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lol, now Trump will take full credit for rescuing the hostages and now TikTok.
three hostages... and when it all falls apart, which surely everyone expects it will very soon, will he also take credit for that? :)
 
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the world wants to blink and have the next four years disappear.
this flip flopping is just the start of your turmoil.
hold on tight...
 
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kinda think its better for everyone having tic Tok being banned but I support free speech, trump hasn't even started yet and he has done more than someone else
If you support free speech, you wouldn't support suppressing a platform full of speech. But I guess it only matters when your right to free speech is threatened...
 
Trump created the ban then gave himself credit for negotiating its postponement. Textbook narcissistic manipulation. Meanwhile his mouthpieces are claiming the ban was Biden’s idea. 🤦‍♂️
Trump didn't ban it. He attempted to when the servers were in China. He failed at it. Now that the servers are in the US he wants to keep it around. Facts aren't that hard to find.
 
Trump has stated that he wants the US government to buy at least 50% of TikTok, but preferably more.


A 50% ownership stake sounds like he wants to exert the same kind of control over media that the CCP exerts over all Chinese companies.

Politics in America is getting weird when the party that is supposed to be vehemently against any hint of socialism or communism wants government ownership of for-profit media.
 
Per TFA:
he wants the popular social media app to be at least half owned by U.S. investors.

The article yes, the original post by Trump, not so much:


I would like the United States to have a 50% ownership position in a joint venture. By doing this, we save TikTok, keep it in good hands and allow it to say up.
Therefore, my initial thought is a joint venture between the current owners and/or new owners whereby the U.S. gets a 50% ownership in a joint venture set up between the U.S. and whichever purchase we so choose.

At his victory rally he said, again, that the US would own 50%:

So I said very simply, a joint venture. So, if TikTok is worth nothing, zero without an approval, you know you don’t approve, they’re out of business, they’re worth nothing.

If you do approve, they’re worth like a trillion dollars, they’re worth some crazy number. So I said, I’ll approve, but let the United States of America own 50% of TikTok. I’m approving on behalf of the United States.

So they’ll have a partner, the United States, and they’ll have a lot of bidders and the United States will do what we call a joint venture. And there’s no risk, we’re not putting up any money. All we’re doing is giving them the approval without which they don’t have anything. So, I don’t know, it sounds like that works. What do you think, good? So, whether you like TikTok or not, we’re gonna make a lot of money.
 
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Well, if he does somehow unilaterally overrule a bi-partisan act of congress, then we'll know the USA has become a dictatorship. Will be interesting to see how this pans out.
The sorry trend just continues the Biden policy of making a mockery out of law. The most recent example, of course, is his use of a pardon as a prophylactic against future prosecution, which is novel. Biden has demonstrated no regard for legal constraint or the constitution whatsoever.
 
Im not from USA, but wasn’t during Trumps presidency when this TikTok thing started?
Yes. How stupid can we (the US) be to think now Trump is somehow the saviour of tiktok.
They can not return it to the App Store because that would violate the law. TikTok, on the other hand, is now openly violating the law. The assurances of the upcoming president mean nothing regarding the validity of the law.
This.
 
The article yes, the original post by Trump, not so much:

Yea, as with many things his position is , well fluid and subject to change, depending on the audience; so his real position is often never known, although I think sometimes even he doesn't know it until he actually does something.

The most recent example, of course, is his use of a pardon as a prophylactic against future prosecution, which is novel.

Hardly, Ford did it for Nixon.

Biden signed the bill

However, up until right before Biden did, he was advocating a ban.

However, the real issue with a sale is who will get the algorithms TiKTok uses to display content? Without those, having the user base is pretty worthless, and if ByteDance gives up those TiKTok loses any advantage they have. I doubt they will give them up, hence the lack of interest in buying TikTok by the major social media companies; who probably feel the are better of spending the money it would take to buy TikTok with rolling their own.
 
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A 50% ownership stake sounds like he wants to exert the same kind of control over media that the CCP exerts over all Chinese companies.

Politics in America is getting weird when the party that is supposed to be vehemently against any hint of socialism or communism wants government ownership of for-profit media.
The US already exerts a level of control over US media and social media. That’s the primary issue with TikTok as it exists. The US government has no control over what content is pushed by it’s algorithm like it does the US apps.
 
I had the good fortune to visit China. A good experience overall. Their technology keeping an eye on everything, best in the world. Therefore, would I ever use an app like TikTok, never. Not only for my own security but, also for the greater good.
 
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Saw on the news how a former "ER nurse" quit her job and went into TikTok full time. It's like, really all that education and training, doing something essential and now you're TikToking all day? I mean sure if you don't like the stress of the Emergency Room, find another nursing role in a better environment, but don't just waste yourself away like that. We need nurses, we don't need influencers on a damn app.
Almost like all that education and training and doing something essential should provide a really amazing salary. Oh wait this is America.

I'm in my late 30s and I'm likely in the top 10% of successful people I went to school with. Many went into education and medical and they make nothing. I make more than couples do. Even though I do well now my 20s were just one company taking advantage after the next. 10+ years to break 100K with rockstar reviews working day and night. New jobs demanding to know what I make so they could offer 10K more to work for them when the positions low band was higher than the offer. I even worked for a place that said flat out find the folks in a bad situation and offer them just enough to come work for us.

I finally found a company that pays for talent and hard work. Spoiler, it's not a publicly traded company.

This whole Tiktok thing is from a tantrum having Zucky not wanting to stop the madness but to make more money from it.

If you have a problem with people being tired of being held back no matter how hard they work when they can make tons of money on social media then I don't know what to say. You are likely on the privileged level of the spectrum hey maybe even a shareholder yourself. It's amazing that people have a problem with the nurse switching to TikTok but not all the shareholders and companies profiting from it.

If a Chinese company put out a music streaming app that paid artists way more than what's out there would you still be cheering for it be shut down so Spotify and others can continue to profit?

Why is it more profitable to be an influencer than a nurse?
 
If you support free speech, you wouldn't support suppressing a platform full of speech. But I guess it only matters when your right to free speech is threatened...
But this has nothing to do with free speech. What free speech is being suppressed here?

The government is not banning you from voicing your opinion. It’s banning an app from invading your privacy and handing your data over to the Chinese government.

It baffles me so many people get that two mixed up.
 
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Why is it more profitable to be an influencer than a nurse?

I would not be surprised if most don't make more, unless they are at the very top in terms of followers. Some data I found has the median salary of influencers at 15-25K; RN's median was 86K and the lowest 10% 63K.

People see the TiK Tok successes without seeing all the people who grind it out for a less than living wage.
 
Is TikTok really banned in China ? Didn’t find any confirmation
TikTok is already banned in Pakistan, Afghanistan and India – a huge market. It has no presence in China due to its sister app Douyin (ByteDance).
"TikTok, known in mainland China and Hong Kong as Douyin, is a Chinese short-form video-hosting service owned by Chinese internet company ByteDance" (Wikipedia). Means: TikTok is chinese DNA.
 
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Yea, as with many things his position is , well fluid and subject to change, depending on the audience; so his real position is often never known, although I think sometimes even he doesn't know it until he actually does something.



Hardly, Ford did it for Nixon.



However, up until right before Biden did, he was advocating a ban.

However, the real issue with a sale is who will get the algorithms TiKTok uses to display content? Without those, having the user base is pretty worthless, and if ByteDance gives up those TiKTok loses any advantage they have. I doubt they will give them up, hence the lack of interest in buying TikTok by the major social media companies; who probably feel the are better of spending the money it would take to buy TikTok with rolling their own.
When Ford pardoned Nixon everyone knew what the charges were going to be. These recent pardons are a joke considering there were no crimes committed. Heck, there aren't even any investigations. Why would anyone need to pardon their own family going back 11 years? 🤔

On a different note, $5 says there are no magical algorithms at TikTok. It's one huge data center staffed by thousands of Chinese workers categorizing tens of millions of stupid videos. Similar to the scam Amazon Fresh had with their stores and the Indians monitoring the store cameras.
 
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They can not return it to the App Store because that would violate the law. TikTok, on the other hand, is now openly violating the law. The assurances of the upcoming president mean nothing regarding the validity of the law.
And the 90-day extension clause in the law allows for one 90-day extension to be granted by the President if "significant progress" is made towards ByteDance finding a buyer and divesting itself of TikTok. That condition has not been satisfied so there is no legal basis for the extensions, let alone Trump's promise to issue one now that he is legally authorized to issue executive orders (writing this response after the swearing in).
 
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Why are you guys constantly talking about free speech? This ban had nothing to do with free speech. Tick-tock was banned, correctly or not, for sharing user information with a foreign country. Not because what people said on it. Where does the free speech come in? You can voice what ever you want on any other platform, just not one that was deemed a national security threat.
 
Why are you guys constantly talking about free speech? This ban had nothing to do with free speech. Tick-tock was banned, correctly or not, for sharing user information with a foreign country. Not because what people said on it. Where does the free speech come in? You can voice what ever you want on any other platform, just not one that was deemed a national security threat.
You can't voice anything you want on here though. Trust me, I've seen the warnings and comments removed here. So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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