In Cover Flow view (Command-4), if I delete a file the next one is selected. I think you're talking about Column view (Command-3) which behaves as you describe.
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Because we like OSX and are tired of Apple refusing to keep up on GPU and IO technologies and products merely to keep the Apple hardware ecosystem closed, expensive and un-upgradeable. That song and dance used to work in the PPC days, but there is just no excuse for it now, imho.
Zactly!
Apple land: wonderfully open OpSys. Closed, paternalistic, "we know best" hardware.
PC land: wonderfully open hardware. Closed, paternalistic, "we know best" OpSys.
...a curse on both their houses,
LK
Because we like OSX and are tired of Apple refusing to keep up on GPU and IO technologies and products merely to keep the Apple hardware ecosystem closed, expensive and un-upgradeable. That song and dance used to work in the PPC days, but there is just no excuse for it now, imho.
In your mind, what has changed with their business model for computers since the PPC days that would enable such a change as you are describing? Because at first read, you sound like you would like something for nothing: a great OS and user interfaces, AND the low cost of open hardware. Please explain how you would like them to achieve these simultaneously?
It's called self preservation. Also known as a "continuous revenue stream". It must be working, because people are still plunking down $$$ [or EU depending on your locale] for their hardware/software; me included...
The reality is FW800 is quite fast and fast enough for consumer use.
The other reality is you can use the express card slot in a MBP to get eSATA capability. You can use the empty slots in a MP to do the same thing although you already have quite a few hard drive bays in those as it is.
If you're a pro or prosumer than you have access to eSata because presumably you own one of Apple's Pro Macs.
The last reality is that USB and FW are both going to get faster in the near future.
Anyway I don't see it going into the Mini and since you agree we have nothing to talk about.
Because we like OSX and are tired of Apple refusing to keep up on GPU and IO technologies and products merely to keep the Apple hardware ecosystem closed, expensive and un-upgradeable. That song and dance used to work in the PPC days, but there is just no excuse for it now, imho.
The problem there is that part of what makes Apple appealing is the ease of use and the fact it just works. And that stems from Apple doing both software and hardware.
If Apple starts supporting OS/X on any hardware then that means you're going to see alot more 3rd party drivers. And that's going to mean alot more Windows-like headaches.
Lastly it would mean Apple would probably stop making hardware.
You're operating from the assumption that for some people there is such a thing as "fast enough". While I happen to agree, there are obviously quite a few people out there who not only don't feel this way, but also feel that others should not feel this way. But to take such a stance only denies that there are always trade-offs to having the "fastest", are there not? If there were not trade-offs, then everyone would just always get the fastest, would they not?
If people want speed they can get external hard drive speed. Step up to the MBP or MP. Simple as that.
For products like the Mini and iMac and Macbook well those products are aimed at the consumer market. Most folks I know don't even have an external drive. I doubt the vast majority of computer users do.
And for Time Machine use it doesn't really matter if your drive is 20% or 40% slower or faster. IT backs up when you're doing something else or are asleep. I'm using a FW400 drive and it's plenty fast for TM. I mean just because something is faster doesn't mean that it's worth buying. If I had a faster drive for TM well it wouldn't affect my daily computing experience any.
HOw about for Apple TV? Does it matter if I use a FW400 drive or FW800 or eSata drive to store media on that the ATV can access? No because it's all going to travel over my wireless N network or 100Mbit ethernet Network which is the bottleneck.
And there are tradeoffs. If you're an Apple customer and you have a Firewire drive and Firewire camcorder and now Apple puts an eSata port on the back and eliminates one of the FW ports then you might be pissed. YOu have no use for eSata and don't really care if it's 20% faster or so (some tests I looked at showed FW800 was just as reading data btw as eSata.) Of course maybe you can daisy chain your hd and camcorder. And then you'll be a happy camper.
But again the vast majority of consumers that Apple caters to with the Mini, Macbook and Imac just don't care about eSata.
Tech for Tech's sake doesn't matter. Faster only really matters if the extra speed is going to help you do a task quicker than you did before. Honestly if I got a faster external hard drive I'm not sure what I would gain. Yeah files would transfer faster, but really read small file reads and writes would be the same. The only difference would be if you work with super large files. And had some reason that shaving a minute or two off the time it takes to write that large file would make all the difference in the world to you. Folks seem to do fine with slower laptop drives. Laptops are immensely popular nowadays. And so this is why I say FW800 is plenty fast for today's consumers. I'm not talking about Pros or the exceptions to the rules. If those folks want speed then step up to the PRO line or look on the Windows side of things.
I totally agree. What I can't understand is this bizarre notion some have that we should all always want the fastest at all cost and sacrifice, regardless of the specific application, need or user value, as if Apple is somehow wronging the world for catering to people with those needs.
Only when I am wearing my ninja suit and have very limited amount of time to transfer classified data out of an advanced encrypted computer in a highly secured office I may have a need for an eSata port...
No Way! That is exactly when I use it too!
Seriously though, my Tivo HD had an eSata port for adding additional external HD capacity for recording. I suppose if you are streaming HD content to the drive from 2 tuners and from the drive to watch a recording simultaneously, it makes sense to have the fastest throughput possible. I have no doubt there are distinctive valuable applications for the fastest. I also have no doubt that there is little need for the fastest in every application for every user.
Everyone does! ....well, everyone except Apple. In the case of eSATA, there
are NO trade-offs at all -- that's why there are vastly more eSATA external
drives. Firewire drives are in the closeout aisle -- next to the buggy whips.
- eSATA is faster -- 600% faster than the mini's FW400, 300% faster than FW800
- eSATA is simpler -- no "bridge" chipset is required in the external enclosure
- eSATA is cheaper -- $22 vs. $80 for otherwise identical external enclosures
- eSATA requires ZERO additional software -- same drivers as the internal HDD
- eSATA requires ZERO additional electronics/logic -- just one $0.25 connector
Here's a photo of the entire eSATA "interface kit" for a PC or Mac Pro; the
only difference between internal and external is that the external connector
is more robust and designed to survive frequent connect/disconnect cycles.
...so, exactly which "trade-offs" did you have in mind?
LK
Everyone does! ....well, everyone except Apple. In the case of eSATA, there
are NO trade-offs at all -- that's why there are vastly more eSATA external
drives. Firewire drives are in the closeout aisle -- next to the buggy whips.
- eSATA is faster -- 600% faster than the mini's FW400, 300% faster than FW800
- eSATA is simpler -- no "bridge" chipset is required in the external enclosure
- eSATA is cheaper -- $22 vs. $80 for otherwise identical external enclosures
- eSATA requires ZERO additional software -- same drivers as the internal HDD
- eSATA requires ZERO additional electronics/logic -- just one $0.25 connector
Here's a photo of the entire eSATA "interface kit" for a PC or Mac Pro; the
only difference between internal and external is that the external connector
is more robust and designed to survive frequent connect/disconnect cycles.
...so, exactly which "trade-offs" did you have in mind?
LK
So if it is so cheap and easy to add on after the fact, why are you complaining that it doesn't come standard?
There are no "easy" add-ons for an iMac or mini.
...OTOH, they do come in "cute" packages,
LK
Leon Kowalski must work for the company that makes those Icy Dock cases. Ive seen him post links to that no less that 5 times.
Nope, no connection with 'em except as a very satisfied customer -- and
I'm not the only one. Google-up some online reviews and/or read the
customer comments on newegg.com. Consistent rave reviews on all
their MB559 family products. Hard-to-beat prices, too.
LK
Yes, there are a lot of benefits for using eSATA.
Here are two draw-backs:
1) Not plug-n-play. Apple is very pro easy-to-use. I don't see them adding this as a feature because of the potential for too many consumers not understanding how to connect/disconnect a non pnp HD. You may think it's simple and this is not an issue, but there are a lot of tech-ignorant Mac users.
2) Mac Pro users can add the bracket from Newer Tech that uses the ODD ports on the MB. Problem is you can't boot up from these drives. That may also not seem like a big deal, but you can boot up with USB/FW400/FW800. Again ease of use.
With that said, if they fixed (somehow?) these issues, I don't see why Apple would not make it BTO on the Mac Pro. It would make sense.
Regardless of what Apple does with its top-of-the-line machine, you will NOT see eSATA on a MacMini until eSATA is on the MacPro, MacBook Pro, MacBook, and iMac.
Here are two draw-backs:
1) Not plug-n-play. Apple is very pro easy-to-use. I don't see them adding this as a feature because of the potential for too many consumers not understanding how to connect/disconnect a non pnp HD. You may think it's simple and this is not an issue, but there are a lot of tech-ignorant Mac users.
2) Mac Pro users can add the bracket from Newer Tech that uses the ODD ports on the MB. Problem is you can't boot up from these drives. That may also not seem like a big deal, but you can boot up with USB/FW400/FW800. Again ease of use.
With that said, if they fixed (somehow?) these issues, I don't see why Apple would not make it BTO on the Mac Pro. It would make sense.
Regardless of what Apple does with its top-of-the-line machine, you will NOT see eSATA on a MacMini until eSATA is on the MacPro, MacBook Pro, MacBook, and iMac.
I had a feeling there were trade offs. Everything has trade offs. Leon should know that.
So basically you are pissed that Apple's consumer-directed, entry-level computers aren't easily user-upgraded and expanded? If you have an iMac, then you know exactly what it was made for (and made to do) when you bought it. Just get a Mac Pro or a PC and quit whining.
Why Wait?
Why wait for apple to add eSata to the mini when you can just jump in there and do it yourself??
http://www.erebos.net/articles/macmini_esata/macmini_esata.php
It's what I'll be doing as soon as the 1yr warranty is up.
Why wait for apple to add eSata to the mini when you can just jump in there and do it yourself??
http://www.erebos.net/articles/macmini_esata/macmini_esata.php
It's what I'll be doing as soon as the 1yr warranty is up.
What ransom must we pay to get this thread back on topic?
I will pay with small unmarked bits ...
I will pay with small unmarked bits ...
About iMac screen becoming loose?
I am new to the Mac world. Have been reading about the eMac monitor becoming loose after moving it up and down over time. Just wondering if this can be fixed by tightning up a fitting. Seems it would be difficult to get inside the thing to do anything much except add memory upgrade.
Maybe the monitor becoming loose is from mistreatment. We all don't use things the same way. People can be very rough on equipment. Just wondering if anyone has some comments about the monitor becoming loose over time?
I am new to the Mac world. Have been reading about the eMac monitor becoming loose after moving it up and down over time. Just wondering if this can be fixed by tightning up a fitting. Seems it would be difficult to get inside the thing to do anything much except add memory upgrade.
Maybe the monitor becoming loose is from mistreatment. We all don't use things the same way. People can be very rough on equipment. Just wondering if anyone has some comments about the monitor becoming loose over time?
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