Touch Bar should have been ADDED, not REPLACED

[myhaksown]

100% agree. with Pock it was pretty great. but, one gripe was that its lowest brightness was higher than the screen brightness. quickshade couldnt be applied to it so it wasnt great in the dark.
overall, I'm indifferent though. it was useful with pock, but still easier & quicker to just drag the mouse to the dock and click the app.
I think i had the dock on pock, which was pretty cool, but yeah, it not being a part of the normal usage of a computer or another keyboard (laptop or desktop) around the home or office meant it was something you'd have to specifically remember to use.



3D touch...hmm. how has it changed now that they removed it? i mean, isn't it mostly the same with haptic touch? I swear I thought it was still there lol.


what might that 10% be? basically separating the long hold and the hard touch - and thus not triggering it unless it's strictly intended?

I’ll admit, haptic does much of the same. But I don’t like the way it uses time held to open the menu. With 3D Touch I pressed, felt haptic, and pressed the button I wanted. Being a 3D Touch power user and forced to haptic was like going from a mechanical keyboard to a butterfly switch keyboard. It felt really upsetting and I don’t bother using Haptic Touch at all.

 

[redheeler]

The touch bar era was the absolute nadir of Macs for me. At that point, they were so expensive, so underpowered compared to all alternatives, and the pinnacle of the thinness fetish at all costs, that I thought I was going to be forced to go back to Windows. Fortunately they recovered and got rid of that nonsense and began to move in the direction of Apple Silicon. Otherwise I would be back on PCs at this point.

Missed your reply earlier but 2017 into 2018 was probably the lowest point for anyone looking for a new Mac since the 90s. Apple was offering a disastrously underpowered Mac mini from 2014, an aged Mac Pro from 2013, an outdated and non-Retina MacBook Air, the Butterfly keyboard and cooling issues were affecting all the newly-released MacBook Pros due to that obsession with thinness, slow mechanical drives on the base 21.5" iMacs which made them a terrible experience for the money, and the iMac Pro was extremely expensive for an all-in-one with the same limitations all the all-in-ones had – the inability to use your gorgeous 5K screen with anything but the computer inside.

 

[Seiko4169]

Shame it wasn't left as a customer option. I miss mine.

 

[Audentia]

No, the MAIN problem is that the freaking thing is TOUCH - sensitive to the lightest nudge.

right, which would be resolved if there were haptics and a necessary pressure to trigger said virtual button press with haptics, like the track pad.

 

[JuicyGoomba]

It was completely useless and those that say otherwise are in denial.

If you're looking down at your keyboard you've immediately lost productivity. No touch typist is ever going to look down to use some gimmicky screen.

Cool concept for sure, but no more useful than other gimmicks like the StreamDeck.