Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Trump's final speech to his MAGA crowd is making the news. The things he said, it really comes across as a dicktator. Trump overriding due process and the Supreme Court and reinstating TikTok is a dicktator move. What is the point of having a President if this person can override your Congress, Supreme Court,...all of it? Trump is essentially going to ignore and circumvent your Congress and invoke some kind emergency act to place 25% tariffs on imports from Canada and Mexico.
 
The actual scary thing here is that Trump is now requesting a 50% ownership interest of TikTok by ... the United States government. That is something only a Communist country typically does. Governments do not own private enterprises in a capitalist country.
Not only Communist, also dicktator oligarchy. As soon as these people get into power their hidden agenda project is staying in power by all means necessary. For example, Elon's purchase of Twitter to influence the election.
 
  • Angry
  • Haha
Reactions: bondr006 and SR7000
Except in Tinker it was a public school district (I.e. the government) punishing students for the content of their message (I.e. what they were saying), not where they said it.
The case and SCOTUS decision was regarding where (public schools) the students were exercising their 1st Amendment rights, not what (wearing black arm bands) they were saying.


The court found that the First Amendment applied to public schools, and school officials could not censor student speech unless it disrupted the educational process


That's why SCOTUS wrote "It can hardly be argued that either students or teachers shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate."


Regardless, the point is: your rights are being abridged when you're told where (or even when) you can exercise them.

"Hey! You can't protest on this street corner. Go use that street corner instead."


:rolleyes:
 
Last edited:
It is important to be free to choose what entertains us. If people want to waste their lives with this interpretation of entertainment, so be it. Identity protection is more important. If people value personal safety, they won't use apps that sacrifice or cause harm to their personal data exposure. I don't use these social platforms; I do not have the time to waste that others do. That doesn't mean those who use it are boring or mundane. But why do I need to see at times utter junk and useless Rhetoric these social platforms have to offer. I choose to do better by not utilizing my entertainment time reading these platforms
 
Trump's final speech to his MAGA crowd is making the news. The things he said, it really comes across as a dicktator. Trump overriding due process and the Supreme Court and reinstating TikTok is a dicktator move. What is the point of having a President if this person can override your Congress, Supreme Court,...all of it? Trump is essentially going to ignore and circumvent your Congress and invoke some kind emergency act to place 25% tariffs on imports from Canada and Mexico.
The Supreme Court didn't mandate that TikTok be blocked, they just said that the forced sale did not infringe on the petitioners' (TikTok) constitutional rights.

Additionally, bills passed through Congress in the past give the President the authority to enact tariffs, Biden did the same thing in his presidency. This isn't a statement in support of the tariffs, this is just legal fact.
 
Last edited:
They can not return it to the App Store because that would violate the law. TikTok, on the other hand, is now openly violating the law. The assurances of the upcoming president mean nothing regarding the validity of the law.

It’s true, their hosting providers are taking a risk. There are loopholes Trump can probably use in the short term, but there’s no reason for Apple to take that risk. They don’t make any money from TikTok being available. Maybe IAP. But their hosting providers make way more from it being online.

Probably not a coincidence that one of those providers is Oracle. Larry Ellison has been sticking his nose in this issue as well.
 
... there’s no reason for Apple to take that risk. They don’t make any money from TikTok being available.
Apple might not make any money directly from TikTok, but they do indirectly. If Apple's App Store doesn't have the apps people want, but the Google PlayStore does, people could trade in their Apple devices for Android devices.

How many less iPhones would Apple have sold if TikTok was never available on their App Store?
 
The Supreme Court didn't mandate that TikTok be blocked, they just said that the forced sale did not infringe on the rights of the petitioners' (TikTok) constitutional rights.

Additionally, bills already passed through Congress in the past give the President the authority to enact tariffs, Biden did the same thing in his presidency. This isn't a statement in support of the tariffs, this is just legal fact.
Right, your Congress gave the President the authority to enact tariffs. But, I would guess there has to be quite exceptional reasons for a President to singly invoke tariffs. Invoking tariffs against Canada & Mexico (a.k.a trading partners with trade agreements with the US) should go through your Congress. In this case Trump is using drugs and illegal border crossing to circumvent your Congress; dicktatorial.

Trump's drugs and illegal border crossing schtick is total Bull💩. A lot of drugs and guns flow into Canada from the US. I've seen news reports stating more than 70% of illegal handguns in Canada are coming from the US.
 
Last edited:
Really? We can start with postal services, follow with railroads, move on to utilities for starters.
You misunderstand the very exceptions you cite. Sad. The US government does not take ownership interests in private companies. The postal service is not a private company, and neither is Amtrak, which is federally chartered. The utilities are not for-profit enterprises and exist pursuant to regulation. Demanding ownership of a privately owned for-profit companies is a Communist tactic (reminiscent of the central planners of the Soviet Union) -- not to mention a violation of the 5th Amendment. The only exceptions are typically in bailouts -- like Chrysler -- in order to save the company from liquidation. Pro or con Trump, this proposal is scary for the republic.
 
Apple might not make any money directly from TikTok, but they do indirectly. If Apple's App Store doesn't have the apps people want, but the Google PlayStore does, people could trade in their Apple devices for Android devices.

How many less iPhones would Apple have sold if TikTok was never available on their App Store?

Sure, if it was available generally. In this specific case, pretty sure the risk outweighs the reward, at least for the next few days to see what happens.

And as we know, the App Stores are basically cartels so they will likely stay in lockstep on this one.
 
  • Disagree
Reactions: frenchcamp49er
Sure, if it was available generally. In this specific case, pretty sure the risk outweighs the reward, at least for the next few days to see what happens.

And as we know, the App Stores are basically cartels so they will likely stay in lockstep on this one.
$5,000 per user fine. So yes, risk absolutely outweighs the reward.
 
  • Like
Reactions: CarAnalogy
One of the very few things Biden got right, I am very disappointed in Trump saving TikTok.
He’s not saving it. He’s just giving them more time to sell. Up to this point they refused to sell. In order to get the 90-day extension the law says that they must make an intent to sell. This situation ends with it being banned or sold to an American entity regardless of what Trump does. He cannot override federal law and he can’t just pick and choose which laws to enforce.
 
  • Like
Reactions: amartinez1660
Trump in 2016: „..China..“„..China..“„..China..“„..China..“, creates Ban that Huawai and others cannot use android anymore.

Trump in 2025: „oh, a Chinese Spy app, yes please!“
Huawei is still and always has been using Android…
 
Was quite entertained by the TikTok influencers having a meltdown on YouTube.

Obviously scared of having to, I don’t know, find a real job?
What's a real job?

In Russian, we have an edgy saying that roughly translates as "The free market will sort it out". There are content consumers and content creators. Consumers want content; creators want to reach people. A textbook case of supply meeting demand. Their job is to entertain people, and it's easier said than done.

For example, as much as I disrespect boring capitalist shills (MKBHD, iJustine, etc.), people genuinely enjoy watching polished, non-critical reviews of the latest tech on YouTube. These folks have mastered that niche—not because of luck, but because they excel at it: early reviews, insane production values, reasonable charisma etc. It's a «real job» by any metric.
 
He’s not saving it. He’s just giving them more time to sell. Up to this point they refused to sell. In order to get the 90-day extension the law says that they must make an intent to sell. This situation ends with it being banned or sold to an American entity regardless of what Trump does. He cannot override federal law and he can’t just pick and choose which laws to enforce.

It’s not going to be sold. Biden and Trump already showed their hand.

TikTok voluntarily shut down before the deadline. Biden said he wouldn’t enforce the law. Trump brought TikTok back. Anyone can see who has the upper hand. China will not sell the code nor their playbook. Company is worthless without the code.

Trump literally overrode federal law already. The extension needed to be before January 19. He does not even hold office until January 20. So how could an extension be possible?

The reality is he is king now and will choose what laws to enforce. This will end with the law being repealed or simply not enforced.
 
The issue for Apple, Google, Oracle, etc. is that the law allows the Attorney General is allowed to go back five years to calculate fines. And the fine is $5000 per user. Even if Trump’s attorney general doesn’t enforce the law who is to say his successor won’t too?

It’s corporate malpractice to set yourself up for even the potential for that kind of hit. Like “get sued by shareholders” level of corporate malpractice. So either it gets sold, Congress changes the law, or it’s going away. It might get a 90-day reprieve (and even that is questionable), but I don’t think the status who can go on for much longer than that.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Mr. Jenkins
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.