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I use rotate with four different Android devices and one WP. I use an iPad to watch Bob Ross, The Travel Channel episodes, G4 Icons, I Love Lucy, or anything random before I sleep. It is frickin' mobile OS. I don't remember in the 1990's and 2000's where we had heated discussions between mobile OSes. Now in the 2010's it is being defined between Apple v Samsung/Google, iOS v Android. Remember Sega v Nintendo or Nintendo v Sony? Microsoft v Apple? Time passed...

The only reason why I prefer Android is because I like VARIETY. One expensive flagship or one iPhone will NEVER EVER satisfy me completely. I need more. My brain capacity is far higher on how I use a phone, so I need many more. So if one ever gets stolen or dies completely from its battery, I have many more to spare. I think and act like The Woz. The co-founder of Apple is known to be a gadget geek who would carry 10 different phones in a backpack. That's my style.

I don't have the attention span to settle with one or two phones. I need to tinker with each of them to my liking. Like a Japanese RPG party. Figure out what they bring to the party. What are their talents and weaknesses? Then utilize them to my advantage. When two of my phones need to recharge, I still continue on with the other three. I might settle with 7 phones on rotation someday. Believe me, there is no perfect phone or OS out there. So you need to fill the tiny cracks with more devices.

TEAM OF PH0NES > A single great flagship

1 is such a lonely number. Multi-phones, multi-platform user for life. Good luck to those content with 1 or 2 platform and devices. I like soke phones with removable battery, sd card slot, water resist, etc. And Android devices are the only ones that tend to VARY from each manufacturer. An iPhone can't even play many different video formats and iTunes won't even read MKV or AVI. You would eventually be bored with all of them by being myopic like Apple's philosophy.

OP, forget your 10 reasons of picking iPhone over Samsung/Android. I would rather have 10 different phones. No weaknesses by that point.

*cue Final Fantasy songs*
 

Klyster

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No, I have both samsung and iphones. Samsung phones are just good for photo taking. No Samsung Pay for Tab S2 and Note 5 because they are not updated with Marshmallow. Samsung also blatantly mentions the Tab S2 is not compatible. Meanwhile, I can still using Apple Pay with my iPhone 5.
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My Note 5 has had 6.0.1 for a while.
My wireless FAST charging is pretty quick.
Apple Pay on non NFC equipped iPhone 5? Do you mean apple watch in conjunction with iPhone 5?

Sounds like you are being a little liberal with the truth maybe?
 
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waitandwait

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How do you have Apple Pay working on an iPhone 5? I thought it required an iPhone 6 or later.

http://www.apple.com/apple-pay/

You can using an Apple Watch with iPhone 5. It looks super dumb on the iPhone 5 though in store. But hey, it's compatible.
Ten reasons why the iPhone is NOT my daily driver.

1) Homescreen customization.
I only have three homescreens, but my widgets and app folders, and shortcuts are laid out perfectly for me on my Android devices. And no, I don't constantly change it. Something I can't do on iOS.

2) It's still too restrictive
From restrictive use of BT, Wifi only restrictions, restricted OTG use, no access to file system, all browsers required to base off webkit, and on and on and on.

3) Design
The iPhone is just behind when it comes to design for my taste. Android manufacturers are killing it with design. Especially Samsung.

4) Features
Nowadays, Apple is just too late to the party with most features on the software and hardware side. I'm the type that wants to at least try the latest and greatest features.

5) Lightning Connector
When Apple first introduced it, I thought it would be the end of the "Not Supported" error popups. But sadly it's still a common issue. I would say, once every 3 to 4 months, my iOS devices will just choose not to like a specific Lightning cord, and I take care of them. I use the one from Apple and the 3rd party ones they sell. Sometimes a cheap one I buy from a corner store lasts longer.

6) Casting & Mirroring
Android is so much more compatible with this. Don't need any 3rd party app or findings loopholes to cast or mirror to non Apple players/displays.

7) WPS
This is a more personal and rare reason for most users, but it's annoying when I don't have access to WPS. I travel alot to friends, family, and places of business. You'll be surprised how many people don't know the wifi password. Being able to simply press the WPS button is a god send for me. Apple doesn't include WPS in any of it's products so I can't do that with an iPhone.

8) Updates
Sure Android is fragmented like crazy, and timely OS updates feel more of a luxury. But Android is able to update many of it's core apps and add on features without an OS update. With iOS, you need an OS update for damn near any changes. My problem with that is, I can't function on the iPhone without a jailbreak, and an update almost always kills the exploit of the current jailbreak, so you're forced to pass on the update or wait x amount of time for a new jailbreak.

9) Sideloading and Other App Stores
I can sideload any app at my own discretion, and install apps from app stores like Amazon. Amazon alone has saved me a ton of money on useful free apps that the Play Store would have charged me for. I also have several apks of apps that have been discontinued. With iOS it's the App Store only or Jailbreak.

10) Default apps selection
Saved my biggest gripe for last. Hopefully Apple changes this soon. But as of right now, the lack of selecting default apps is an everyday annoyance for me when using an iPhone.

One reason (for me) NOT to use iPhone -

iTunes - The real Trojan horse on desktop computers for Apple's ecosystem. So dependent on it just to handle multimedia.

iPhones can't even play multiple video formats out of the box. I am amazed at the versatility of MX Player for playing MKV and AVI files. With iDevices going back to iPod 5th gen, always had to convert them to MP4.

- No torrent apps like Flud for HD movie downloads
- No TubeMate which destroys MXTube
- No custom launchers
- No gesture shortcuts to apps
- No drawer to hide ugly app icons except in folders
- Nova Prime destroys iOS' boring homescreen
- No select all to move or delete on the iDevice
- Third-party keyboards like SwiftKey is bad on iOS
- Can't make third party apps your default (yet)
- No one-click root (jailbreak) apps like KingRoot
- No removable battery and sd card slot
- No MoboPlayer mini-player
- No Screen Off and Lock (bye, bye physical button)
- No double tap to wake and sleep the screen
- No back button
- No AcDisplay or DynamicNotifications
- No RAM swapping app
- No Power Schedule or Tasker to have weekly reboots
- No Trimmer (fstrim) app. iPhones need to be restored to make them faster again!
- Can't check my SOT correctly since music is part of usage

Smooth and powerful but for the little options it gives you! That's my TWENTY REASONS. Your move, son.
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One thing that I really like about the iPhone and all other Apple products, is the integration iOS has with other iOS devices, and with Macs. Especially after watching a video about MacOS Sierra.

For all the Android lovers and fanboys here, I need to remind you this is MacRumors.

As I say and perhaps you fail to read the wjole thread, whatever Top 10 Android/Samsung users can point out are either subjective or will be copied by Apple eventually.

My Top 10 will always be unique to Apple and Samsung/Android have no ability to copy or they refuse to copy (sadly). And these 10 reasons are why iPhones will always stay ahead of competition and be the best choice for many people. I am repeating again:

(1) Updates. When did S5 or S6 get their Marshmallow updates? When did iPhones users get their new releases? If you pay US$600 on a premium phone and don't get the latest updates/functions, I wonder...
(2) Security. Tell me, how long did S5 or S6 or Huawei or whatever get their security patch? Just tell me. Do you mean your personal credit card or family details don't matter?
(3) GPU/Speed - Nobody here can show me a faster Android comparing flagship v iPhone flagship. iphones always come in 1st or 2nd. Do you mean you buy a US$600 premium phone and wish it takes ages to start or load games?
(4) Functions. Do you mean you buy a premium tablet NINE MONTHS AGO and it cannot use Samsung Pay?
(5) Ecosystem. I bought phones for convenience. And not to be a slave to phone. The Apps, the Cloud and the regular updates. They beautifully work together
(6) Bloatware. Do you mean you buy a US$600 64GB premium phone to find 20GB used for software you cannot delete? (not hide)
(7) Service. AppleCare. No questions asked. Just no questions asked.
(8) Stores. AppleStore. Do you mean you buy a US$600 premium phone, get bricked unfortunately and you have to send it back to China to fix it?
(9) Resale value. You don't see Rolex or Cartier dropping their prices. That's essential to call yours a premium phone. iPhone don't drop its prices by 30% 3 months after release.
(10) Product Line. Can you differentiate the 31 phones and 25 tablets Samsung release or all the product lines Huawei release last year? iPhones is just iPhone 6S (medium), 6S+ (large) and SE (small). Easy to understand.

Come on. Don't deviate from the talk. Say something substantial to shut me up and not tell me subjective Top 10s or some hardware/software you know it will be copied by OEMs one day.
 

The Game 161

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I felt the same way you did two years ago. I made the switch and it was a mistake.

I bought a Galaxy Note 3, and it was the biggest piece of crap phone I have ever used in my entire life. I purchased it because a buddy of mine had one and I was simply enamored with the huge screen (this was when iPhones still had the 4" screen), and I do like to tinker and customize.

It worked well for like, 3 months. Then after that, it gradually got slower...and slower...and slower. Then the errors started to happen. The keyboard would freeze constantly, the phone restarted on its own once or twice a day, and overall the phone went to crap. The interface simply isn't as fluid. Customization is nice on a PC, but on a phone, I just want something speedy that will work. I went back to iPhone after having the Galaxy Note 3 for maybe 6 months. I will never make that mistake again.

Yes, iOS is getting stale, but it still beats the tar out of the alternatives.
Your example is a note 3? Seriously?

Samsung have come a long damn way since that time in every single way.

The new phones for one are fantastic in pretty much every possible way
 

waitandwait

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Your example is a note 3? Seriously?

Samsung have come a long damn way since that time in every single way.

The new phones for one are fantastic in pretty much every possible way

Dude, Note 3 two years ago is a new phone.

Samsung's phones are gorgeous and i love the camera. But why can't Samsung improve their updates, return service or customer service?? They are not penniless like other Androids!!!!
 

The Game 161

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Dude, Note 3 two years ago is a new phone.

Samsung's phones are gorgeous and i love the camera. But why can't Samsung improve their updates, return service or customer service?? They are not penniless like other Androids!!!!
Actually it's 3 years ago this year and Samsung have come a long way in that time

Updates arent down to just Samsung but agreement in place with Google

Updates are great on Apple but on Android? There has never been enough improvement for my liking from year to year that makes it a sudden need to have updates badly
 

waitandwait

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Updates are great on Apple but on Android? There has never been enough improvement for my liking from year to year that makes it a sudden need to have updates badly

Some updates are really more monumental than the rest like Samsung Pay or Apple Pay. I still don't get my updates on S5.
 

samcraig

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(9) Resale value. You don't see Rolex or Cartier dropping their prices. That's essential to call yours a premium phone. iPhone don't drop its prices by 30% 3 months after release.

Come on. Don't deviate from the talk. Say something substantial to shut me up and not tell me subjective Top 10s or some hardware/software you know it will be copied by OEMs one day.

You list is subjective. And who needs to shut you up - clearly iOS is the best choice for you. Are you expecting to "shut up" others in this thread?

BTW - there are tons of incentives across the globe to buy iPhones and the same, cheaper or even "free." So I don't think you're rationale for premium stands.

You love the Apple ecosystem. I like it. I also like Android. Overall - I used the best tool for the best job FOR ME.

Challenging people in this thread just comes off as obnoxious to me - as if you either think you're better or that those that choose Android have something to prove.

As long as you use what works for you.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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For all the Android lovers and fanboys here, I need to remind you this is MacRumors.

Yea Macrumors, NOT iPhone rumors, not iOS runors, MACRUMORS!!!!!

I have a MBP, Mac Mini, two iPads, and two iPhones. I also have PC notebooks, PC desktop and Android devices. PROBLEM?????

You're the very reason I stated "Why I can't use the iPhone as my DAILY DRIVER". I thought it would deflect comments like yours, but sadly I was mistaken.
 

AppleRobert

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I do not understand why threads like these aren't moved to the iPhone forum.

If it was the other way round, 10 reason to buy an android over an iPhone posted on that forum, I bet it would get moved.
 

jamezr

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Some updates are really more monumental than the rest like Samsung Pay or Apple Pay. I still don't get my updates on S5.
actually the S5 got Marshmallow this month.

http://www.droid-life.com/2016/05/24/t-mobiles-samsung-galaxy-s5-gets-marshmallow-update/
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You can using an Apple Watch with iPhone 5. It looks super dumb on the iPhone 5 though in store. But hey, it's compatible.


For all the Android lovers and fanboys here, I need to remind you this is MacRumors.

As I say and perhaps you fail to read the wjole thread, whatever Top 10 Android/Samsung users can point out are either subjective or will be copied by Apple eventually.
Context is everything my friend. You are in the Alternate section of MacRumors.
Agreed with the bolded above. Apple follows Android/Samsung feature sets and incorporates them into IOS eventually. But that puts them years behind Android/Samsung in new features doesn't it.....
 

iSheep5S

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Some updates are really more monumental than the rest like Samsung Pay or Apple Pay. I still don't get my updates on S5.

The very weekend i sold my S5 it got marshmallow. I got an S7 edge but i dropped it, first time ever... It cracked the screen lightly and i managed to get £390 for it in this condition! I paid £450 for it as an open box with sealed accessories. Trading in my old phone i wasn't out of pocket too much.

I opted for the non edge as I'm not keen on content rolling off the edge. It, since i got it has had every security update.

Interestingly i read an article stating google would call out any mobile brand that delays updates. Not sure if it was a coincident but my S5 updated that month.

The trolling here is insane. Old android phones compared to new etc. The game changes all the time.

Waitandwait, you seem inexperienced with android judging by a lot of your statements.

FWIW i have an iPad pro 12.9 so i get iOS, A macbook, a nexus 7 so i get the tablet android, and my S7 which is a device to pull away from stale iOS on iPhone.
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

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My list is made up facts. PROVE ME WRONG. None of you can, because Samsung is really **** at the 10 points.

Your list is NOT FACTUAL for everyone. Not everyone lives near an Apple Store. Many don't even live remotely near one. So there you go, PROVEN WRONG.

Half of your list doesn't even speak about the device itself.

Resale value is the last thing on my mind when choosing a smartphone.

Your second point about sercurity. I don't even know what the hell you are talking about. I have full control over notifications. There's none that I can't turn off.

Your 10th point. You claim you can't differentiate Samsung phones from each other, but then claim to have all the S and Note models. o_O
 

iSheep5S

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Well done I'm guessing you know me well. Not that i experience all the devices. Laptops, tablets and mobiles.

In my experience when an update is released for a device a carrier locked one will be a bit behind but will still get it.

In the world of mobiles bad news sticks. Being called out is sometimes enough.

You come across as pretty immature. Id suggest you stop buying inferior android mobiles and stick to iPhone. Maybe go play outside instead of ruffling your feathers on forums.
 

Klyster

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This is the Alternatives to IOS section of macrumours.
The talk in here is about alternatives to IOS (shock horror).
You need to learn the definition of "fact". The word gets used incorrectly, way too often...
People who are prone to make statements that are incorrect aren't usually good at identifying facts.

Note 5 has marshmallow- fact.
IPhone 5 has Apple Pay- not a fact.
 
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