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September 22nd is the first day of autumn. To a manufacturing/software team struggling to push out a product (and hopefully get some testing on it), September 21st could be considered 'late summer' (been there done that). Summer travel season is about over. 26 days until the school district calendar starts where I live.

If the handtech.co.uk site is any reference (not familiar with them), their price is probably already 'street priced', which means the retail is above that number by a good margin.
 
I need TomTom so badly! I'm going on vacation tomorrow and now I'm stuck with google earth. :(

Why are you stuck! get Navigon and your set plus why are you using google earth ? i dont set any map use there
 
I went on vacation right after the 4th and signed up for AT&T Navigator for a month. It did well in my home city but had more problems on the road. It's a solid service as long as you have a good signal (streaming voice to BT car stereo also helps). But I canceled it.

I'd like to see TomTom, pricing and features but am really leaning toward going with Navigon now instead of waiting 2 more weeks (I'd get Navigon on the 14th or 15th for sure if no TT).
 
I went on vacation right after the 4th and signed up for AT&T Navigator for a month. It did well in my home city but had more problems on the road. It's a solid service as long as you have a good signal (streaming voice to BT car stereo also helps). But I canceled it.

Yes, the signal is the apps only fault. I tried this app just hours after it was released and cancelled it as soon as I got back in from testing it. I live near a three block area where there is no 3G service and in that area, AT&T Navigator quit working and that's all I needed to see to cancel.
 
I'd like to see a cheap Tom Tom app (20$?) with no maps included then you could buy each country separately through the App store directly from the TomTom app.. that'd be sweet.

I need the maps for Spain and Israel !!

This could be, if someone in the market takes it on, a great way to gain quick inexpensive market share. $20-$30 for a decent TBT navigation app including one country/state map, then an in app purchase (that Apple is saying will be possible) of each additional map needed (something like $10 each country/state).

Some start up is going to try it.....

I really see, as the mobile phone market matures with reliable TBT navigation (others already have it), that all the standalone TBT unit sales dwindle to nothing in the next 3-5 years, as well as a dwindling market for it to be 'in car'.

Just ask the wrist watch manufacturers. How many teenagers/20/30 somethings out there do you still see wearing a wrist watch (not to go off topic, just something parallel to think about)?
 
This could be, if someone in the market takes it on, a great way to gain quick inexpensive market share. $20-$30 for a decent TBT navigation app including one country/state map, then an in app purchase (that Apple is saying will be possible) of each additional map needed (something like $10 each country/state).

Some start up is going to try it.....

I really see, as the mobile phone market matures with reliable TBT navigation (others already have it), that all the standalone TBT unit sales dwindle to nothing in the next 3-5 years, as well as a dwindling market for it to be 'in car'.

Just ask the wrist watch manufacturers. How many teenagers/20/30 somethings out there do you still see wearing a wrist watch (not to go off topic, just something parallel to think about)?

I think the standalone market will dwindle in a few years, but I think there will be a market for it in-car and included in other devices. The watch thing is (IMHO) because most kids now have a cell phone and that does a good enough job as a watch that they don't need a wristwatch. I basically only wear mine out of habit (I'm a relative youngster myself).
 
I think TomTom is setting themselves up for a big letdown. There's by all accounts a decent TBT nav app out there in Navigon right now, and TomTom's leaving users waiting ... and waiting... and waiting, with no specifics at all. When their app and hardware finally hit the streets, it's likely going to be at a premium (at least >$150 US total for app+dock). That's a pretty significant difference between their next-closest competitor at $70. There are a lot of people who are building this up into something it's probably not.
 
All I can say is that I was sooooo excited for TomTom....but one thing I know for sure is, if it's not out by the 14th, I'll definitely be going with Navigon.

The one thing that really caught my attention from TT was the fact it upgraded the gps signal strength.

One question for anyone who might be in the know......How much better could the signal strength be with the mount? I've heard the iphone's antenna is good enough. I live around Toronto and just don't want to find out I could have had MUCH better gps signal with TT and the mount.

Any comments to make me feel better about that? haaha
 
all the GPS signals go one way, and that is up. only problem you might have is indoors. i've used GPS devices in the army back in the 1990's which were made on even older tech and never had any problems.
 
The biggest con about the TomTom mount isn't even the cost for me. It is that the design seems not to allow for cases. I have an Incase Slider Case on my phone that I have never taken off. I don't want to have to be taking it off every time I get into the car if I can just use a software only solution and a Kensington mount...
 
Posting from iPhone here, just found this: http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/2126/tomtom-for-iphone-inc-mount

could be fake but I would be pretty crapper off if this was real. Doesn't app have to be sold through app store though? Maybe promo code in the pack?

Post #145 in this same thread

Get your pre-orders in now: http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/2126/tomtom-for-iphone-inc-mount

£114 including the mount.

I also said previously in this thread (I think it was within a few posts of that one) that I assume they'll bundle the mount and a card with a promotional code. :)
 
Guys... i just purchased Navigon. I had no choice... I'm going on vacation... i needed a GPS so badly. I've heard bad things about TomTom that their user interface is very complicate.

I needed something easy...
 
Navigon is as good as TomTom will ever be....**** em, they've been boasting about having it working on an iPhone for "years", they even pay / get invited by Apple to showcase at WWDC and they cant be bothered releasing it in a reasonable time...its the ultimate in FAIL!!

Support Navigon and shun these idiots....they need to learn :p
 
Navigon is as good as TomTom will ever be....**** em, they've been boasting about having it working on an iPhone for "years", they even pay / get invited by Apple to showcase at WWDC and they cant be bothered releasing it in a reasonable time...its the ultimate in FAIL!!

Support Navigon and shun these idiots....they need to learn :p

I fully agree. I bought Navigon a few weeks ago. Prior to that I was using a Garmin Nuvi, which I'm now giving to my daughter. I'm happy with Navigon so far. I've taken several trips and it works well. There is a little room for improvement, but they've already stated an update is coming soon. I'm sure TT will be much more expensive, especially when you factor in the cost of the doc. I'm glad I didn't wait, $70- is a good price!
 
Heard today from someone in the know.....
Tomtom might be forced to release the package despite their top guys reservations about the system been ready.They hope to make sales and then "patch up" later. This is yet again another kick in the the teeth from Tomtom.
 
Heard today from someone in the know.....
Tomtom might be forced to release the package despite their top guys reservations about the system been ready.They hope to make sales and then "patch up" later. This is yet again another kick in the the teeth from Tomtom.

wow the worst thing to do imo first put a product out that is unfinished then try to make up for it later death to Tom Tom besides my source still says it won't be released till Sept 3
 
Heard today from someone in the know.....
Tomtom might be forced to release the package despite their top guys reservations about the system been ready.They hope to make sales and then "patch up" later. This is yet again another kick in the the teeth from Tomtom.

How is it that you have a "source" now? Two weeks ago...

Tomtom really need to do some serious "customer research" I paid to call them to ask if the 2g will work using their GPS cradle and mapping. The tech guy did not know. Thats a $6 call to ask a simple tech question .If he does not know that then whats the point??
 
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