TikTok is Working Again in the U.S., But Still Removed From App Store

[vantelimus]

You mention this as if the national debt has been reduced under the tenure of other recent administrations.

Actually, no. I merely mentioned it without reference to any other presidents. But, if you insist here are the numbers in the change in Debt to GDP ratio according to the CBO:

John F. Kennedy 1961–1963 -8.3%
Lyndon B. Johnson 1963–1969 -8.3%
Richard Nixon 1969–1974 -3.0%
Gerald Ford 1974–1977 +0.2%
Jimmy Carter 1977–1981 -3.3%
Ronald Reagan 1981–1989 +20.6%
George H.W. Bush 1989–1993 +13.0%
Bill Clinton 1993–2001 -9.7%
George W. Bush 2001–2009 +27.8%
Barack Obama 2009–2017 +18.5%
Donald Trump 2017–2021 +39%
Joe Biden 2021–present +24.75% (as of September 2024)

 

[DENZIE]

Dear MacRumors, please implement optional geo filters for political articles so those of us residing in the US don’t see chatter from irrelevant users.

I’d also second this. But to filter out information to us foreigners about a silly man running a sillier country.

 

[jlc1978]

here’s nothing special to TikTok algorithm, their success it’s because they put in front of you what you like

and it does that well because of its algorithms to decide what you will like...

 

[surferfb]

There’s nothing special to TikTok algorithm, their success it’s because they put in front of you what you like, instead of trying to censor everything and give you only approved messages

They’ve already been shown to censor things China doesn’t like.

TikTok, the popular Chinese-owned social network, instructs its moderators to censor videos that mention Tiananmen Square, Tibetan independence, or the banned religious group Falun Gong, according to leaked documents detailing the site’s moderation guidelines.

 

[macconservative]

Trump initiated the ban, by the way 😂

He filed an executive order banning tik tok which was overturned by the court. The current ban was a widely bipartisan law that was signed by President Biden

 

[macconservative]

There will always be a new app consuming everyone's attention. Remember when MySpace was the thing?

 

[Treq]

LOL -- the Democratic Party literally has driven the country to oligarchy. Trump promised to do more than Harris to stop it but you should listen more to J.D. Vance if you are concerned about that particular issue.

No, the Republican Party is driving the rush to oligarchy. Trump's cabinet picks are the richest in history. They are the oligarchs. The Democratic Party is mainly guilty of not effectively opposing it. Trump promises a lot of things, but it doesn't make it true. He also said project 2025 wasn't going to part of his plan... yet here incomes with many of the authors being in his list of cabinet picks. Trump doesn't want to stop oligarchy because he is an oligarch. Remember the nazis called themselves socialists, yet the first thing they did when they took power was disband the unions. So here we are, with oligarchy taking over at a blistering pace, a government completely controlled by the GOP, and people still blaming the democrats for what the republicans are doing. If trump was truly planning on stopping oligarchy from taking over, wouldn't he be doing something to that end instead of urging it on?

 

[Madhatter32]

No, the Republican Party is driving the rush to oligarchy. Trump's cabinet picks are the richest in history. They are the oligarchs. The Democratic Party is mainly guilty of not effectively opposing it. Trump promises a lot of things, but it doesn't make it true. He also said project 2025 wasn't going to part of his plan... yet here incomes with many of the authors being in his list of cabinet picks. Trump doesn't want to stop oligarchy because he is an oligarch. Remember the nazis called themselves socialists, yet the first thing they did when they took power was disband the unions. So here we are, with oligarchy taking over at a blistering pace, a government completely controlled by the GOP, and people still blaming the democrats for what the republicans are doing. If trump was truly planning on stopping oligarchy from taking over, wouldn't he be doing something to that end instead of urging it on?

You cannot be serious. The Democratic party is very much the party of the monied elite, hollywood, the media, and tech. There are many independent reports that confirm this realitiy. To deny it is an exercise in projection and disingenuous to say the least.

And it appears Godwin's Law is immutable. Please just stop with Nazi stuff -- it is disrespect to the our veterans and the descendants of the many millions of people who fell victims to actual Nazis. This kind of talk results from far too much time wasted consuming far left political proganda.

 

[Rob198612]

lol, now Trump will take full credit for rescuing the hostages and now TikTok.

lol you really think Biden worked out the deal??? What are the odds day before trump takes office hostages are released. That’s got Trumps name all over it

 

[Razorpit]

When the incoming President threatens them with investigations, when as you put it, there were no crimes committed, preemptive pardons are not that unreasonable.



Either way, TikTok is likely not to be a very valuable property since a US buyer would lose access to the catorgization process.



There you go. Someone will accuse you of censorship because you want to ignore them.

You actually can at least ignore certain users, which makes MR more readable.



Some people have no idea what the 1st Amendment actually means; many think it actually applies to non-governmental actions.

The "no crimes committed" should have been in quotes. I said that sarcastically. We all know there were. And Biden knows we know there were, thus the pardons.

 

[The1Biz]

It’s pretty hilarious to watch all the “influencers” forced to thank a man they claimed was the worst thing since the third reich just a few weeks ago 😂🤣😂🤣

And the ignorance is proof of why TikTok should be GONE.

I honestly don't get why Tik Tok is a thing. Couldn't Elon just resurrect Vine or something, it's basically the same.

Young people drive the trends of things like this. Social media apps last a few years then the next generation latches on to the new one which becomes hot. They seem to get tired and move on eventually, or they used to.

I don't get how Facebook is even still around or viable as a company.

 

[The1Biz]

In my 45 years, living mainly in red states and having a very right-wing family, I've never heard anyone that talks like Trump.

He's not a politician in the classical sense, but he is no common man and doesn't talk like one.

Honestly his game is no better than a 5 year old. He name calls and threatens to sue if his feathers get ruffled, and then folds if he has to show his cards during discovery.

In college English I tried to get out of doing assignments by doing what he does, talking around subjects, being vague, ranting. It didn't work then, it doesn't work now. In looking back it just just makes you sound stupid and clueless, which is what Trump comes across as. There is no depth in that head.

 

[The1Biz]

A 50% ownership stake sounds like he wants to exert the same kind of control over media that the CCP exerts over all Chinese companies.

Politics in America is getting weird when the party that is supposed to be vehemently against any hint of socialism or communism wants government ownership of for-profit media.

The Republicans got that with Twitter and welcoming of Elon into the fold.

 

[danny842003]

Honestly his game is no better than a 5 year old. He name calls and threatens to sue if his feathers get ruffled, and then folds if he has to show his cards during discovery.

In college English I tried to get out of doing assignments by doing what he does, talking around subjects, being vague, ranting. It didn't work then, it doesn't work now. In looking back it just just makes you sound stupid and clueless, which is what Trump comes across as. There is no depth in that head.

The sad thing is that apparently it does in fact work.

 

[Treq]

You cannot be serious. The Democratic party is very much the party of the monied elite, hollywood, the media, and tech. There are many independent reports that confirm this realitiy. To deny it is an exercise in projection and disingenuous to say the least.

And it appears Godwin's Law is immutable. Please just stop with Nazi stuff -- it is disrespect to the our veterans and the descendants of the many millions of people who fell victims to actual Nazis. This kind of talk results from far too much time wasted consuming far left political proganda.

Yup, you’ve fallen for the fascist propaganda. The Republican Party has been pushing for oligarchy for as long as I’ve been alive. The democrats’ only real crime has been their ineffective response to it… probably because to get elected they had to take the some of the same money the republicans did do get in and stay in. Seriously, you are either in the thrall of their propaganda or complicit in it because to say the Republican Party isn’t the oligarch party, especially after this last election is ludicrous to the extreme. Did you see how many billionaires were at the inauguration? Do you know how many billions are owned by trumps cabinet? Have you seen that the republican policy is always to favor the rich over the working class? They are anti union, they are for cutting taxes on the rich. The Democratic Party is for universal healthcare, wealth tax, progressive tax system, regulation social security etc… not exactly oligarch stuff. Edit: also stop trying to play off the nazi stuff. Elon mush gave a nazi salute at the inauguration for Christ’s sake… TWICE.

 

[Razorpit]

Yup, you’ve fallen for the fascist propaganda. The Republican Party has been pushing for oligarchy for as long as I’ve been alive. The democrats’ only real crime has been their ineffective response to it… probably because to get elected they had to take the some of the same money the republicans did do get in and stay in. Seriously, you are either in the thrall of their propaganda or complicit in it because to say the Republican Party isn’t the oligarch party, especially after this last election is ludicrous to the extreme. Did you see how many billionaires were at the inauguration? Do you know how many billions are owned by trumps cabinet? Have you seen that the republican policy is always to favor the rich over the working class? They are anti union, they are for cutting taxes on the rich. The Democratic Party is for universal healthcare, wealth tax, progressive tax system, regulation social security etc… not exactly oligarch stuff. Edit: also stop trying to play off the nazi stuff. Elon mush gave a nazi salute at the inauguration for Christ’s sake… TWICE.

Were you sleeping all of 2024 when the Democrats did not primary Biden, then pulled him out of the race and replaced him with Harris? That is literally what an oligarchy does. Did you not see how many billionaires were at Biden's events 4 years ago and throughout his presidency? Or don't hose count because they were for "your guy"?

Trump is for cutting taxes on EVERYONE because he understands finance 101. Stop wasting federal money and it is possible. Universal healthcare is a disaster. Ask any US healthcare worker who worked in it pre and post Obama's destruction of it. Ask any Canadian on the US border who is lucky enough to afford the trip to the US to get the care they need, when they need it. Or anyone else around the world who is able to come here and escape their government run system. Progressive taxes kill innovation and manufacturing. I give you the EU as an example. You couldn't be more wrong on almost every thing you mentioned.

Finally, for Christ's sake stop with nazi salute lie.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1881525896160625031

 

[Stromos]

Were you sleeping all of 2024 when the Democrats did not primary Biden, then pulled him out of the race and replaced him with Harris? That is literally what an oligarchy does. Did you not see how many billionaires were at Biden's events 4 years ago and throughout his presidency? Or don't hose count because they were for "your guy"?

Trump is for cutting taxes on EVERYONE because he understands finance 101. Stop wasting federal money and it is possible. Universal healthcare is a disaster. Ask any US healthcare worker who worked in it pre and post Obama's destruction of it. Ask any Canadian on the US border who is lucky enough to afford the trip to the US to get the care they need, when they need it. Or anyone else around the world who is able to come here and escape their government run system. Progressive taxes kill innovation and manufacturing. I give you the EU as an example. You couldn't be more wrong on almost every thing you mentioned.

Finally, for Christ's sake stop with nazi salute lie.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1881525896160625031

So, you would be cool with imitating the same gesture at your place of work, right? Maybe it can be your farewell when you leave each day. Go out to your local mall and say my heart goes out to you and make the same gesture in a crowd. I don't really care what was said and I've seen the clip from multiple angles.

 

[Madhatter32]

So, you would be cool with imitating the same gesture at your place of work, right? Maybe it can be your farewell when you leave each day. Go out to your local mall and say my heart goes out to you and make the same gesture in a crowd. I don't really care what was said and I've seen the clip from multiple angles.

We can do this all day, but I, for one, do not think Taylor Swift is a NeoNazi -- like apparently you do.

 

[Stromos]

We can do this all day, but I, for one, do not think Taylor Swift is a NeoNazi -- like apparently you do.

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A still image vs a dude pounding on his chest throwing his hand out not once but TWICE is a little different. Do we really not see that?

Also, I'll ask you the same thing, so you are totally cool with doing the same gesture as a sign of love to strangers right?

 

[Razorpit]

So, you would be cool with imitating the same gesture at your place of work, right? Maybe it can be your farewell when you leave each day. Go out to your local mall and say my heart goes out to you and make the same gesture in a crowd. I don't really care what was said and I've seen the clip from multiple angles.

Sure I'll do it at my next meeting, and keep you in mind while I'm doing it. Why? Because after I said, "Thank you all for your hard work and supporting our team!" no one in that room would possibly misconstrue it as one of the most evil gestures in the history of mankind.

I work with a group of people that think objectively, and don't have the need for the likes of Rachel Maddow tell them what they saw, or how to think.

I bet after seeing this you'll never see The Village People in the same light. They are super nazis. 🤣

 

[Treq]

Were you sleeping all of 2024 when the Democrats did not primary Biden, then pulled him out of the race and replaced him with Harris? That is literally what an oligarchy does. Did you not see how many billionaires were at Biden's events 4 years ago and throughout his presidency? Or don't hose count because they were for "your guy"?

Trump is for cutting taxes on EVERYONE because he understands finance 101. Stop wasting federal money and it is possible. Universal healthcare is a disaster. Ask any US healthcare worker who worked in it pre and post Obama's destruction of it. Ask any Canadian on the US border who is lucky enough to afford the trip to the US to get the care they need, when they need it. Or anyone else around the world who is able to come here and escape their government run system. Progressive taxes kill innovation and manufacturing. I give you the EU as an example. You couldn't be more wrong on almost every thing you mentioned.

Finally, for Christ's sake stop with nazi salute lie.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1881525896160625031

Oh, I see... you just don't understand what oligarchy is. Got it. Trump is an oligarch. He wants all the power to the rich and none to the working class. He will tell you he will cut your taxes, but not in any significant way. Really he wants his and his oligarch friends to get most of it and thats why he wants to deregulate. So His rich friends hav no resistance from government agencies. You see, Biden isn't an oligarch because he was the most pro union president we've had in decades. Trump would make unions illegal if he had the chance. Biden supported the rule of law. He supported an independent justice department. He fought for and got lower prescription drug prices for all Americans. Trump just signed an executive order ending that btw. Trump would make unions illegal if he had the chance. And just stop minimizing the fascism of the GOP. I don't call them fascist to be hyperbolic, I just use the correct term for what they are. If you want to stay blind to the truth because it might make you realize you've been fooled, or just because it's "your side" on top, well that is your right, but as an American I see the American people as "my side" and they just lost big time to fascism and oligarchy. Please wake up and realize where you are and what is going on.

 

[Treq]

Sure I'll do it at my next meeting, and keep you in mind while I'm doing it. Why? Because after I said, "Thank you all for your hard work and supporting our team!" no one in that room would possibly misconstrue it as one of the most evil gestures in the history of mankind.

I work with a group of people that think objectively, and don't have the need for the likes of Rachel Maddow tell them what they saw, or how to think.

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I bet after seeing this you'll never see The Village People in the same light. They are super nazis. 🤣

You let them tell you how to think, and have been doing it for years. Anyone can look a musk's nazi salute and see it for what it is. You let them tell you it is innocuous, but in context any free thinking person would come to the same conclusion. Wake up man.

 

[Madhatter32]

You let them tell you how to think, and have been doing it for years. Anyone can look a musk's nazi salute and see it for what it is. You let them tell you it is innocuous, but in context any free thinking person would come to the same conclusion. Wake up man.

You know, when I said we could do this all day, I was only kidding. But for posterity, and in response to the continued absurdity, here are some more so-called Nazis:

 

[surferfb]

You know, when I said we could do this all day, I was only kidding. But for posterity, and in response to the continued absurdity, here are some more so-called Nazis:
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Again, there is a difference between a still image and video. If you watch the videos of those four clips, you'll see they were not giving a salute, but were waving, or otherwise gesturing, not saluting. Musk gave a full on Sieg Heil salute twice!

But again, don't take my word for it. Even the fascists thought it was a fascist salute.

 

[vantelimus]

You know, when I said we could do this all day, I was only kidding. But for posterity, and in response to the continued absurdity, here are some more so-called Nazis:
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Get the video and compare. Until then, you are wrong, all day long.