1 install) but if I was installing it on an additional computer, I could have easily lied to them and gotten the activation code

 

[XheartcoreboyX]

umm,things i miss about windows :
-the ability to cut files/folders then paste them anywhere else withou the pain of drag/drop them.
-the fact that i cant get in any computer store and buy any peice of hardware the way i used to do when i had a pc.
-video chat with msn users.-i know you can do it in amsn but not as good as i used to do it in pc..-.
-games!! i have to restart the machine and use bootcamp to play them...

but in the other hand..i will not ever think about getting a pc again!
i will most likely wait until os x fill those ''flaws''.

 

[markjewiss]

Just found this thread and read through it all, no-one seems to have mentioned yet the thing that I haven't worked out how to do on my MPB, which is...

the right-click key!!!

It's *so* useful to be able to access context menus without having to take your hands off the keyboard. I *love* my keyboard shortcuts, and really miss this. Having said that, I didn't know about ctrl-F2 to get access to the menus until reading this thread, so hoping someone can put me out of my misery. I don't care if it's a five button shortcut, I just want to be able to use it in some way...

Mark.

 

[DoFoT9]

Just found this thread and read through it all, no-one seems to have mentioned yet the thing that I haven't worked out how to do on my MPB, which is...

the right-click key!!!

It's *so* useful to be able to access context menus without having to take your hands off the keyboard. I *love* my keyboard shortcuts, and really miss this. Having said that, I didn't know about ctrl-F2 to get access to the menus until reading this thread, so hoping someone can put me out of my misery. I don't care if it's a five button shortcut, I just want to be able to use it in some way...

Mark.

lol either CTRL-left click, or get a right click mouse..