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It is more than just a blue bubble. Have you tried sending an iPhone photo or video to an Android user lately? If you can send it at all it is usually very blurry and low quality due to the size having to be shrunk to fit in the MMS size limits which RCS messaging eliminates.
yeah i have it comes out perfect because im not using the MMS system that would cost me money i use WhatsApp or Telegram because we are not stuck behind the times
 
Better to use Signal or Telegram. Skip WhatsApp as it's yet another environment for Facebook to be eavesdropping...
if you dont understand E2E encryption dont pass around false information about WhatsApp they cant evesdrop they dont have the keys btw they use Signal's Encryption
 
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it is not an official standard and without carrier support it is worthless they have to call it Google RCS for a reason you know
Explain to me that RCS isn't supported by carriers? It might not be supported by all carriers... but here in the US, major carriers support it.

Problem is SMS/MMS still exist which is primarily for those who use dumb phones and as long as SMS/MMS exist Apple doesn't need to support RCS. And RCS has gotten support from Samsung (top Android vendor), carriers (TMobile, AT&T and Verizon) along with Google.
 
What is iMessage?

Everyone I know uses What's app regardless of what type of phone they have. I even have What's App on macOS

What's the problem?
Well it doesn’t work on iPads, is ugly, and it’s not nearly as nice to use as iMessage.

Facebook Messenger is vastly superior - but some people don’t like to have to have facebook accounts.
 
But on the topic of investments in regards to RCS, not sure how this correlates because where do Google go from here if they decide to give up on RCS. In most cases, if Google axes a project.. there’s another one in the shadow. Although, RCS has seen some rough patches… it has a similar iMessage experience whereas its attached to an individual number and there’s no sign up needed.
They may just cut back on their US marketing efforts against Apple which, it must be said, has the closest thing to a zero ROI as anything they’re doing. They might have to keep the service going (as they may be contractually forced to do so when they signed those agreements with the US carriers) but it would have zero chance of becoming a widely adopted cross-platform solution that they want it to be. I guess, in that way, as an Android only feature it’d even be less successful than their other efforts as those were at least platform agnostic?
 
They may just cut back on their US marketing efforts against Apple which, it must be said, has the closest thing to a zero ROI as anything they’re doing. They might have to keep the service going (as they may be contractually forced to do so when they signed those agreements with the US carriers) but it would have zero chance of becoming a widely adopted cross-platform solution that they want it to be. I guess, in that way, as an Android only feature it’d even be less successful than their other efforts as those were at least platform agnostic?
That makes sense, their marketing efforts were pointless… I honestly don’t understand why they tried to push Apple toward adopting RCS. I completely understand Google reasoning behind it, but they should have seen Apple was not going to budge from thousand miles away.

I personally believe it doesn’t have to be cross-platform… keep it the way it is. As long as Android users in the US have something better than SMS/MMS… I’m completely okay with it. Instead of Google building up an entirely new cross-platform where adoption will be a minimal since users have to sign up… RCS might not see a huge marketshare compared to competitors, but at least there’s support (Samsung and major carriers) behind it.

Google should exert more effort into making RCS feature rich… push more consumers to be aware of it instead of attacking Apple on adopting it.
 
I really don’t get why so many people here think third-party chat tools are the solution. Not only are the companies involved usually awful, the “free” ones have a business model of data-mining and advertising. Why would I ever want to drag others into getting yet another account with such companies? Even if they weren’t laissez-faire capitalism monsters, it’s still another proprietary system dependent on acquiring an app and making an account.

SMS/MMS needs to be replaced industry-wide, but the mobile monopolies (three monstrous companies isn’t competition) think they’re in the business of selling contracts, rather than providing services, and so they won’t lift a finger to improve services universally. If it costs them any investment, they’ll refuse to do it.
Check out Signal.
 
Check out Signal.
Barely even heard of it. If it’s not yet another corporate entity, fine, but it’s still extra software to acquire and an extra service to start, unlike SMS, which is part of having a cellular account (or iMessage, which is part of having an Apple device w/an Apple ID).

Again: why do people think third-party products are a sensible replacement for the thing that’s right there with cellular service?? Update the obsolete standard that’s already present on every phone!!
 
We all know that Apple acts in their own interests rather than the consumer to keep us locked in. They'll be aware of the whole blue bubble/green bubble thing (which seems to just be a thing amongst US kids). And they're unlikely to implement RCS until the EU forces them to with the Digital Markets Act. We know what they're like.
 
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Well it doesn’t work on iPads, is ugly, and it’s not nearly as nice to use as iMessage.

Facebook Messenger is vastly superior - but some people don’t like to have to have facebook accounts.
technically you can use WhatsApp via a web browser so it can be used on iPads
 
Barely even heard of it. If it’s not yet another corporate entity, fine, but it’s still extra software to acquire and an extra service to start, unlike SMS, which is part of having a cellular account (or iMessage, which is part of having an Apple device w/an Apple ID).

Again: why do people think third-party products are a sensible replacement for the thing that’s right there with cellular service?? Update the obsolete standard that’s already present on every phone!!
Yes, it is indeed one more account to make and maintain etc etc. That is just part of existing in a connected digital world.
Unlike SMS it is secure. Unlike iMessage it is open source. Unlike almost any other digital platform/service, it is not for profit and has no interest in having, collecting, storing or selling your data. It is very transparent.

Is it burdensome to keep up with all the platforms yes, but Signal offers something unique and I believe that it will hold up over time to continue to provide a valuable service de-coupled from making money.
 
This is incredibly frustrating. If Apple believes that security and privacy is a 'fundamental human right', whether or not the feature is highly requested, shouldn't Apple implement it?
 
This is incredibly frustrating. If Apple believes that security and privacy is a 'fundamental human right', whether or not the feature is highly requested, shouldn't Apple implement it?
you are missing the part where this 'feature' will not work without carrier support and it has basically zero carrier support, it has zero encryption by default so i don't know why you mention security and privacy
 
We all know that Apple acts in their own interests rather than the consumer to keep us locked in. They'll be aware of the whole blue bubble/green bubble thing (which seems to just be a thing amongst US kids). And they're unlikely to implement RCS until the EU forces them to with the Digital Markets Act. We know what they're like.
Seems like you care more about it than anyone in the US outside of Google.
 


Apple CEO Tim Cook has shot down the idea of iOS adopting RCS messaging, a format that would make it significantly easier for iPhone and Android users to send high-quality messages, videos, and photos to each other within the Messages app on iOS.

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During a panel at Kara Swisher's final Code Conference yesterday, Cook was asked why iOS has not yet adopted support for the RCS standard and how Steve Jobs would feel about it (via The Verge), despite repeated calls from the industry for the company to do so. "I don't hear our users asking that we put a lot of energy in on that at this point," Cook said in response to the question.

The lack of RCS support on iOS makes it more difficult for iOS and Android users to communicate, forcing them to in some cases use third-party messaging platforms such as WhatsApp or Telegram. The reporter who asked the question pushed Cook on his response, saying he and his mother find it difficult to send photos and videos to each other because she uses an Android device while they use an iPhone. "Buy your mom an iPhone," Cook told the reporter who posed the situation.

Android has supported and led the industry in adopting RCS, while Apple has kept only iMessage and the SMS standard available on the iPhone. Google recently started a public campaign in an attempt to convince Apple to adopt RCS, but Cook's recent comments show Apple is not likely to budge anytime soon.

As noted by The Verge, emails from the Epic Games vs. Apple trial revealed that Apple's senior vice president of software engineering Craig Federighi said that bringing iMessage to Android and making it easier for the two platforms to communicate would "simply serve to remove [an] obstacle to iPhone families giving their kids Android phones."

Article Link: Tim Cook Shoots Down Idea of iOS Adopting RCS Messages: 'Buy Your Mom an iPhone'
 
I would LOVE for them to adopt this. I hate not being able to edit on threads with Android users. Having photos and videos come through/go through so compressed. Not being able to reply to a specific text in a thread. I despise the green bubbles. And if they're not going to switch to iPhones, adopt this technology. PLEASE.
 
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