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Well I’m surprised. The SCOTUS agreed to hear the appeal on January 10, with the ban still scheduled to take place January 19 and a new administration taking office January 20.

No mention of a stay from the SCOTUS.

I guess ByteDance can hope the ban will be ignored and the new Trump administration would just pardon all who ignored the ban. Seems far fetched and a bit insane but who can tell
 
I’d agree with you but then the older generations aren’t any better, nobody can top boomers for sheer ignorance and gullibility. Social media in general is a cancer, ALL of it, ban tik tok and all that garbage will just move on to instagram or Snapchat.

Kids grow up in the society that was made for them by previous generations, China didn’t dumb down America. I always hear we used to have the best education system in the world, maybe if we had put tens of trillions of dollars into schools, instead of playing global cop we wouldn’t be in this situation? That’s sort of off topic but I clearly see the connection, my high school was so broke we had one copy machine for almost 5,000 students. And when it was working it printed out unidentifiable blobs of ink, it was insanity, but we had limitless funds for tanks and airplanes that not even the military needed. Somehow I don’t think that’s an issue in first world nations, or in China. This decline will only get worse as in China kids are learning engineering before they can walk (exaggeration I know), and American kids will be taught religion and how Dinosaurs walked the Earth with man. 😅
Boomers and Gen X/Y are gullible (spreading fake news / scams etc ...) but fewer "addicted" to brain rot.

Teens and Z,Alpha on the other hand will happily to sit and watch literally anything that moves on a screen regardless of the content, probably with subtitles even if the audio is in their native tongue. Skibidy Toilet - WTF.

The US is only one country where Social media is screwing up kids, other countries that have decent education systems are also suffering, maybe not at the same rate - it'd be interesting to see a study on the targeting of Tik Tok US vs Switzerland for example.

It's not just education systems at fault, it's what kids are exposed to daily in (primarily western society) on TV/Social media and the streets.

Growing up the most graphic movie scenes I think we ever saw was RoboCop 1 and 2 which were both R-rated at the time. The 2014 Robocop was PG and had probably one of the most "disturbing" scenes of realism I've ever witnessed in a movie with the brain in a tank.

I'm genuinely not someone who shys away from ultra violence in movies, being well adjusted n' all. Anything by Tarantino, Dexter, Hannibal, The Boys and lots of ultra violent Japanese flicks.

But highly graphic violence, death, sex and the extreme levels of detail in shows and movies on TV / Streaming are not anomalies anymore. There's no 'late night nasties", instead what you want when you want 24/7 in extreme High Def on massive screens, not some 20" 520 line CRT with rolling static.

Media in general now feeds on the the sicker, primal side of human nature which in years gone by would have been experienced by a tiny minority of society e.g. soldiers / emergency services / hunters ... and it screwed many of them up. We're basically bypassing PTSD by normalizing the disgusting and adult sides of humanity from an early age.

Honestly I think AU's social media ban is a well intended plan that will likely. The genie is already out of the bottle, kids will find a way unless the platforms become dormant of enough of the Rot. Foreign unfriendly states fanning the flames in whatever direction they want is not the 'help" that broken societies need.

Youtube looks like open university compared to the rest of the platforms (except shorts which are almost as bad).

The BlackMirror episode 'Nosedive" is a scarily accurate description of where we are headed if "something" isn't done to clip the wings of social media companies' grasp of humanity.


On that pleasant society is screwed rant, happy holidays 😂
 
I couldn’t care less. His wallet will be much thicker and his ego will be much bigger in 2029, which of course is his only goal. As long as people don’t die because they are drinking his 'cool-aid' I dont care. The U.S. is about to demonstrate Darwinism in its biggest experiment yet. Good luck.

The Darwin Awards. Brought to you by the White House…
If you say this is his only goal, or even that this is a motive, it’s clear you are not open minded enough to watch his interviews and speeches to a more full extent and not little snapshots on reels. He’d rather be on one of his many properties living the end of his life in peace. He’s said numerous times this is about us and not him. And he said as recently as last week that he’s going to treat EVERYONE the same as the “maga Americans” and wants EVERYONE to thrive when they asked him how he was going to handle the people that oppose him and want him to fail. He’s so far from perfect and he does have ego, but I genuinely believe he wants this country to prosper. Not to mention… don’t you want someone a little direct and and intimidating running our country? The WORLD needs a strong America. Kamala would not have been respected by a single world leader. Anyway, I don’t expect to change anyone’s opinion in a macrumors political thread. But I am thanking God that he won over Kamala. Even places like extreme California turned republican by 10+ points! He won every single swing state. And impossible, he won the popular vote. People are waking up. And a few like jimmy Kimmel and Ellen DeGeneres are leaving. Buh-bye! Crazy how the Dems in power thought celebrities and elitists we’re relatable to the American people. I mean Meghan the stallion (who I don’t even hate) was on stage at the convention twerking while rapping the lyrics, “I get money; I’m a star”. What a joke!
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Considering the former USSR has hard-captured the entire conservative messaging apparatus, that’s the least of our woes.
Ah the old "every conservative and right-wing news outlet loves Russia and Putin" nonsense that's largely been found to be inaccurate. But fine I'll play that game if you want to drag me into it. TikTok was proven to have gotten a sizable portion of young people last year to praise and quote Osama bin Laden's open letter to America that he penned around the time of 9/11. Many of the student-led newspapers at "prestigious" universities read like something that would've been printed c. 1939 in Berlin. If you want to talk about various platforms and outlets being ideologically captured, start with those first before I take you even the least bit seriously.
 
Just because you say it’s evil doesn’t make it that way.… 😂
You're right. Good thing I have like all of NATO, both parties of US government, and basically the entire western hemisphere, in agreement with me. Because you'd have to be living under a rock not to see that they're evil. Running actual concentration camps, spying on anyone and everyone in their own homes, and the idea of invading a sovereign nationstate just because they think it's theirs to take makes their mouths water. If that's not evil to you then my god I'd hate to see what you think is evil...
 
What hoax was that?
The media and the left (essentially the same thing really) still claim that Trump was referring to neo-nazis at a rally in Charlottesville, VA back in 2017 when he said "you have very fine people on both sides" during a press conference after the rally took place. When in reality he was actually referring to the people on both sides of the argument of whether or not to take down statues of certain historical figures in public spaces, which is what prompted the rally in the first place. Even prominent left-wing outlets like Snopes have confirmed this to be the case yet still many of the high profile names on the left peddle this misinformation. For example Barack Obama, who I used to respect a great deal, recently repeated this when campaigning for Kamala.
 
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Well I’m surprised. The SCOTUS agreed to hear the appeal on January 10, with the ban still scheduled to take place January 19 and a new administration taking office January 20.

No mention of a stay from the SCOTUS.

I guess ByteDance can hope the ban will be ignored and the new Trump administration would just pardon all who ignored the ban. Seems far fetched and a bit insane but who can tell

Justice Roberts handles emergency appeals in the DC circuit, so it was his decision to bring forward. 9 days of available oral arguments before the ban, so basically the last ByteDance.
 
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You're right. Good thing I have like all of NATO, both parties of US government, and basically the entire western hemisphere, in agreement with me. Because you'd have to be living under a rock not to see that they're evil. Running actual concentration camps, spying on anyone and everyone in their own homes, and the idea of invading a sovereign nationstate just because they think it's theirs to take makes their mouths water. If that's not evil to you then my god I'd hate to see what you think is evil...
We’re not talking about the U.S. are we? Just checking. Fun fact. Did you know, even though they have 1/8th of the population of the 2 most populated countries in the world, China & India. (2.8B v 330M) : they have more people in prison than both of those put together? Winning!

Ah the old "every conservative and right-wing news outlet loves Russia and Putin" nonsense that's largely been found to be inaccurate. But fine I'll play that game if you want to drag me into it. TikTok was proven to have gotten a sizable portion of young people last year to praise and quote Osama bin Laden's open letter to America that he penned around the time of 9/11. Many of the student-led newspapers at "prestigious" universities read like something that would've been printed c. 1939 in Berlin. If you want to talk about various platforms and outlets being ideologically captured, start with those first before I take you even the least bit seriously.
Despite you making that stuff up because it’s just gaff without facts, here is Todays news at the Moscow Times (from Trumps right hand bro'). Putin says he’s ready to talk with Trump 'anytime' about Ukraine Peace Deal

You seriously couldn’t even make this stuff up. Ukraine are screwed now. Apparently an Evil dictator and an Evil republican are in bed together… again. BTW if you’re going to make up stuff and put it up as fact, check it and link it. Because your claims aren’t actually believable.

If you say this is his only goal, or even that this is a motive, it’s clear you are not open minded enough to watch his interviews and speeches to a more full extent and not little snapshots on reels. He’d rather be on one of his many properties living the end of his life in peace. He’s said numerous times this is about us and not him. And he said as recently as last week that he’s going to treat EVERYONE the same as the “maga Americans” and wants EVERYONE to thrive when they asked him how he was going to handle the people that oppose him and want him to fail. He’s so far from perfect and he does have ego, but I genuinely believe he wants this country to prosper. Not to mention… don’t you want someone a little direct and and intimidating running our country? The WORLD needs a strong America. Kamala would not have been respected by a single world leader. Anyway, I don’t expect to change anyone’s opinion in a macrumors political thread. But I am thanking God that he won over Kamala. Even places like extreme California turned republican by 10+ points! He won every single swing state. And impossible, he won the popular vote. People are waking up. And a few like jimmy Kimmel and Ellen DeGeneres are leaving. Buh-bye! Crazy how the Dems in power thought celebrities and elitists we’re relatable to the American people. I mean Meghan the stallion (who I don’t even hate) was on stage at the convention twerking while rapping the lyrics, “I get money; I’m a star”. What a joke!
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So many mistruths and chest beating b.s. there, so…. If you say so. One word summarises how dangerous this person is, and it isn’t inciting morons to storm the capitol because that’s 6 words. Hydroxychloroquine. Believe what you believe because I couldn’t care less. Good luck to you.

Happiest place in the world is Finland, 7 years in a row. The world does not need any America, let alone one that has leader who wants to be Putin on a horse.

Meghan who? Hey, genuine question and speaking of celebrity buy-ins. Why would you have 2 people in charge of the Department of Government Efficiency? 😂😂
 
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The media and the left (essentially the same thing really) still claim that Trump was referring to neo-nazis at a rally in Charlottesville, VA back in 2017 when he said "you have very fine people on both sides" during a press conference after the rally took place. When in reality he was actually referring to the people on both sides of the argument of whether or not to take down statues of certain historical figures in public spaces, which is what prompted the rally in the first place. Even prominent left-wing outlets like Snopes have confirmed this to be the case yet still many of the high profile names on the left peddle this misinformation. For example Barack Obama, who I used to respect a great deal, recently repeated this when campaigning for Kamala.
That’s called plausible deniability.
 
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We’re not talking about the U.S. are we? Just checking. Fun fact. Did you know, even though they have 1/8th of the population of the 2 most populated countries in the world, China & India. (2.8B v 330M) : they have more people in prison than both of those put together? Winning!
Ok? Wth does that have to do with anything in my comment you quoted? Anyway, Chinese government: still evil.
 
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Despite you making that stuff up because it’s just gaff without facts, here is Todays news at the Moscow Times (from Trumps right hand bro'). Putin says he’s ready to talk with Trump 'anytime' about Ukraine Peace Deal

You seriously couldn’t even make this stuff up. Ukraine are screwed now. Apparently an Evil dictator and an Evil republican are in bed together… again.
So I'm making this stuff up yet I "seriously couldn't even make this stuff up." Wow. I mean just..wow 😂

Wait so you DON'T want the US President talking to a dictator about how to end a war he started? Err ok then 😂
And I couldn't give a 💩 about anything that's put out by state media from Beijing or Moscow, and I'm sure as hell not clicking a link that routes me through any of their servers lmao 🤣

BTW if you’re going to make up stuff and put it up as fact, check it and link it. Because your claims aren’t actually believable.
If you insist. Btw it would've only taken literally 30 seconds to google this yourself. It was the top result...
 
So I'm making this stuff up yet I "seriously couldn't even make this stuff up." Wow. I mean just..wow 😂

Wait so you DON'T want the US President talking to a dictator about how to end a war he started? Err ok then 😂
And I couldn't give a 💩 about anything that's put out by state media from Beijing or Moscow, and I'm sure as hell not clicking a link that routes me through any of their servers lmao 🤣
Clearly I was talking different things. Reading comprehension is important in a thread.

So I'm making this stuff up yet I "seriously couldn't even make this stuff up." Wow. I mean just..wow 😂

Wait so you DON'T want the US President talking to a dictator about how to end a war he started? Err ok then 😂
And I couldn't give a 💩 about anything that's put out by state media from Beijing or Moscow, and I'm sure as hell not clicking a link that routes me through any of their servers lmao 🤣


If you insist. Btw it would've only taken literally 30 seconds to google this yourself. It was the top result...
See that wasn’t that hard was it. I consider you have improved your ability in this thread. Kudos to you.

China is no less evil than the U.S. Kowtowing to lies is not my jam. But you do you.
 
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Clearly I was talking different things. Reading comprehension is important in a thread.


See that wasn’t that hard was it. I consider you have improved your ability in this thread. Kudos to you.

China is no less evil than the U.S. Kowtowing to lies is not my jam. But you do you.
Adorable. Simp for China all you want, bud. I hope for your sake that you're not American because that will be rather awkward for you when China provokes us into war with them.
 
Adorable. Simp for China all you want, bud. I hope for your sake that you're not American because that will be rather awkward for you when China provokes us into war with them.
You’re a funny person! Simp? Lolol!

You do know if China provoke America, and America responds, that’s on America right?
 
this move was expected. Question is whether or not the SC will her them.
The incoming POTUS made some comments today liking TikTok and getting some of the votes of younger(ish) people ...

A big mess, popcorn is on sale at Costco ;)
He was for a TikTok ban until he was against it. He’s for tariffs until he’s against them. He created a vaccine but he’s against vaccines. He wants to make Greenland, Canada and the Panama Canal part of the U.S. until he changes his mind about that.
 
You’re a funny person! Simp? Lolol!

You do know if China provoke America, and America responds, that’s on America right?
So you are not American then. Got it.

Well if China invades Taiwan, which is a sovereign nation state regardless of what you want to tell yourself, it would be economically and morally incumbent on us to respond with the entire force of the US military. And boy would I hate to be on the other end of that…
 
So you are not American then. Got it.

Well if China invades Taiwan, which is a sovereign nation state regardless of what you want to tell yourself, it would be economically and morally incumbent on us to respond with the entire force of the US military.
So when you say Economically and Morally, you actually mean economically. The U.S. have not really been in the Moral business since before slavery when it committed genocide on Indian Tribes. The flaw in your (ahem) assertion is that there is no incumbency on the U.S. to do anything.

Hmmm Taiwan. Where 2.5% of residence are Taiwanese, 95% Chinese. Yeah okay. Great example 😂. The U.S. does not even consider Taiwan a Sovereign Country so I’m not sure where you’re getting that info from. Maybe check the history to understand where Taiwan actually sits. There are only 10 small countries who consider Taiwan Sovereign.

And this stupid idea about China invading Taiwan. Whats with that? Oh, you’re talking about physical intimidation to try and get people to choose to change willingly to a different party. Yes, I’m still talking about China and Taiwan, not the Elephant and Donkey.

And boy would I hate to be on the other end of that…
Because physical threats by a country are a China thing? Did you re-read this before you posted? Team America: World Police. ... yeah!

Sometimes they need to mind their own business. Why would they take on a China in their own back yard, who also have the support of North Korea AND Russia, when they won’t even take on Russia over their invasion of Ukraine when they’re on their own? Let’s just calm the farm and stop the chest beating.
 
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