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Regardless of the politics at play, it's clear that the EU law that compels Apple to allow alternative app marketplaces or web distribution is needed in the US and the rest of the world. If you are in the EU or if you own an Android device, you can get TikTok outside of the constrained walls of the Apple App Store or Google Play Store.
 
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As opposed to Biden, who when the Supreme Court ruled that he was unable to forgive student loans, gave them the finger and did it anyway.
The Supreme Court's decision was about one specific debt forgiveness program under the HEROES Act, not the power to forgive student loans broadly.

The Court ruled that a specific student loan forgiveness program was unlawful because the HEROES Act did not authorize that particular program.

That one program was the issue before the Court so the Court did not opine on any other statutory power to forgive student debt.
 
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Saw on the news how a former "ER nurse" quit her job and went into TikTok full time. It's like, really all that education and training, doing something essential and now you're TikToking all day? I mean sure if you don't like the stress of the Emergency Room, find another nursing role in a better environment, but don't just waste yourself away like that. We need nurses, we don't need influencers on a damn app.

I mean we all go to work to make money and nurses are almost universally underpaid and undervalued.
 
Edit: Ah, forget it. I posted something, but I think I’ll keep my political opinions to myself. I wish this forum had a delete button.

When you pay $50/year you might get a delete button. At least it was the case when it was only $25/year.
 
Dear MacRumors, please implement optional geo filters for political articles so those of us residing in the US don’t see chatter from irrelevant users.

Hmm? Irrelevant? You post this on a thread about a "foreign" service operating in the US, and somehow foreigners are not permitted to speak about it? First, isn't free speech a central theme here, yet you want to filter out anyone that you may not agree with simply because they were not born in the US? Help me understand.

I'm Canadian and follow US politics closer than our own. Mainly for the entertainment, but one can't ignore how influential the US is over the global marketplace.

Guess I'm saying that you can't have it both ways.
 
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I have a very real senior-level job in a marketing agency for Fortune500 clients. Specifically, I film and edit TikTok ads for the largest CPG brands and stores in the US. There’s a whole team of us with families who rely on our jobs for our salaries and healthcare.

Companies hire us for TikTok 5x as often as IG, FB, and YT combined.

Marketing budgets would eventually shift after a ban, but likely half of my team would be laid off before that played out.

You said it yourself... companies would adapt. It's really not the end of the world as there was a world before TikTok.

Look where we are... a foreign app having huge influence over US politics. Doesn't that scare you?
 
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This doesn't seem to work. I see it on the front page, in the forums and am obviously able to write in here.
 
Don't forget, it was because of "Trumps efforts" that this ban almost came to pass already.

Classic bait and switch for a PR exercise. Turning all the left leaning Gen-Z's into MAGA enthusiasts.

Probably paid for it with $TRUMP
 
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Free speech and 170 million Americans and 7 million small American businesses win 💪💪💪💪💪💪

Couching it as a free speech issue is simply false. The issue is national security and the fact that the Chinese Communist Party can use or is using social networking apps to spy, track, and build dossiers on Americans. You are perfectly free disagree with the level of threat and whether it merits the ban. Trump thought it was a national security issue when he signed executive order 13942 in 2020, which prohibited transactions between US citizens and ByteDance. The overwhelming majority of both Republicans and Democrats in Congress who voted for the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act also cited it as a national security as the issue.
 
Back then it was “election interference,” then it became “a national security threat” when people needed to change the subject from inflation and Luigi.

The timing doesn't line up. The Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act was voted on March 13, 2024. Luigi murdered the CEO of United Healthcare on Dec 4, 2024.
 
and it will stay off the App Store until there is something in writing from POTUS that will say something to that effect.

If Apple is smart, it won't trust anything in writing from Trump. It should go by the letter of the law, otherwise it gives Trump's DOJ a way to go after Apple.

Given that

(1) Apple could be fined $5k for each user downloading or updating TikTok through Apple's App Store;​
(2) There are approximately 170 million TikTok users in the US;​
(3) iPhones have about a 55% market share for smart phones in the US,​
a rough back of the envelope calculation puts the maximum potential fine at over $46 billion.

Why give Trump the ammunition to extort more protection money from Apple/Cook?
 
Biden has been a politician since his young age. It’s Trump who is not a politician. That’s why he never talks the way like other politicians. He talks like a common man.

In my 45 years, living mainly in red states and having a very right-wing family, I've never heard anyone that talks like Trump.

He's not a politician in the classical sense, but he is no common man and doesn't talk like one.
 
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Crazy how China negotiated this one. They called the bluff, did not sell and then forced the US to extend the deadline.

“The Art of the Deal”
 
Sounds like someone doesn’t understand checks and balances.

Given the fealty of Republicans to Trump and that they control all three branches of government, the country has a new system called "checks and imbalances". It is when writing checks tips the scales of justice.
 
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You misunderstand the very exceptions you cite. Sad. The US government does not take ownership interests in private companies. The postal service is not a private company, and neither is Amtrak, which is federally chartered. The utilities are not for-profit enterprises and exist pursuant to regulation.

Well, by definition, anything owned by the government is not private; my point was the government does own enterprises that directly compete with private enterprises. Amtrak is somewhat unique in the US owned all the preferred stock and railroad companies its common stock. Also, not all utilities are not for profit, even though they are regulated.

Demanding ownership of a privately owned for-profit companies is a Communist tactic (reminiscent of the central planners of the Soviet Union) -- not to mention a violation of the 5th Amendment.

First, the government is not demanding ownership of TikTok, just a change in ownership on national security grounds. That is not unusual or unique, just it is a much more public action with TikTok.

While the 5th argument is interesting, it's a bit of a stretch, this is no different than shutting down an enterprise because of say fraud and depriving people of a place to speak. They are still free to speak, jut need a different outlet.

The only exceptions are typically in bailouts -- like Chrysler -- in order to save the company from liquidation.

Personally, I think the government should always get an ownership stake in a bailout, and sell it once the company recovers.

Pro or con Trump, this proposal is scary for the republic.

Of all the scary things, this is one of the least.
 
This will give Apple more time to practice removing apps from the App Store and tweaking the code to make it faster. :rolleyes:
 
So tired of all this crap. Like, nothing can exist unless the orange-a**hole approves it. Honestly, I'm resisting this term more than the first. This man is dangerous and mentally ill. Shame on any business that supports his hateful efforts. We are now living the 1984 movie in reality. I won't reply to any comments, I couldn't care less.
 
Oracle and Akamai have seemingly taken Trump at his word of "no prosecution" by continuing to work with TikTok in the US, while Apple and Google have gone the other way and have refused to add the app to their stores.

Will be interesting to see how this all plays out
 
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