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CharlesShaw

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I'm at the point of spoiled where it feels like a hassle to rotate the iPhone or iPad to an appropriate orientation for the content, so if I had a foldable device, I'd be passing it over for the one on the table that didn't have to be fussed with.
 
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eyoungren

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How pretentious. I find people buying the latest biggest, most expensive version when it’s more than they need to be more likely to do it as a status symbol. One buys the cheapest iPhone because it fills their needs and the software is the same anyway.
Call it what you want, but I'm not one of those persons who will be bound and governed only by what they 'need'. I upgrade every 3.5 to 5.5 years, so I want what I want because I live with what I buy for that long. Even then I buy two models back. I got what I wanted in 2021 by buying the 11 Pro Max and not the 13 Pro Max.

I'm not rich, I don't have the income to just go and by what I want whenever I want. But I AM patient. I get what I want even if it takes decades to get it and it's been used by people who are long done with it.

But if I lived my life buying only what I needed, I would never own anything that I wanted. And for me that's a sorry life to live.
 
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eyoungren

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I have a different view to this. I hope this doesn't become just a fad and stays as an option. The extra screen real estate of foldables can open to a bunch of neat things you can't do on a regular phone. Two or three app multitasking, and being able to properly write and doodle are what comes to my mind.

Think of it as turning into an iPad mini when it opens up, and then it goes back to a regular iPhone when folded. If the iPad mini can exist, then so can a foldable iPhone.
I think this just comes down to if a person is a jack of all trades type (or needs that flexibility) or not. I don't need a foldable, I can afford to have multiple devices with each one doing a specific thing.

And I get your reference, but I just don't have a lifestyle where I need a phone to unfold into a tablet. Ordinarily, I'd just shrug this off and say that if Apple wanted to make a foldable for those who want one then options are good. I just won't buy one myself. However, I just don't see this as anything more than a trend.

It also goes against Apple's strategy of selling you multiple devices. If Apple sells a foldable then iPad AND iPhone sales drop. Apple is just like any other business and puts their profits above what the customer wants.
 
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eyoungren

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Seeing a lot of people being negative about crease and reliability. Sure, valid - but the point of foldable is funcitonality, how would you use it? How would it make your life better or easier? What can they do better than your current tech?

Focus on that, the technology will catch up and almost has already on some versions of foldables.
Does that sound at all like how Apple operates to you?

Make something junky and then improve it over time as technology gets better? In the meantime, tell everyone that it's functionality that is important?

It really doesn't sound like Apple at all to me. But that's just my opinion.
 

Boy261

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I’ve been waiting years for Apple to introduce an unfoldable iPhone.

You can just get any 15 lineup right now, none of them can fold, sames as all previous ones😂😂.

Jokes away. The concept of foldables is nice and im realy into the clamshell phone but trust me folding phones are years away of being perfect. We are just barely getting phones that have very resistant screens. Folding screens are a joke in resistance, the materials are not yet there.

Honor v2 is impresively thin but still does not properly function as it should. All brands break very easily if you are not carefull enough and sometimes even if you are.

Sure there might be people who have one a lot of time and is pristine but not the majority. The rate in which these screens fail are incredibly high.

Apple is mighty slow to adopt things ( but sometimes innovates ahehad of its time too) if they dont have this product yet it really is because there is no product consistency yet. Apple as a company cares a lot about its reputation and they perfectly know when something is not good enough yet. (Side note: apple will also take time to “innovate” on how the folding screen is used and the os design, so that will add time to the launch of a foldable.

If they would launch something today there will definitelly be a lot of issues as other brands are having. 2026 or even 2027 seems a good date for me for launch. And even then i think 1st gent foldable from apple wont be the one to get, it probably will be better than the competition but a 2nd gen can polish some things.

That said. I think batteries are almost there in having the density enough to have a decent battery life. The outer screen is pretty much perfect ( on clamshell models), durable, has “practicaly no bezels” and some companies make it so you can do the same as the inside one, think it was motorola.

So yeah give it a time and i will definitely come its time. Meanwhile, unfoldable phones are getting quite good, just went from an xs max to a 15 pro max. Its good but not hyper impresive update as in the past used to be but man the battery life is absolutely amazing, great bezel reductions good speakers 120hz screens are life changing, and many more things.
 
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CrysisDeu

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I hadn't heard of the Magic V2, but I have to assume there were compromises made somewhere for it to be that thin (even accounting for new battery tech).
Why not actually look it up before making assumptions, it’s already on the market with reviews
 

CrysisDeu

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Does that sound at all like how Apple operates to you?

Make something junky and then improve it over time as technology gets better? In the meantime, tell everyone that it's functionality that is important?

It really doesn't sound like Apple at all to me. But that's just my opinion.
This is very Apple to me. In a clip when someone blasts Jobs on Mac’s iWork suite (and many others), Steve Jobs did mention, he starts with how the product should be, and then ask engineers to solve the technical problems. If you always start from engineering, you might never reach what you actually want.

After all, iPhone, iPad, Macbook Air, etc. all released with some compromise due to technological advancements. After people actually buys it and acknowledge the value in it, they iterate and made better products
 
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eyoungren

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This is very Apple to me. In a clip when someone blasts Jobs on Mac’s iWork suite (and many others), Steve Jobs did mention, he starts with how the product should be, and then ask engineers to solve the technical problems. If you always start from engineering, you might never reach what you actually want.

After all, iPhone, iPad, Macbook Air, etc. all released with some compromise due to technological advancements. After people actually buys it and acknowledge the value in it, they iterate and made better products
While Apple does have some compromise in the products it releases, it's not total. If they do release a foldable, it will have the other manufacturers kicking themselves for not figuring out what Apple figured out.

I don't believe Apple will release a foldable, but if they do intend to, then figuring it out and releasing it when it's ready is what's happening. Not launching a fully compromised device and then improving it via iteration.
 

CrysisDeu

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While Apple does have some compromise in the products it releases, it's not total. If they do release a foldable, it will have the other manufacturers kicking themselves for not figuring out what Apple figured out.

I don't believe Apple will release a foldable, but if they intend to, then figuring it out and releasing it when it's ready is what's happening. Not launching a fully compromised device and then improving it via iteration.
We will see in two years. It’s not like they are not releasing one.
My 5 cents: there will still be a crease. And it’s probably not gonna be as good as Huawei mate X5. There will be one or two staring features which people absolutely crave for (even if they are kind of useless). Then there will be a bunch of people hating the crease and say foldable is so bad.. although the crease is better on some other foldables.
 
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Reverend Benny

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Sorry. This is what I intended to say...
Yea, I think everyone got that it was a typo.
Will be interesting to see what happens in the future, I'm sure that there will be some sort of a foldable device, just hoping it will be one that contains a long lasting Apple design and that comes with a decent software that makes use of the foldable features.

Maybe new screentech (guessing now) such as Microled or Nanoled will allow for different designs?
 
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MrENGLISH

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Maybe new screentech (guessing now) such as Microled or Nanoled will allow for different designs?
Something that doesn’t seem to be talked about much is that extended rolling screen tech. But honestly I think I’d rather have a folding iPhone than an extended rolling screen iPhone. Just seems like that would introduce more points of failure.

It would be interesting to see them do something different. Something we’ve never seen or thought of before.
 
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However, I just don't see this as anything more than a trend.

It also goes against Apple's strategy of selling you multiple devices. If Apple sells a foldable then iPad AND iPhone sales drop. Apple is just like any other business and puts their profits above what the customer wants.
Foldable phones have been around for more than half decade already. I don't know how long the tech has to stay for it to not be a fad, but I see it as more of a niche product that will stay.

It stinks that Apple may not pursue the foldable if it means eating up their standalone iPhone and iPad sales. It reminds me of the reason why they refuse to put macOS on an iPad. Yes they can do it, but they want more money, so they won't. ☹️
 
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My ideal wish of a foldable, would be a phone that has a small screen to use for basic functions, but when needed, could unfold into a larger screen for extended periods of viewing.
I guess the chance of that happening is slim and none.
 

MrENGLISH

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My ideal wish of a foldable, would be a phone that has a small screen to use for basic functions, but when needed, could unfold into a larger screen for extended periods of viewing.
I guess the chance of that happening is slim and none.
That sounds similar to what the RAZR and Z Flip are. I'd like to see Apple make both a Flip and a Fold version of the iPhone.
 

Bungaree.Chubbins

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Seeing a lot of people being negative about crease and reliability. Sure, valid - but the point of foldable is funcitonality, how would you use it? How would it make your life better or easier? What can they do better than your current tech?

Focus on that, the technology will catch up and almost has already on some versions of foldables.
I can't see any possible benefit to me for a folding iPhone. What would it do better than my regular iPhone? If it's a clamshell fold, it's not going to sit better in my pocket, it's just going to be fatter and more fragile, and I'll need to unfold it to use it, and I was one of the people who hated flip phones back in the day. I couldn't wait to get rid of my Motorola!

If it's a book fold, that just gives me a regular iPhone that unfolds into the most awkward screen ratio, that doesn't help me with anything I do on the go. It's just an iPhone that transforms into a really awkward shaped iPad mini. I replaced my iPad mini (1st gen) with my iPad Air 2, because it was too small to be useful.

I'm not knocking folding phones for other people, a few have presented use cases in which it is valuable to them. More power to them! Same for if you just want a folding phone for the shiny newness and difference! You're allowed to like that, I don't care. But the awful crease in the middle, the fragility, they matter to me. I keep my devices a long time, because they're so expensive, and these folding phones don't add anything useful to me that I can see, only detract.

Also, I remember reading years ago that Apple was working on folding screens in R&D. Evidently they've never been satisfied that they're good enough to actually launch a product.
 

Jackbequickly

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I would never leave Apple and move to Android just because I wanted a folding phone. Everyone has their own priorities!

I have friends with folding phones and i do not think Apple users would put up with that crease in the screen and Apple knows it!
 

boss.king

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Cared enough to spread assumptions lol
Yes, I saw a reply to one of my posts and responded with my thoughts, but didn't want to spend the time to research a phone I'm not all that interested in. What's the part you're struggling with?
 

Unami

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I’ve been waiting years for Apple to introduce an unfoldable iPhone that unfolds into an iPad mini.
If you've been watching the rumors you'd know that this has always been very, very unrealistic before 2026 - and even then that would be early for Apple. And even then, it's rumored that Apple is experimenting with a foldable iPad/macbook first, so no phone functionality. If you want foldable now, buy an android. It's almost guaranteed to die even before Apple's first foldable comes out - so you could go back to apple then.
 
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