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rhett7660

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What are you dates for Paris?

I STRONGLY suggest to take extra days to go outside of Paris, if time/budget allows, you can go to Reims for a Champagne day trip or Bourgogne or South of France or Bretagne. Lots of things to do & see.

It’s always nice to visit the capital of a country but going on the countryside would give you a real feel of the people, culture and the country.

I’ll be in Paris end of September and I already booked my tickets for le Château de Versailles. We will visit l’Arc de Triomphe, la Tour Eiffel, les Jardins du Luxembourg, Montorgueil, Montmartre and l’Opéra Garnier. This is my favourite spot in Paris:



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View attachment 2042791 Then, we will stay 2 nights in Reims and spend the rest of the trip in the South.

Thank you, if you don't mind me asking who did you book your tickets through? I have been looking and it seems there are a lot of places to book! Just curious.

Thanks Again and thank you all for the recommendations! Greatly appreciated.
 

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I booked everything myself and made a planning. For hotels, booking.com, for Champagne, TripAdvisor & for flights Transavia. For Château de Versailles, their website.
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rhett7660

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Well I can say, Paris was a blast. We did just the city with a day trip to Versailles. So here is what we liked and something that were just ok.

The good:

  • Versailles, freaking loved it and wish we could have done a whole day in the gardens area. We wanted to rent one of the golf carts, but they were books, so we checked the day of, and they were still booked. Grrr. But the area as whole is incredible.
  • Eiffel Tower. WOW. Pictures and video's do not do it justice.
  • Notre Dame, WOW. Even though we couldn't go inside as it is still under construction, the sheer size of it is something to behold.
  • Louvre Museum, WOW. Another one you don't really get how big it is until you get there and then once you get in side, the sheer size of it all is breathtaking. The fact they have walls from the original castle inside the place. WOW.
  • Arc of Triumph, pretty darn cool, the road leading up to and the location where the Obelisks is located are very cool to see and read about while you are there. Knowing folks lost their heads there...
  • Taking a short'ish cruise on the Seine. Awesome. We did the mid afternoon to sunset cruise and it was worth it.
  • The Latin Quarter and Napoleon's Tomb... pretty darn cool.
  • The architecture in general especially those along the Seine. All of the little streets and "alleys" we found and went down just because of the way they looked. Loved it.
  • The catocombs. LOVED THEM! Also visited some of the graveyards in the area including Jim Morrison's grave site. We are weird that way, but found these areas to be really cool and the fact they go back so far!
  • While we didn't get to go inside, the Sainte-Chapelle is something else as well as one of the court houses we went by. For a court house, it was something else to look at!
  • The cafe's and various eating shops (bread, coffee, sweets, etc) was amazing! We had one meal that was just ok, but everything else was mouth watering.
  • The various parks we visited, walked through, sat down and took in the scenes, etc. Awesome!
  • Pantheon... The sheer size of it! I wonder where the Supreme Court got it's influence from!
  • Place Vendome... the giant column with the statue on top!
  • Shopping! We wish would could have gone to the flee markets, but they were only going the day we arrived or the day we were leaving, but the shopping in general, outside of the tourist area was great. We really dug going into some of the shops that had antiques etc in them.
  • The ability to get around the city! Loved the fact they had bike lanes around it all! We ended up renting a few electric bikes and scooters to see a lot of the city stuff. No regrets and highly recommend this if you can!
  • The food... good lord the food was amazing. We actually did the cheeses and a few meats in one of the parks. Good stuff as we were tired from all of the walking.
  • Did I mention the food! :)
  • I know I am missing stuff, but we had a great time and didn't have tooooo much trouble talking. It is almost like as soon as we walked in, folks knew we were not from around these parts. And almost all of them, with the exception of a few spoke English to some degree.
The stuff that was not our favorites:
  • The weather was strange for us. 60 degrees with 80-90% humidity. Didn't know if you wanted to be cold or sweat your butt off.
  • The smoking, good lord, there was a lot of smoking!
  • Folks not cleaning up after their pets on the side walks... come on people!
  • One thing that I am assuming is a by-product of covid, is everything closed around 2200 hours. We were so busy site seeing one day and we got home around 2300 hours or so and nothing was open but the local McDonalds. So we had it delivered to the hotel!
  • We didn't bump into a lot of things we didn't like.
 
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Well I can say, Paris was a blast. We did just the city with a day trip to Versailles. So here is what we liked and something that were just ok.

The good:

  • Versailles, freaking loved it and wish we could have done a whole day in the gardens area. We wanted to rent one of the golf carts, but they were books, so we checked the day of, and they were still booked. Grrr. But the area as whole is incredible.
  • Eiffel Tower. WOW. Pictures and video's do not do it justice.
  • Notre Dame, WOW. Even though we couldn't go inside as it is still under construction, the sheer size of it is something to behold.
  • Louvre Museum, WOW. Another one you don't really get how big it is until you get there and then once you get in side, the sheer size of it all is breathtaking. The fact they have walls from the original castle inside the place. WOW.
  • Arc of Triumph, pretty darn cool, the road leading up to and the location where the Obelisks is located are very cool to see and read about while you are there. Knowing folks lost their heads there...
  • Taking a short'ish cruise on the Seine. Awesome. We did the mid afternoon to sunset cruise and it was worth it.
  • The Latin Quarter and Napoleon's Tomb... pretty darn cool.
  • The architecture in general especially those along the Seine. All of the little streets and "alleys" we found and went down just because of the way they looked. Loved it.
  • The catocombs. LOVED THEM! Also visited some of the graveyards in the area including Jim Morrison's grave site. We are weird that way, but found these areas to be really cool and the fact they go back so far!
  • While we didn't get to go inside, the Sainte-Chapelle is something else as well as one of the court houses we went by. For a court house, it was something else to look at!
  • The cafe's and various eating shops (bread, coffee, sweets, etc) was amazing! We had one meal that was just ok, but everything else was mouth watering.
  • The various parks we visited, walked through, sat down and took in the scenes, etc. Awesome!
  • Pantheon... The sheer size of it! I wonder where the Supreme Court got it's influence from!
  • Place Vendome... the giant column with the statue on top!
  • Shopping! We wish would could have gone to the flee markets, but they were only going the day we arrived or the day we were leaving, but the shopping in general, outside of the tourist area was great. We really dug going into some of the shops that had antiques etc in them.
  • The ability to get around the city! Loved the fact they had bike lanes around it all! We ended up renting a few electric bikes and scooters to see a lot of the city stuff. No regrets and highly recommend this if you can!
  • The food... good lord the food was amazing. We actually did the cheeses and a few meats in one of the parks. Good stuff as we were tired from all of the walking.
  • Did I mention the food! :)
  • I know I am missing stuff, but we had a great time and didn't have tooooo much trouble talking. It is almost like as soon as we walked in, folks knew we were not from around these parts. And almost all of them, with the exception of a few spoke English to some degree.
The stuff that was not our favorites:
  • The weather was strange for us. 60 degrees with 80-90% humidity. Didn't know if you wanted to be cold or sweat your butt off.
  • The smoking, good lord, there was a lot of smoking!
  • Folks not cleaning up after their pets on the side walks... come on people!
  • One thing that I am assuming is a by-product of covid, is everything closed around 2200 hours. We were so busy site seeing one day and we got home around 2300 hours or so and nothing was open but the local McDonalds. So we had it delivered to the hotel!
  • We didn't bump into a lot of things we didn't like.
Delighted that you enjoyed yourself so much; in common with @arkitect, I love Paris, and, for a very long time it was probably my favorite city, while I was an unabashed - nay passionate - Francophile.
 
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TheIntruder

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One thing that I am assuming is a by-product of covid, is everything closed around 2200 hours. We were so busy site seeing one day and we got home around 2300 hours or so and nothing was open but the local McDonalds. So we had it delivered to the hotel!

Even pre-pandemic, a lot of places closed for the night between 2000-2200, at least in Italy, France and Germany.

Distinctly recall rushing to the market after dinner in Venice, and the place was packed with visitors stocking up before closing time. In Milan, a bodega came to the rescue when the chain market was closed.

But perhaps not in Spain, which is famous for its late hours, but I intend to find out first hand in the future.

No 24hr supermarkets or running to Target or Walmart at 2230 like we can do here.

Another unusual thing from a US perspective was that all the checkout clerks conduct business while seated. Odd that their American counterparts aren't afforded the same luxury.
 

rhett7660

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Even pre-pandemic, a lot of places closed for the night between 2000-2200, at least in Italy, France and Germany.

Distinctly recall rushing to the market after dinner in Venice, and the place was packed with visitors stocking up before closing time. In Milan, a bodega came to the rescue when the chain market was closed.

But perhaps not in Spain, which is famous for its late hours, but I intend to find out first hand in the future.

No 24hr supermarkets or running to Target or Walmart at 2230 like we can do here.

Another unusual thing from a US perspective was that all the checkout clerks conduct business while seated. Odd that their American counterparts aren't afforded the same luxury.

Interesting... We were looking up things on Yelp, yes I know it isn't the best thing, however they hours were showing open to say midnight or two in the morning and they were closed. And you are correct regarding the sitting down. I have seen this done at some of my Wal-Mart's, but overall, yup, most are standing.

We are planning an Octoberfest trip to Munich for next year with some site seeing thrown in!
 

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Interesting... We were looking up things on Yelp, yes I know it isn't the best thing, however they hours were showing open to say midnight or two in the morning and they were closed. And you are correct regarding the sitting down. I have seen this done at some of my Wal-Mart's, but overall, yup, most are standing.

We are planning an Octoberfest trip to Munich for next year with some site seeing thrown in!

Yelp listings are maintained by the businesses, if they choose to claim them. I don't doubt some places have different hours in this post-pandemic world, but in general, conservative hours were in place beforehand.

After Paris, Munich will have a different vibe. There is still a fair bit of sidewalk dining, and drinking/smoking (including hookah) seems to be a favorite pastime for a lot of folks, who hang out on the street at night, but it's much more low key, and a smaller town feel.

If you're a fan of science and technology, the largest science museum in the world is in Munich, and has two annexes. Make time for it, and plan to take in the BMW Museum, and tour the factory. But reserve in advance one you know the dates, since the English language tours are limited in number and sell out.

Munich's public transportation system is very good -- efficient and clean (despite the age of some of the subway trains, still in excellent shape, but manual doors) -- and fare control relies on the honor system, with no gates or barriers. Tickets are time stamped (DIY), and only enforced through spot checks (which some seek thrills in trying to evade; not worth the 60 Euro fine). Buses, street trams, U-Bahn (subway) and S-Bahn (rail) are part of the same fare system. MUC airport is clean and modern, but a distance from the city.

I'd also rent a car, and head south toward the Alps, which are within a couple hours, to see some of the small towns. Gorgeous scenery there, and on the way there as well.
 

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This thread was a great read. Haven't been to Paris for 40 years but loved the place.

Vegas'll never be the same again, eh? :)
 
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If you're interested in art, the Musée d'Orsay is another great option in addition to the Louvre. It's located in a beautiful old railway station. For a different perspective on Paris, take a boat tour on the Seine River. You'll get to see the city's famous landmarks from a different angle.
 
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If you're interested in art, the Musée d'Orsay is another great option in addition to the Louvre. It's located in a beautiful old railway station. For a different perspective on Paris, take a boat tour on the Seine River. You'll get to see the city's famous landmarks from a different angle.

Agree with you re the Musée d'Orsay, especially if you are partial to Impressionism; a stunning setting for a museum dedicated to 19th century art, and some incredible artwork on display. Well worth a visit.
 

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If you're interested in art, the Musée d'Orsay is another great option

ome incredible artwork on display

In addition to the previous comments, I'd just add that the Musée d'Orsay is interesting for art and architecture. Its use of a repurposed railway station was one of the first highly successful projects to transform a building thought to be obsolete and unworthy of preservation.

For contrast, the Centre Pompidou is interesting for its art and architecture as well but with a highly innovative design made specifically for its site and its activities. The surrounding area, Beauborg, is rewarding to visit as well as it was the former site of Paris' main food market, Les Halles, and traces and references to this history are fun to find.
 
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In addition to the previous comments, I'd just add that the Musée d'Orsay is interesting for art and architecture. Its use of a repurposed railway station was one of the first highly successful projects to transform a building thought to be obsolete and unworthy of preservation.

For contrast, the Centre Pompidou is interesting for its art and architecture as well but with a highly innovative design made specifically for its site and its activities. The surrounding area, Beauborg, is rewarding to visit as well as it was the former site of Paris' main food market, Les Halles, and traces and references to this history are fun to find.
Agree completely with what you have written about architecture, (as well as the superlative art in the museum).

That repurposed railway station is, itself, a spectacular (and gloriously light-filled) building.
 
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