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Jamacfer

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I agree and I would like it too but since I only need 256 GB I can't buy the 1 TB model just to have the option of buying (with additional surcharge) the nano...so, quality aside, the truth is that it costs much more than the glossy one because I think most users don't buy the larger size models.
 

GDF

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Absolutely. I’m in the same boat. 256Gb would be enough, less RAM and CPU cores wouldn’t bother me either. It kinda feels like I paid almost double just for nano. Annoying.
Same boat with me, but will pay for the 1tb cell version when it becomes available to test along side my glossy oled 13 Pro. Hope the nano screen trickles to iPhones some day too.
 

VisceralRealist

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I finally received my nano textured 13” pro yesterday. I really wanted to love it. And while it has qualities that I do truly appreciate - softer touch, more tactile pencil experience, lack of reflections, obviously - there is one unexpected compromise that led me to sadly exchange it for a standard screen today: Against white or very light colors, a static, grainy texture is always visible. After all the talk about desaturated colors and washed out blacks, I found those traits to be completely negligible. I actually thought color and contrast were excellent. But the ever-present grain over light areas is a gamebreaker I couldn’t get past. The Apple employees I spoke to saw it too, describing it as “gritty.”

To be clear, this is a nano-specific issue separate from the “grainy” screen complaints about the new oleds. That supposed effect seems to be most visible on gray/darker tones. I have not personally noted this problem on either my nano or standard units.

I hope everyone can try both and get the one that makes the most sense for them. I’m definitely looking forward to improved, future iterations of this tech.

Yes, that is the main reason why I probably will not get the Nano. It is visible on the Studio Display as well. There are obviously matte finishes out there that aren't grainy; my 4K Dell monitor is matte and there is no graininess, but Apple's "Nano" texture is made in such a way that it results in a visible graininess, especially when looking at text on a white background. After viewing it in the Apple Store the other day, I noticed that the graininess was not as pronounced as that of the Studio Display, but it was still there, and most noticeable when lighter colors were on the disaply. I hope this technology can improve to where it does not need to be grainy to be matte. (And I'm wondering if, now that there is a matte option for the iPad, that this will be brought to the MacBook? Or should I say "brought back" since many years ago, there were matte MacBooks...)
 
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nikster0029

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Yes, that is the main reason why I probably will not get the Nano. It is visible on the Studio Display as well. There are obviously matte finishes out there that aren't grainy; my 4K Dell monitor is matte and there is no graininess, but Apple's "Nano" texture is made in such a way that it results in a visible graininess, especially when looking at text on a white background. After viewing it in the Apple Store the other day, I noticed that the graininess was not as pronounced as that of the Studio Display, but it was still there, and most noticeable when lighter colors were on the disaply. I hope this technology can improve to where it does not need to be grainy to be matte. (And I'm wondering if, now that there is a matte option for the iPad, that this will be brought to the MacBook? Or should I say "brought back" since many years ago, there were matte MacBooks...)
I wonder why they prefer this version over the other matte coatings
 

NikkiAngel

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I got the nano just now and I absolutely love it. I can actually use my iPad in the sun! Now I need to know if should go for the 13 vs the 11. *sigh*

I’m thinking of using the 13 for a laptop replacement and for my guitar tabs. But do I neeeeeed it?
 

codeunrwolfpack

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The biggest problem of the nano in this forum is, that people are judging the nano without ever tested one in real life scenarios and not just in the Apple Store or after watching some YouTube videos about the nano.

I wasn’t team nano at all and got the glossy one on release day, but then became curious and ordered the nano. Such a positive surprise in many aspects.
100% agree! Those that say it looks just like a matte screen protector need to go to the Apple Store and actually take a look at one.
 

codeunrwolfpack

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I got the nano just now and I absolutely love it. I can actually use my iPad in the sun! Now I need to know if should go for the 13 vs the 11. *sigh*

I’m thinking of using the 13 for a laptop replacement and for my guitar tabs. But do I neeeeeed it?
I have the same exact dilemma. I can't find any 13 inch nanos anywhere. :(
 

Myrr

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After sampling a Nano 11" in the store the other day, I swapped my non-Nano for what appeared to me as a major upgrade in screen quality. Looks so much nicer to my eyes, and the tradeoffs seem pretty minimal. Expensive yes, but I also doubled my storage and I suppose the extra ram doesn't hurt. My one and only concern would be longevity of the screen treatment/resistance to scratches. I take care of my devices so I'm not that worried.

I read all the pros and cons here, but there was no substitute to going to the Apple store and trying it out.
 

jmgregory1

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Just got my 13” nano screen iPP and love the texture and screen. I may be an outlier here as I’ve used matte screen protectors on my last two iPad Pro’s and couldn’t imagine using the gloss screen. I actually now prefer the softer and less textured surface, as it has less drag Than the matte film does, but still feels more natural than a gloss screen.
 

NikkiAngel

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Apr 18, 2015
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Just got my 13” nano screen iPP and love the texture and screen. I may be an outlier here as I’ve used matte screen protectors on my last two iPad Pro’s and couldn’t imagine using the gloss screen. I actually now prefer the softer and less textured surface, as it has less drag Than the matte film does, but still feels more natural than a gloss screen.

The screen almost looks like a printed page. It’s so amazing
 

er2429

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I finally got my hands on a 1TB nano texture after trekking out to Corte Madera two days ago, and after 48 hours with it I can unequivocally voice my opinion.

I feel like there is a lot of discussion in the media that tries to both sides the the question of "To nano or not to nano?" and my feeling is more decisive the answer is simply if you can afford it, you should definitely nano. Nano the absolute **** out of your purchase and never look back. The display is life changing as someone who works from coffee shops, bright offices, and travels up to 20 weeks per year.

I was using Slack this morning over morning coffee and remarking on how it almost looks like someone painted Slack on to my iPad. There is a slight bit of blurriness and a tinge of grain on white surfaces, but weirdly it almost adds to the character of the display for me.

The blacks while watching movies or TV are slightly washed in light spaces, but it's infinitely better than distracting reflections. In addition, the blacks and clarity for movies appear almost indistinguishable from the glossy at night when it's not diffusing any light source and I truly don’t notice any difference in sharpness.

Finger prints to me are significantly less noticeable than the glossy and the different texture feels more natural for a touch display. It's softer, has less friction, and makes the device feel more light or effortless.

It’s also easier to clean than a Nano Texture Studio Display or Pro Display XDR. I accidentally splashed a little water on it and got a dot of soup on it last night while making dinner and it wiped right off. Contrast that with the Studio Display where I sneezed on it and it took me like 30 minutes of careful cleaning to get it back to normal. I suspect this new process is more resilient and they know it, but are being predictably cautious.

I'm glad Apple found a process that works on a touch screen device. I suspect given how limited they are the decision to only make them for the high end is an issue of supply. I hope they remedy this and bring nano to storage models as well.

Now I am looking forward to the 32" OLED nano texture display as well as a MacBook Pro OLED Nano.
 

Snoggin

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I finally got my hands on a 1TB nano texture after trekking out to Corte Madera two days ago, and after 48 hours with it I can unequivocally voice my opinion.

I feel like there is a lot of discussion in the media that tries to both sides the the question of "To nano or not to nano?" and my feeling is more decisive the answer is simply if you can afford it, you should definitely nano. Nano the absolute **** out of your purchase and never look back. The display is life changing as someone who works from coffee shops, bright offices, and travels up to 20 weeks per year.

I was using Slack this morning over morning coffee and remarking on how it almost looks like someone painted Slack on to my iPad. There is a slight bit of blurriness and a tinge of grain on white surfaces, but weirdly it almost adds to the character of the display for me.

The blacks while watching movies or TV are slightly washed in light spaces, but it's infinitely better than distracting reflections. In addition, the blacks and clarity for movies appear almost indistinguishable from the glossy at night when it's not diffusing any light source and I truly don’t notice any difference in sharpness.

Finger prints to me are significantly less noticeable than the glossy and the different texture feels more natural for a touch display. It's softer, has less friction, and makes the device feel more light or effortless.

It’s also easier to clean than a Nano Texture Studio Display or Pro Display XDR. I accidentally splashed a little water on it and got a dot of soup on it last night while making dinner and it wiped right off. Contrast that with the Studio Display where I sneezed on it and it took me like 30 minutes of careful cleaning to get it back to normal. I suspect this new process is more resilient and they know it, but are being predictably cautious.

I'm glad Apple found a process that works on a touch screen device. I suspect given how limited they are the decision to only make them for the high end is an issue of supply. I hope they remedy this and bring nano to storage models as well.

Now I am looking forward to the 32" OLED nano texture display as well as a MacBook Pro OLED Nano.
Im with you I’ve had both for the last week and I find the Nano much superior for me myself and I
 

rukind2

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I appreciate those who commented on the nano effect on contrast. With aging eyes I increasingly rely on contrast which makes the nano option less appealing.
 

Jamacfer

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I appreciate those who commented on the nano effect on contrast. With aging eyes I increasingly rely on contrast which makes the nano option less appealing.
I, on the other hand, find the nano better for the eyes (less bright glare and contrast and more restful). Of course, these are all personal needs that are different from each other.
 

the future

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I picked up my non-nano 11“ today as well and took a good long look at the (sole) nano 13“ that was in the showroom. The biggest negative is the black levels which are (expectedly) elevated. The resulting lower contrast makes pictures/videos look a little „flatter“, i.e. with less 3D depth. Which is a look that one might actually prefer as the content looks a little more natural and not as artificially „flashy“. But if you want the full-on OLED pop, you need to stick with the non-nano. Text (which is my main use case) is very, very slightly less sharp, but only if you look extremely closely; not a deal breaker at all. The nano feels a lot nicer to touch, though; the surfacer is actually smoother than the non-nano which has that well known „glass grip“. The light diffusion itself is spectacularly effective and neutralized the glaring ceiling lights in the Apple store with ease.

If these were closer in price, I would probably still be in the Apple store hemming and hawing. As I have no use for 1 TB of storage and/or 16 GB of RAM and/or the extra performance core, reason prevailed and I stuck with the non-nano. But I will sure think back longingly to the nano if and when I‘ll use my iPad outside of the house.

Well, I caved. After watching more video reviews and playing around with it in the Apple Store again (and again), I returned the non-nano and got a nano 11. And it is just incredible. Everything looks sharp and smooth at the same time, like a printed (or painted) page, like there is no glass barrier at all between the content and your own eyes. This effect is even more pronounced in regular lighting conditions (i.e. not an Apple Store). And in low(er) light, the blacks are absolutely OLED-inky. This is quite simply the best screen I have ever seen, on any device. I just hope this nano wizardry comes to the iPhone (and Apple Watch) next.
 

Jamacfer

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Well, I caved. After watching more video reviews and playing around with it in the Apple Store again (and again), I returned the non-nano and got a nano 11. And it is just incredible. Everything looks sharp and smooth at the same time, like a printed (or painted) page, like there is no glass barrier at all between the content and your own eyes. This effect is even more pronounced in regular lighting conditions (i.e. not an Apple Store). And in low(er) light, the blacks are absolutely OLED-inky. This is quite simply the best screen I have ever seen, on any device. I just hope this nano wizardry comes to the iPhone (and Apple Watch) next.
I do agree, in fact I too returned the 11” glossy model and ordered the nano one (I admit, despite not needing 1TB..). But the Oled+Nano screen makes all the difference! PS Real life is not glossy so, in my opinion, the nano has, in a way, a more natural effect.
 
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the future

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I do agree, in fact I too returned the 11” glossy model and ordered the nano one (I admit, despite not needing 1TB..). But the Oled+Nano screen makes all the difference!

I needed 512 so the step up to 1 TB wasn‘t quite as steep as for the 256 folks, but boy was it worth it. Now I‘m looking for ways to fill the SSD 😂
 
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okkibs

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The biggest problem of the nano in this forum is, that people are judging the nano without ever tested one in real life scenarios and not just in the Apple Store or after watching some YouTube videos about the nano.
Who drops $2k just for "testing one in real life scenarios"? It's not like the Apple Store is gonna rent one out to me for a day. I don't buy something I am not convinced I want to keep. I use Apple products since the PowerBook and have yet to return a single Apple device. I won't start buying devices for "testing".
 

macphoto861

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Who drops $2k just for "testing one in real life scenarios"? It's not like the Apple Store is gonna rent one out to me for a day. I don't buy something I am not convinced I want to keep.
I agree with this to at least some extent. It's not a good thing when Youtubers go out and buy an assortment of devices to make a demo video of (with the intention of returning most or all of them), or when a consumer buys several variations to try them out before deciding which one to keep... the cost of processing the returned devices gets (to some degree) incorporated into the price everyone pays.

That being said, I'm never absolutely convinced that I'll be keeping an iPad until I'm able to test it in my own environment and with my own work (photo editing). I'll take preliminary steps to help reduce the chance of having to return it, with the first being scrutinizing reviews and user posts, and the second being to bring my current iPad to the store to compare how color is rendered (which is the most important issue for me), and if that gives me a pretty strong indication that it will be suitable for me, only then do I buy it.

But I still need to work with it in my own controlled lighting conditions to know for sure.
 
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xsmett

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Its not as scratch resistant as the standard (not a big surprise). But it shouldn’t matter what kind of polishing cloth we use to clean the nano.
 
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