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iPhone XS Max This is why the new iPhones are failing
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Yep, I’m sure some of the Android manufacturers would love to “fail” like that.
This is what I’ve been saying for a little while now and keep getting blasted for it...but don’t care, if more people would take issue with how prices keep going up and using some shelved components from older models then they would have to take notice.
Money talks, I sent back my new iPad cause it was unacceptable and WAY overpriced and will be much more careful buying Apple products. I can afford them but not going to accept how they are using us now to see how much they can get from the consumer on what is only acceptable.
Sad part is that lots of people buying these overpriced products and supporting the greed can’t really afford them and going into debt.
Quality is reason they are failing too.
Price is too high, device is underwhelming and offers no distinctive USP, the smartphone market is losing its lustre and Apple's brand image is now declining.
All predictable at least two years ago and Apple have sadly walked straight into it due to their short sightedness and greed.
Plus, Safari is just as snappy on the old models.
All predictable at least two years ago and Apple have sadly walked straight into it due to their short sightedness and greed.
Plus, Safari is just as snappy on the old models.
It’s not that Apple are necessarily doing anything wrong the market has plateaued.
I know very few people who would fork out £1000 for a phone let alone £1450. However the XR seems fairly reasonably priced but I’m not seeing many of those about either? I think it’s a mix of high prices and the fact an iPhone 7 and 8 are still very capable of doing most of what you can do on a current iPhone. There’s just not enough incentive to upgrade currently. You’re never going to blow the market away with high prices though and Apple need to sort that out.
They're certainly getting pricing wrong. I'd argue they're also screwing up on design, specification and model range, but I guess that's a matter of opinion.
My view is that from the iPhone 6 onwards, they've slowly been turning into a stale big corporate and in so doing, have been heading heading closer and closer towards making a major mistake through hubris - the ridiculous pricing of this year's devices is that moment it seems
Safari is really snappy though, so at least they're doing great there.
"between the 5.8-inch iPhone XS ($999 U.S. starting price) and XS Max ($1,099 starting price), it looks as if the XS Max has sold better. Analytics firm Mixpanel's data indicates the XS Max accounted for 2.81% of the iPhone installed base as of Dec. 10th, and the iPhone XS 2.26%."
https://realmoney.thestreet.com/inv...t-the-panic-button-on-iphone-pricing-14806362
For those interested in the math, that works out to around 20 million iPhone Xs Max activated and in use as of December 10.
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They’ll sell a good amount over the holidays too.
Peak iPhone is now becoming a reality. Apple need to lower prices and start making great phones again.
The notch is a design disaster. They also need to look at possibly reviving the fingerprint sensor.
The notch is a design disaster. They also need to look at possibly reviving the fingerprint sensor.
If they don't perform much better even with your line of thinking, someone could walk in to an Apple Store and purchase an iPhone 7 base model. The base model is $449+tax or grab a 128 GB model for $549 (U.S. prices)-- problem solved.
I drove by the Apple store and it was packed. Apple may sell less but the profit margin is great! Looked like a lot of very happy customers to me.
My Apple store stays packed too, and I’m not exactly in a tech-forward area. But they’re all packed pretty much.
So if you believe Apple’s having problems, yes, go to an Apple store. Your eyes will tell you a different story.
So if you believe Apple’s having problems, yes, go to an Apple store. Your eyes will tell you a different story.
Price isn't everything!
Aston Martin Valkyrie: $3.2 million each, 150 units to be made, totally sold out before production starts!
Aston Martin Valkyrie: $3.2 million each, 150 units to be made, totally sold out before production starts!
A broader issue is that the so-called supply-chain analysts have been wrong 20 out of 21 times (year-old AI article). If you’re a 1/21 professional and can flip a coin and get it right ~10 out of 21 times, someone’s getting paid to be wrong. Couple that with editorial silence (why do the editors let them continue to publish based on a method that’s wrong 95% of the time?) and it brings up Sherlock Holmes from ‘Silver Blaze’ as I recall.
Silver Blaze was a race horse, stolen of course, otherwise Holmes wouldn’t be in the story. Holmes was recounting the night in question with Watson and remarked (paraphrased):
Holmes - ‘Then there’s the curious incident of the (stable) dog.’
Watson - ‘What incident, the dog did nothing?’
Holmes - ‘That’s the curious thing’.
Silver Blaze was a race horse, stolen of course, otherwise Holmes wouldn’t be in the story. Holmes was recounting the night in question with Watson and remarked (paraphrased):
Holmes - ‘Then there’s the curious incident of the (stable) dog.’
Watson - ‘What incident, the dog did nothing?’
Holmes - ‘That’s the curious thing’.
That has a downside: one of the reasons people buy iPhones is that they know that Apple provides years of free, highly functional upgrades. Take that away and you remove one competitive advantage that Apple has over android.
Of course the price is the reason. The "budget" flagship phone is nearly $822 (Edit: not $850) when you factor in California sales tax. I quoted the lowest price for a flagship phone, happy?
It's ridiculous when the incremental upgrades are getting smaller and smaller and market saturation is getting more and more. It's a huge price to pay for not more than you already have assuming your phone is less than a couple years old. All this is doing is causing the upgrade cycle to lengthen.
Just because the apple store is packed doesn't mean everyone is buying. I bet many people in the apple store are in there to pass time while whoever they came to the mall with is shopping for something else. I do that.
I hope that apple realizes that they have priced all their phones too highly and knocks $100 off each of them. I'm not so sure they will, but we will find out.
It's ridiculous when the incremental upgrades are getting smaller and smaller and market saturation is getting more and more. It's a huge price to pay for not more than you already have assuming your phone is less than a couple years old. All this is doing is causing the upgrade cycle to lengthen.
Just because the apple store is packed doesn't mean everyone is buying. I bet many people in the apple store are in there to pass time while whoever they came to the mall with is shopping for something else. I do that.
I hope that apple realizes that they have priced all their phones too highly and knocks $100 off each of them. I'm not so sure they will, but we will find out.
Great quote. I'm stealing it.
That won’t work , it will just p** off customer base.
They will look to different manufacture - OS.
As long time Samsung user , I know this well. It pushed me over to XR
and that's before adding AppleCare+ ($199--you aren't going to shell out $1,535.94 for a phone and not buy insurance, right?), a case ($49, Apple leather), and some accessories (~$100--wireless charging pads, anyone?).
Grand total probably more like
$1,883.94
That, my friends, is insane.
Not compared to a $1,000 ($1,700 2018) 1994 StarTAC, it’s an absolute BARGAIN. If you don’t believe me, send me a $999 XS and I’ll send you the $1,700 StarTAC (if I can find it).
I won’t expect a XS in the mail.....
wow. 1649€ here in europe for the 512GB version.
that's crazy expensive.
But then again, why would anyone need 512GB in a phone is beyond me. I don't know why is it 400€ more for the Xs tho..
that's crazy expensive.
But then again, why would anyone need 512GB in a phone is beyond me. I don't know why is it 400€ more for the Xs tho..