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Tree-Style tabs: Why I CANT switch to Safari (though I wish I could!)
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Ahh, no system, how did I guess? So why pretend you have a system when you don't?
Your non-system is to perform your (undoubtedly rare) 12 tab use case, but get distracted half way through, do something else (eg Craigs List - or shopping on Amazon, I see several such tabs in your screen grab, seems this is mostly what YOU do on the web), then get distracted during those and do something else.
Hence 50 tabs. Many activities get forgotten or delayed because you're constantly distracted buying stuff on Amazon in tabs 22 & 46.
I already explained you deal with the 12 tabs, then close them. How does a 12 tab use case get to 50? Disorganisation, distraction and a lack of discipline.
This is how most people use the internet - I know this from 15 years of conducting website usability tests. Thanks for calling me Junior though, very kind, I moisturise.
You aren't special. You have no 'system'. You're just using the net how most people do - just in an even more extreme way. Go back and clean up tabs more often, don't get sidetracked. Close your browser from time to time (great for freeing up memory), close more tabs more often (again great for freeing system resources) - and you could easily switch to Safari and your computer would thank you.
Or keep going with your inefficient wasteful non-system. It's your life. But do try and learn to take good advice or self-reflect, it's a useful skill.
Your non-system is to perform your (undoubtedly rare) 12 tab use case, but get distracted half way through, do something else (eg Craigs List - or shopping on Amazon, I see several such tabs in your screen grab, seems this is mostly what YOU do on the web), then get distracted during those and do something else.
Hence 50 tabs. Many activities get forgotten or delayed because you're constantly distracted buying stuff on Amazon in tabs 22 & 46.
I already explained you deal with the 12 tabs, then close them. How does a 12 tab use case get to 50? Disorganisation, distraction and a lack of discipline.
This is how most people use the internet - I know this from 15 years of conducting website usability tests. Thanks for calling me Junior though, very kind, I moisturise.
You aren't special. You have no 'system'. You're just using the net how most people do - just in an even more extreme way. Go back and clean up tabs more often, don't get sidetracked. Close your browser from time to time (great for freeing up memory), close more tabs more often (again great for freeing system resources) - and you could easily switch to Safari and your computer would thank you.
Or keep going with your inefficient wasteful non-system. It's your life. But do try and learn to take good advice or self-reflect, it's a useful skill.
Ooooh GOD.
Seems to me that you didn't even realize yet that you are talking to 2 people and are getting confused.
So let me repeat. I already explained what I do and why, you still didn't say anything making sense. I didn't say 12 tabs, I said 3*20 + 5 (and that's only for what I am doing RIGHT NOW, not counting the tabs opened before that to which I will go back in say 1 hour). C'mon, give me your best shot!
You really sound like you have a squeaky clean empty desk, Junior!
Seems to me that you didn't even realize yet that you are talking to 2 people and are getting confused.
So let me repeat. I already explained what I do and why, you still didn't say anything making sense. I didn't say 12 tabs, I said 3*20 + 5 (and that's only for what I am doing RIGHT NOW, not counting the tabs opened before that to which I will go back in say 1 hour). C'mon, give me your best shot!
You really sound like you have a squeaky clean empty desk, Junior!
So the majority of your web browsing involves having 3 * 20 tabs open for "research"? So lets see a screen shot then to gauge what this research is...
[doublepost=1461775503][/doublepost](tip - don't show us your private browsing 3*20 tabs - unless thats the "research" to which you were referring?)
[doublepost=1461776408][/doublepost]You state you sometimes have 750 tabs open at work.
Maths isn't my strong point but 3*20 != 750. Yet I'm sure you still would say it makes sense to do so - that you're not inefficient, lazy or badly organised.
How can you live like that it's barbaric. I dread to think how your apartment looks.
[doublepost=1461775503][/doublepost](tip - don't show us your private browsing 3*20 tabs - unless thats the "research" to which you were referring?)
[doublepost=1461776408][/doublepost]You state you sometimes have 750 tabs open at work.
Maths isn't my strong point but 3*20 != 750. Yet I'm sure you still would say it makes sense to do so - that you're not inefficient, lazy or badly organised.
How can you live like that it's barbaric. I dread to think how your apartment looks.
And pray tell, why exactly should I show you ****?
I didn't say that "the majority of my web browsing" involves that. It involves MUCH more (my record was >500 tabs, not long ago. Swooned yet?). You can believe it or not, that is your problem - not mine. Right now, in this very same WINDOW, I have >100 tabs. I have 4 more windows. Hurrah Firefox!
But let's talk about you. I gave a very clear example that you still didn't answer - no need to even believe me! So let me repeat: how on Earth does storing N bookmarks help me find which of those pages did say something in particular?
Anyway, good to see that you finally realized that there's two of us! Maybe you're too used to oversimplification and get lost easily... maybe you should try opening a couple of tabs more.
Oh, and I'm curious: right now I have 2 LibreOffice documents open, 3 PDFs open in Preview, and 10 Terminal windows open. Also, I have 2 books open on my desk. Would you suggest that I close all of those and only leave one thing open? Or is it enough for you if I only leave one open of each? Please enlighten me.
I didn't say that "the majority of my web browsing" involves that. It involves MUCH more (my record was >500 tabs, not long ago. Swooned yet?). You can believe it or not, that is your problem - not mine. Right now, in this very same WINDOW, I have >100 tabs. I have 4 more windows. Hurrah Firefox!
But let's talk about you. I gave a very clear example that you still didn't answer - no need to even believe me! So let me repeat: how on Earth does storing N bookmarks help me find which of those pages did say something in particular?
Anyway, good to see that you finally realized that there's two of us! Maybe you're too used to oversimplification and get lost easily... maybe you should try opening a couple of tabs more
.Oh, and I'm curious: right now I have 2 LibreOffice documents open, 3 PDFs open in Preview, and 10 Terminal windows open. Also, I have 2 books open on my desk. Would you suggest that I close all of those and only leave one thing open? Or is it enough for you if I only leave one open of each? Please enlighten me.
Actually you said 750.
Clearly, you have mental problems - 750 tabs is hoarding behaviour. Go and see a specialist dude. The fact Safari can't do more than 100 tabs shows that *you are the problem* not Safari. It shows you *this is a bad way to work*.
Yes - close some apps. You're doing computers wrong. Perhaps you would be more comfortable with an iPad where multi-tasking is managed for you.
Forget your example. Lets focus on your 750 tabs - as that is what you do - it's a much better example. Are you seriously saying you need 750 tabs open at the same time? How do you even remember what tabs are open, why not just bookmark tab groups? If you won't be using most of them for the next 24 hours there's no point having them open.
How are you able to go back and find a tab if you need it? You can't - you are a ridiculous, lazy, disorganised person. If there were no email notifications you wouldn't be able to find this tab to reply. You have forgotten most of your open tabs even exist. If any of your tabs contain anything time critical of importance, you're screwed - it's long forgotten.
The reason you work like this is because you constantly get distracted, you stop task A in the middle and go to task B, then task C, then task D - never finishing the previous task. This is a very inefficient unproductive way to work. Causing errors, forgetting deadlines, leaving work unfinished.
You are probably amongst the 5% most lazy, inefficient, disorganised people on the planet. But - it makes you feel better about yourself to call random people "Junior" - I guess you're too busy "managing" your tabs to get good at trolling. Still nice first try, good effort - keep trying and I'll give you a nice gold star if I hear about you doing any good trolling in future!
My free advice is over - just be assured, as several people on here have told you; You're Browsing Wrong.
Take good advice when it's offered.
I'm turning off notifications - feel free to implement my life advice. If you want more you'll have to get it elsewhere.
Tata YBW.
Clearly, you have mental problems - 750 tabs is hoarding behaviour. Go and see a specialist dude. The fact Safari can't do more than 100 tabs shows that *you are the problem* not Safari. It shows you *this is a bad way to work*.
Yes - close some apps. You're doing computers wrong. Perhaps you would be more comfortable with an iPad where multi-tasking is managed for you.
Forget your example. Lets focus on your 750 tabs - as that is what you do - it's a much better example. Are you seriously saying you need 750 tabs open at the same time? How do you even remember what tabs are open, why not just bookmark tab groups? If you won't be using most of them for the next 24 hours there's no point having them open.
How are you able to go back and find a tab if you need it? You can't - you are a ridiculous, lazy, disorganised person. If there were no email notifications you wouldn't be able to find this tab to reply. You have forgotten most of your open tabs even exist. If any of your tabs contain anything time critical of importance, you're screwed - it's long forgotten.
The reason you work like this is because you constantly get distracted, you stop task A in the middle and go to task B, then task C, then task D - never finishing the previous task. This is a very inefficient unproductive way to work. Causing errors, forgetting deadlines, leaving work unfinished.
You are probably amongst the 5% most lazy, inefficient, disorganised people on the planet. But - it makes you feel better about yourself to call random people "Junior" - I guess you're too busy "managing" your tabs to get good at trolling. Still nice first try, good effort - keep trying and I'll give you a nice gold star if I hear about you doing any good trolling in future!
My free advice is over - just be assured, as several people on here have told you; You're Browsing Wrong.
Take good advice when it's offered.
I'm turning off notifications - feel free to implement my life advice. If you want more you'll have to get it elsewhere.
Tata YBW.
I LOL'd. Yeah, and I'm probably holding it wrong, too.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, / Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
And of course, instead of answering the simple question of "how do I find something in a bunch of bookmarks", better to write a multi-paragraph life advice piece of ****. Huh huh. Makes sense. That shows your productivity!
And of course, instead of answering the simple question of "how do I find something in a bunch of bookmarks", better to write a multi-paragraph life advice piece of ****. Huh huh. Makes sense. That shows your productivity!
Do you realise you can put folders in bookmarks and have them all layered into groups of bookmarks or more folders? and drag and arrange them to suit? Much more efficient that all those tabs open.
I find safari struggles with multiple tabs and any one of them has a slightly complicated page or flash, or anything trickier. God knows how you cope with 50+ tabs, you must love that little pinwheel.
C'mon, if you didn't even read the discussion, why answer?
1.- The problem is not finding a bookmark, but finding something in the page pointed to by the bookmark.
2.- I'm not using Safari, I'm using Firefox, and it deals with humongous sets of tabs without breaking a sweat - or at least it does once you get a couple of extensions. TreeStyleTabs, the point of this whole thread, is one of them.
[doublepost=1461783634][/doublepost]Oh, and I should add - I use Firefox Betas. So I guess that the normal Firefox is even more stable.
Still not getting it...
Imagine you have 100 bookmarks, and that you remember that SOME of those (not only one!) contained something you need. Not only a simple keyword, either.
What would you do? Open the 100 bookmarks to see which ones are the ones you need?
A while later you want to retrieve something different, that is in OTHER pages. Again, will you cycle through the bookmarks?
Pasting?? Yeah, I will paste these 5 dictionaries into a ... I don't know... Word document? Is that efficient enough for you?
And diagrams. These also can go into Word I guess.
Then, if I search something and it happens to contain an interesting link, ... well, I guess I will also need to use bookmarks or something. Right?
Look, if you don't understand something, just stay away. Really. I guess you are just trying to help, but hey, for that first you have to put some energy into understanding the whole shebang, and you aren't even trying.
Imagine you have 100 bookmarks, and that you remember that SOME of those (not only one!) contained something you need. Not only a simple keyword, either.
What would you do? Open the 100 bookmarks to see which ones are the ones you need?
A while later you want to retrieve something different, that is in OTHER pages. Again, will you cycle through the bookmarks?
Pasting?? Yeah, I will paste these 5 dictionaries into a ... I don't know... Word document? Is that efficient enough for you?
And diagrams. These also can go into Word I guess.
Then, if I search something and it happens to contain an interesting link, ... well, I guess I will also need to use bookmarks or something. Right?
Look, if you don't understand something, just stay away. Really. I guess you are just trying to help, but hey, for that first you have to put some energy into understanding the whole shebang, and you aren't even trying.
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My free advice is over - just be assured, as several people on here have told you; You're Browsing Wrong.
Take good advice when it's offered.
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Tata YBW.
He obviously missed the joke when someone said "you're browsing wrong" lol.
So hopefully this troll will stay true to his last post and stop dispensing his "life advice" in this thread...
I hope, someday, he gets outside his tiny world and realizes how much more he might accomplish with more than the 1 tab he uses today.
Maybe some of us can't think down to needing all that in front of us at all times. Or are just really good at our job
If knowing how to install a couple of add-ons into Firefox means all of that, then... sure, why not. You seem to have low standards, though.
or maybe don't need to copy everyone else's work and can think for ourselves
Well, for now I only see people who not only can NOT think for themselves, but have trouble even imagining that there are better and different ways to do things, and insist on doing things in absurdly slow ways while repeating some misunderstood, mistaken, misguided idea of "efficiency".
But hey, you'll be glad to know that you're not alone. My father is about 70 years old, and he tends to do as you said: since he gets lost with tabs, he copies lots of crap into Word documents, for reading/referencing/archiving. Mind you, at least he no longer prints them! Good that you didn't suggest that, too
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