I think of the iPad as a computer ALTERNATIVE more than a computer REPLACEMENT. Your milage may vary.
I think of the iPad as a computer ALTERNATIVE more than a computer REPLACEMENT. Your milage may vary.
And to clarify, it's not media files on the thumb drives. It's generally word, PDF, power point, etc.
Interesting. Every time I've tried something like this (and I've tried many devices), there are always severe restrictions. For example:
So for example with this device, there aren't all these weird restrictions like that? I can just copy a PowerPoint file to my iPad, and it sits in some directory or folder? And I can open that local file later from any application that can read/write PowerPoint files?
- The file can be opened, but only by a special proprietary app made by the device maker, and therefore read-only and limited to specific file types.
- The file can be copied to the iDevice, but only if it is a picture or a video.
- The files present themselves via DLNA, which is media only.
- The files present themselves via SAMBA, and only those very rare apps which are designed to open from a network share can access them.
Forgive my skepticism, but I've been through disappointment many many times. I only have hope again because I'm vaguely aware that iOS11 added an accessible file/folder system.
I generally don't use the vendor's app with the FileHub, I use FileBrowser or FileExplorer which allow me open, read, and write files with other apps. Or I can save a copy in the file manager's workspace/sandbox. No restrictions. Did it with Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and PDF files (in addition to viewing media files, etc.) I've saved converted photos from Lightroom to an attached HDD. This all worked in iOS 9 & 10, also.
I generally don't use the vendor's app with the FileHub, I use FileBrowser or FileExplorer which allow me open, read, and write files with other apps. Or I can save a copy in the file manager's workspace/sandbox. No restrictions. Did it with Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and PDF files (in addition to viewing media files, etc.) I've saved converted photos from Lightroom to an attached HDD. This all worked in iOS 9 & 10, also.
So Apple is trying to market the iPad as a laptop replacement. Maybe in Cupertino, but in the real world, doesn't work that way.
As a cop, I go to several schools a year and in most classes, we get thumb drives of the class data, notes, power points, etc.
As my fellow students are pulling the data up on their laptops, I'm stuck playing with myself as the iPad obviously doesn't have a USB port. So, I started looking on Amazon and there really aren't many options that I can tell with seamlessly allows one to, at the very least, READ from a thumb drive. I'm I missing something here?
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Yes, everyone else must adapt to Apple, not Apple adapting to the needs of the users.It is a computer replacement provided you do everything online. In OPs scenario an easy google drive folder can fix the issue where the students upload whatever they have to and then the OP can access them from his iPad.
Yes, everyone else must adapt to Apple, not Apple adapting to the needs of the users.
Like I said - Because Apple says so.
Yes, everyone else must adapt to Apple, not Apple adapting to the needs of the users.
Like I said - Because Apple says so.
That’s what made them successful to begin with. It’s actually well known in the industry that consumers just don’t have enough grasp of the whole thing to push the industry forward.
Apple is selling a product. You don’t need to adapt, you can choose to buy another product if you don’t like what Apple sells.
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That’s absolutely correct.
I like my 10.5" iPad Pro, just fine. I'd never think of having it replace my MBP, because it can't do the things I would need it to do. The OP is find out the hard way, that Apple doesn't want him using the iPad Pro, the way he wants to as well. As others have suggested, the OP needs the places he visits, to transform their process to adapt to Apple's limitations. Seems kinda odd to me, but again - Because Apple.Apple is selling a product. You don’t need to adapt, you can choose to buy another product if you don’t like what Apple sells.
Not sure what specifically you are referring to here.That’s what made them successful to begin with. It’s actually well known in the industry that consumers just don’t have enough grasp of the whole thing to push the industry forward.
I like my 10.5" iPad Pro, just fine. I'd never think of having it replace my MBP, because it can't do the things I would need it to do. The OP is find out the hard way, that Apple doesn't want him using the iPad Pro, the way he wants to as well. As others have suggested, the OP needs the places he visits, to transform their process to adapt to Apple's limitations. Seems kinda odd to me, but again - Because Apple.
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Not sure what specifically you are referring to here.
Just as a follow up to this thread (which I've followed with interest), I've found that my HooToo TripMate Elite (TM-06 is the model number) works the same way as the RAV power one listed earlier. I tried it with the TravelMate app & it worked fine to open Powerpoint & Excel files & save them to the iPad, or to One Drive, Dropbox, etc. I'm sure it would work with other file types as well, but I didn't test any others specifically. I also didn't try file browser, File Explorer, etc, but I'm assuming it would work with those as well.
I don't mean to poke holes in this debate, but there is really no need for physical media anymore, and Apple realized that, and so they do not make an effort to include access to these obsolete technologies in their new products.
Someone could argue that lack of access to a floppy drive would make an iPad not usable for their particular situation. Sounds like the OP's classes are a bit behind the times in their distribution methods. While that is obviously a real problem for some, Apple does not seem concerned about it when they design their new products. Instead, they seem to be of the opinion that they can push the world to modernize by not addressing these obsolete technologies. The best example I can think of is when they decided to not support flash on iOS, although I'm sure there is someone out there that misses the old "blue screen of death".
With wireless exchange methods like AirDrop, and internet exchange methods like FTP, email, and the available cloud services, there is really no need to use physical media.
A bit late in replying to this comment, but I have to say, it's like Apple users live in a bubble sometimes. In the real world, for millions and millions of users, sometimes a USB flash drive or a headphone jack are still the easiest and most convenient solution. I'm not saying that we should cling to legacy tech forever, but Apple has never offered much in the way of transition, and their defenders are always quick to say it's the user's fault for not adjusting their workflow accordingly.
The OP mentioned working in schools specifically, and as a teacher myself, I can tell you that working with older tech is just a reality sometimes (I need a VGA dongle to connect my laptop to a projector).
A bit late in replying to this comment, but I have to say, it's like Apple users live in a bubble sometimes. In the real world, for millions and millions of users, sometimes a USB flash drive or a headphone jack are still the easiest and most convenient solution. I'm not saying that we should cling to legacy tech forever, but Apple has never offered much in the way of transition, and their defenders are always quick to say it's the user's fault for not adjusting their workflow accordingly.
The OP mentioned working in schools specifically, and as a teacher myself, I can tell you that working with older tech is just a reality sometimes (I need a VGA dongle to connect my laptop to a projector).
On a recent 3-week trip on a boat, our only available method of sharing photos and videos (many GBs worth) was via USB drives - never had WiFi or Internet connectivity. We're a long way from a world without physical media.
I don't mean to poke holes in this debate, but there is really no need for physical media anymore, and Apple realized that, and so they do not make an effort to include access to these obsolete technologies in their new products.
Someone could argue that lack of access to a floppy drive would make an iPad not usable for their particular situation. Sounds like the OP's classes are a bit behind the times in their distribution methods. While that is obviously a real problem for some, Apple does not seem concerned about it when they design their new products. Instead, they seem to be of the opinion that they can push the world to modernize by not addressing these obsolete technologies. The best example I can think of is when they decided to not support flash on iOS, although I'm sure there is someone out there that misses the old "blue screen of death".
With wireless exchange methods like AirDrop, and internet exchange methods like FTP, email, and the available cloud services, there is really no need to use physical media.
Which is why Apple (as well as other companies) sell adapters (and other solutions) - so your new tech an interact with your old tech. In this case, a thumb drive with a lightning connector built in or WiFi (ad-hoc) would allow the passing of information between devices.
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I would agree, but we’ve also come a long way from physical storage being the only viable option in many of the most common scenarios.
On a recent 3-week trip on a boat, our only available method of sharing photos and videos (many GBs worth) was via USB drives - never had WiFi or Internet connectivity. We're a long way from a world without physical media.
In this case, you can use lightning to USB adaptors to get pictures and videos transferred from USB devices. But if you would need transfer other types of files, then it gonna be problem/.
Your argument would never works in real word scenario. There are tons of situation where you need the legacy port or physical port to get things done. Things never move as fast as Apple or any Apple fans would hope for.
Universities in Canada, at least, still use some website ulitizing flash for assignments.
Again, sometimes I am wondering if all Apple fans living in the ideal situation where they have constant internet access and never went offline. Everything they seems to think is that internet backup, internet transfer. By the way, AirDrop never works perfectly as it made out to be. You can’t Airdrop items to none iOS and Mac devices. Think about the situation where multiple people would discuss about a projects and requires collaboration. Lots of time, physical media is the easiest way to get things done. You aren’t require to constant downloading files from internet. Groups members with different products can access same information easily.
Which is exactly dumb idea. You get a thin and light devices, then you need grab all these adapters to make things work. You also require to pay extra money just to get things done.
In this case, OP need buy a extra connectors or WiFi storage devices, just to access some files from USB drive. This is absolutely dumb in my opinion.
If you're going to make ridiculous statements, at least replace "Apple" with "the Tech Industry" because it's not like Apple is alone in pushing new technologies. Oh, and how old are these technologies that Apple is "pushing" on these poor beleaguered organizations? Both Cloud and Lightning have been around for quite a while.
... and because they're so legacy, websites like that are barely accessible on any modern device. It's going to be almost completely unaccessible in 2020 when browser support for Flash stops.
No, you can't AirDrop to non-Apple devices... if only there was a non-Apple solution that worked on all devices! Oh... wait... there are SEVERAL! Dropbox, Google Drive, OneDrive... the list goes on and on.
OMG NO!!! Not an Adapter!!!! It's the end of the world!!!
Yes, it's a totally dumb idea to have one port that can become many things! Let's just go back to sticking every single port we can think of onto a device just in case someone out there needs it!
This ignorance against adaptors is baffling. The idea that one port can become what you need it to be (and can change based on need) is one of the great things about both Lightning and USB-C. It's MUCH more versatile than including a Legacy port on the device because it can handle all kinds of legacy devices.
LOL.... Tech world move much slower than Apple. Last time I checked, Samsung still offers headphone jacks, Android still offers expanded storage, Microsoft still offers multiple ports on their tablet, Android still offers USB OTG. See the point?
Stop right there. University won't move to other solution just because Apple or some other companies decided to kill off flash. Flash will still continue exsits, you would never really kill them off. Flash plug in will still available.
Yes, because everyone has online storage and everyone can access internet everywhere. If I am working with people who different cliude storage account, then I need upload one file to several account? If I go to trip where there are no internet connection? Physical storage is still.very inoirtant, this is why iPad will never able to replace laptop and Microsoft Surface is such good alternative.
Yes. Adaptors are stuoid. You pay extra just to get something working and maybe you just need use once a while. Adaptors gets lost easily and break easily. You need constantly remember to bring the adaptors with you. Most people do not like adaptors, only few hard core Apple defense force will defend Apple hard.
No. I don't buy iPhone because lack of headphone jack. I don't buy iPhone because no OTG support.
Not really, but moving on..
AGAIN... not just Apple. Google, Microsoft, Apple, and ADOBE (the makers of Flash) will ALL stop supporting or making the plug-in available. Read up on it. If you want to keep using Flash, you will have to hang on to an old web-browser because none of the major players will support it.
Yes, EVERYONE has the ability to get FREE online storage. And yes, schools and businesses DO have internet access. Don't try to tell me we're living in some sort of dark age where people don't have access to the internet and free tools.
I'm not arguing that you won't need physical storage, I'm saying there are LOTS of options that are cross-platform. But yes, let's bring up the time you went on vacation and there wasn't internet access - there are still a LOT of options for storage - they're out there but you have to be open to the fact that, in order to use the latest tech you might need an adapter.
Wow. Just wow.
Let me expand on this:
In the end, I can clearly see this is just Apple-Hate instead of trying to make an argument for or against adaptors and other services.
- You have to pay extra to get something working that you only need once in a while... Um, this is WHY there are adaptors - what's the use of sticking on a port if people are going to rarely use it?
- If your adapters are getting lost or break easily, maybe you have to take better care of your stuff. It's not hard.
- Nobody LIKES adapters, but isn't it better to have a port that can become MANY things instead of just one? But, no, adaptors are eeeeeeeeevil!
- Again with the Apple hate. I've got news for you: Apple isn't the only one that uses adaptors!!! I use adaptors on my work Dell laptop ALL THE TIME!
Not really, but moving on..
AGAIN... not just Apple. Google, Microsoft, Apple, and ADOBE (the makers of Flash) will ALL stop supporting or making the plug-in available. Read up on it. If you want to keep using Flash, you will have to hang on to an old web-browser because none of the major players will support it.
Yes, EVERYONE has the ability to get FREE online storage. And yes, schools and businesses DO have internet access. Don't try to tell me we're living in some sort of dark age where people don't have access to the internet and free tools.
I'm not arguing that you won't need physical storage, I'm saying there are LOTS of options that are cross-platform. But yes, let's bring up the time you went on vacation and there wasn't internet access - there are still a LOT of options for storage - they're out there but you have to be open to the fact that, in order to use the latest tech you might need an adapter.
Wow. Just wow.
Let me expand on this:
In the end, I can clearly see this is just Apple-Hate instead of trying to make an argument for or against adaptors and other services.
- You have to pay extra to get something working that you only need once in a while... Um, this is WHY there are adaptors - what's the use of sticking on a port if people are going to rarely use it?
- If your adapters are getting lost or break easily, maybe you have to take better care of your stuff. It's not hard.
- Nobody LIKES adapters, but isn't it better to have a port that can become MANY things instead of just one? But, no, adaptors are eeeeeeeeevil!
- Again with the Apple hate. I've got news for you: Apple isn't the only one that uses adaptors!!! I use adaptors on my work Dell laptop ALL THE TIME!
We still use CDs and DVDs quite a bit at work. It's a cheap, fast and easy way to give clients large reports.No. There will always be flash plug in after. You will be amazed to see how many people still using floppy disk and CD drive these day.