Tried a 2018 i5 Mini for 2 weeks and it's going back !!

[Spectrum]

When I open up display I see 14 color profiles to select from.
I tried every one for my 2013 and 2017 MBP using the GUI
and an open chrome session as content to find which one
looked the most pleasing.

I didn't use any scientific know how. For both MBP's, "Generic RGB Profile"
seemed the most pleasing so I have always used that profile. It may not
be cinematically correct but out of the preconfigured choices available to me,
this choice looks the best for both Sierra and Mavericks. I've been using
"Generic RGB Profile" since 2013.

Making a custom calibration file would be a disaster since I'm not
skilled at calibrating. When I select a white level that looks good to
my eyes, other colors go out of balance. All the shades selections
I am sure I would mess up as well.

The higher "saturation and contrast" of "Generic RGB Profile" is probably
what makes all the colors pop while giving me a sharp looking image.
This is probably not an accurate color profile, but it looks dazzling to me
and people still look like they have a normal skin tone.

Thanks for hanging in there with me Spectrum.

I wonder if the Generic RGB profile on Sierra is different to that in Mojave?
You can Open the profiles from the Display>Color tab and compare the stats between the two macOS versions.
If they are different it should be possible to copy across the Sierra profile to the Mojave Mac.
Additional profiles are stored in: HD/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/Displays, but I'm not sure where the default "GenericRGB" profile is stored...

EDIT: Found them. They are inside: System/Library/ColorSync/Profiles

 

[PJivan]

Ploki, you are wrong. Posts like yours make me wonder why I should even educate you

I can’t bare arrogance in general, but when it’s mixed with ignorance like in your case it suddenly becomes hilarious! You made my day, I almost spilled my cup.

 

[Tom80112]

I can’t bare arrogance in general, but when it’s mixed with ignorance like in your case it suddenly becomes hilarious! You made my day, I almost spilled my cup.

In this previous post that you quoted, Ploki was claiming that my 2017 MBP had the same graphics as the 2018 Mini which was incorrect. My MBP has discrete Radeon Pro 555 video section which the 2018 Mini does not have. At the time I thought that this was the cause of my poor video quality when using the 2018 Mini. Ploki (among others) repeatedly posted (some posts were deleted by the admin) that I was a troll and that I was making up this entire "Blurry Video on a 2018 Mini" situation. Because I was very upset by all the attacks, I was very curt in defending my statements including the one that my MBP has discrete video which is different and better performing than the Intel 630 IGP in the 2018 Mini.

I thought I was onto something that the MBP with Radeon had better video output based on exhaustive A/B comparisons but it turns out MacOS Mojave was the culprit. I was sharing my results that the MBP looked way better thinking it might benefit someone. I was right about the 2018 Mini's video being jacked up for non-retina external displays. I was wrong about the root cause. It was in fact Mojave which is the only compatible OS for the 2018 Mini at this time.

Thanks for yet more abuse. I don't like it but have learned that there are a lot of negative people out there that enjoy posting insults every chance they get. I am wondering how you feel that your statement helped share any new MacOS knowledge with others or provided any sort of positive contribution to this real video issue?

This has been a real lesson for me. I'm better off reading the forums but not posting to them at all. It's just not worth all the ridicule that you get. I still love MacOS and bought by first MacSE dual-floppy back in 1987. I'm always looking for the best MacOS version and best hardware to run MacOS on.

 

[Fishrrman]

OP wrote:
"it's looking like I will return the Mini and stay with my MBP with Sierra which looks excellent. Even my old 2013 MBP Mavericks rig that I keep as a backup computer looks excellent running 1080p into my 27" Samsung"

I'd like to offer an alternative:
Return the Mini and get a 2017 design (current model) 5k iMac 27".
It can still run High Sierra, and you can keep it running HS into the foreseeable future...

 

[smbu2000]

Glad to see that you have a better idea of what is going on.
So is it all because of Mojave changing things? or also something to do with your monitor profile?

I'm using Mojave on my 2018 Mini and my current 2015 15" MBP and I haven't noticed any differences when viewing my monitor via DP or HDMI. My monitor's "display profile" is shown though when I check out color in display properties, "EV3237".

 

[Code cookies]

In this previous post that you quoted, Ploki was claiming that my 2017 MBP had the same graphics as the 2018 Mini which was incorrect. My MBP has discrete Radeon Pro 555 video section which the 2018 Mini does not have. At the time I thought that this was the cause of my poor video quality when using the 2018 Mini. Ploki (among others) repeatedly posted (some posts were deleted by the admin) that I was a troll and that I was making up this entire "Blurry Video on a 2018 Mini" situation. Because I was very upset by all the attacks, I was very curt in defending my statements including the one that my MBP has discrete video which is different and better performing than the Intel 630 IGP in the 2018 Mini.

I thought I was onto something that the MBP with Radeon had better video output based on exhaustive A/B comparisons but it turns out MacOS Mojave was the culprit. I was sharing my results that the MBP looked way better thinking it might benefit someone. I was right about the 2018 Mini's video being jacked up for non-retina external displays. I was wrong about the root cause. It was in fact Mojave which is the only compatible OS for the 2018 Mini at this time.

Thanks for yet more abuse. I don't like it but have learned that there are a lot of negative people out there that enjoy posting insults every chance they get. I am wondering how you feel that your statement helped share any new MacOS knowledge with others or provided any sort of positive contribution to this real video issue?

This has been a real lesson for me. I'm better off reading the forums but not posting to them at all. It's just not worth all the ridicule that you get. I still love MacOS and bought by first MacSE dual-floppy back in 1987. I'm always looking for the best MacOS version and best hardware to run MacOS on.

Do you see Radeon Pro 555 in the picture or do you need more help understanding that your statement is incorrect? You said: "Mini has the same GPU as the 2018 15" MBP".

What Ploki was stating is true, your 2017 MacBook Pro 15” does indeed have the same GPU as the Mac Mini, but it also has an additional GPU the Radeon Pro 555 which isn’t enabled all the time. I believe Ploki’s point was that if it were indeed an issue with the GPUs rendering differently, an argument that you kept pushing, then you would notice a difference on the MacBook Pro’s screen when it switches between the two GPUs during normal usage.

I believe the real issue stemmed from you arguing a point which many here do not believe to be true and has no logic or evidence to it, that the intel GPU does not render colours etc as well as a dedicated GPU. Had you started your issue off with “Hey my Mac mini and macbook seem to look different to each other on the same display any ideas why this might be, could it be the GPUs?” You may have gotten a better response. Rather than arguing it was down to the GPU and continued pushing that this was the issue when it isn’t.

While the response you got was not great, your arrogance here did you no favours.

 

[Tom80112]

The Mini went back. In the end this was more than a simple Mojave font issue.

I was able to sharpen the Mojave fonts on the Mini using commands but the overall
appearance of text after using the following command (with "-int 1", "-int 2",
or "-int 3") never looked as good as my MacBook Pros:

$ defaults -currentHost write -globalDomain AppleFontSmoothing -int 1

I also tried other commands documented online with no real success.
"Generic RGB Profile" values matched 100% between Sierra and Mojave.

Pictures also did not render as good on the Mini as if there were less shades
of color and less detail. MacOS GUI text, Apple menu drop-down pick lists, and
Webpages(pictures and text) using the Mini never looked as good as either of
the MacBook Pros that I own.

Taking screen shots did not capture the level of font/picture degradation I was
seeing on the Mini vs the MacBook Pros so I am not 100% convinced this is all
a Mojave issue.

Everything looks much better on my external non-retina 27" monitor when I use
either my 2013 MBP Mavericks or 2017 MBP Sierra rigs so I am happy to go back
to using them and stop all this horsing around trying to make the Mini look as good
video wise.

 

[Ploki]

To anyone reading this thread and thinking Mini has crap rendering:

Mini's GPU is fine and renders fine, there's no difference to OS/photo rendering on my 2012 rMBP, my returned 2018 i9, 2018 Mini and 2018 13" MBP.

Whatever issues OP was having were specific to his setup and it's unfortunate he wasn't able to fix them.

 

[WilliamG]

To anyone reading this thread and thinking Mini has crap rendering:

Mini's GPU is fine and renders fine, there's no difference to OS/photo rendering on my 2012 rMBP, my returned 2018 i9, 2018 Mini and 2018 13" MBP.

Whatever issues OP was having were specific to his setup and it's unfortunate he wasn't able to fix them.

Agreed. I returned my 2018 mini for other reasons, but the rendering was flawless across all my displays.

 

[Sarpanch]

Agreed. I returned my 2018 mini for other reasons, but the rendering was flawless across all my displays.

I agree as well. I have tried a 2012 Mini, a 2012 MBP and the 2018 Mini and all of them depict same results on Mojave.

 

[Spectrum]

Must as a final test: it couldn't be that you have the default display contrast in macOS set up differently on High Sierra than on Mojave?

See below:

The Mini went back. In the end this was more than a simple Mojave font issue.

I was able to sharpen the Mojave fonts on the Mini using commands but the overall
appearance of text after using the following command (with "-int 1", "-int 2",
or "-int 3") never looked as good as my MacBook Pros:

$ defaults -currentHost write -globalDomain AppleFontSmoothing -int 1

I also tried other commands documented online with no real success.
"Generic RGB Profile" values matched 100% between Sierra and Mojave.

Pictures also did not render as good on the Mini as if there were less shades
of color and less detail. MacOS GUI text, Apple menu drop-down pick lists, and
Webpages(pictures and text) using the Mini never looked as good as either of
the MacBook Pros that I own.

Taking screen shots did not capture the level of font/picture degradation I was
seeing on the Mini vs the MacBook Pros so I am not 100% convinced this is all
a Mojave issue.

Everything looks much better on my external non-retina 27" monitor when I use
either my 2013 MBP Mavericks or 2017 MBP Sierra rigs so I am happy to go back
to using them and stop all this horsing around trying to make the Mini look as good
video wise.

 

[Tom80112]

To anyone reading this thread..

Ploki who has attacked me numerous times calling me a troll (post deleted by the admin), wrongly stated that my MBP was displaying video to my external 1080p monitor using the intel 630 chip which was wrong because Radeon graphics are always used instead of the 630 when a Radeon equipped MBP is plugged into the wall (he used this claim to state what I was experiencing was impossible and that I was a troll), and stated my claims are impossible that the colors and image quality of pictures, webpages and the GUI are not as clear, sharp, detailed, and looked like they had less shades of color when using the 2018 Mini to drive my external 1080P monitor than the 2017 MBP with Radeon Discrete graphics. (Post 58) I will further support this last statement later in this post.

Someone else came on in post 56 to tell me that while the responses weren't great (a real understatement) that my arrogance was a real problem. I had already admitted in a previous post that I got defensive after all the attacks and was responding in a curt manner to justify that what I was experiencing was real. I'm not sure why Code Cookies needed to say that since I had already admitted to being curt as a result of all the attacks in a previous reply. I think many people react similarly curt when attacked.

I will mention there were a few people who were very helpful. Some of them also experienced the font issue on the 2018 Mini was real while others just slammed me saying it was impossible. Spectrum was especially helpful to me.

Now for my 2 claims:
1. Fonts do not look good on a 2018 Mac Mini when driving non-retina displays. This was proven to be correct.

2. I also stated the discrete Radeon graphics rendered the image quality of pictures, webpages, and the GUI (Text and Images) better than the Intel IGP (630 chip). Here is a well documented post with images showing how Radeon Discrete graphics (and Nvidia for that matter) deliver a better image just like I experienced and wrote about in detail during this thread:

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...-intel-iris-pro-vs-radeon-and-geforce.241609/

In this analysis the author states that adjusting gamma does help the Intel IGP but that no amount of adjustments allow the Intel graphics to match what Radeon and Nvidia produces for video quality. I'm going to cherry-pick one quote from this author's analysis:

"This was enough to open my jaw wide open in disgust. Not only the quality of Intel HD looks like sh*t, it lacks a lot of detail that is present both on GeForce and Radeon accelerators."

 

[Ploki]

1. Because of Mojave, not because of Mini, we established that 3 pages ago, so it was never proven that Mini renders fonts badly, just that Mojave does. And i never claimed otherwise.

2. I claimed that UHD630 vs 560X on a 15" internal screen makes no difference for rendering OS and images. Which anyone with a 15" can confirm. I never claimed that 15" drives an external screen with UHD.

As far as rendering movies goes, it's a different issue altogether because of how H.264 gets decoded.



You are the only one on this forum, out of professionals who use professional displays that posted about such an issue.
It's entirely possible that your specific setup (connection issues, cable issues, whatever) didn't produce the correct image, and i never said that's not possible, but that's due to user error not due to design of the Mini.

Please don't mislead and scare potential buyers with claims that have no technical ground nor can be reproduced by any other person on this forum.

You use a 27" Samsung curved monitor for 300$ as you stated, a user that uses an Eizo 4K monitor for the price of 4 yours with 8bit+FRC color depth.
You didn't specify which exact model but curved samsungs at that price seem to be 8bit (not 10bit) color depth and fullHD (not 4K) resolution, which also begs the question of how well would you even be able to tell if one or not the other was outputting 10 bit or not.

What you are claiming makes absolutely no sense, more people have explained this to you in many possible ways.
Nobody is saying what you saw isn't true, but what you are claiming to be the cause is 100% not true.
At the very least, you might have had a faulty unit.

Difference in video quality?
I noticed zero difference in quality between my 2018 mini (i7/32gb/512gb) and my (now former) 2017 15” MBP (2.9/16gb/512gb/AMD 560) laptop connected to the same 4k monitor (Eizo EV3237).

 

[Tom80112]

1. Because of Mojave, not because of Mini, we established that 3 pages ago, so it was never proven that Mini renders fonts badly, just that Mojave does. And i never claimed otherwise.

1. If you buy a 2018 Mini you are stuck with crappy looking fonts because the 2018 Mini only works with Mojave. So what I said is 100% true:
"Fonts do not look good on a 2018 Mac Mini when driving non-retina displays"

2. The analysis I posted a link to discusses Pictures, Movies, and Games being rendered on Intel IGP vs Radeon. All his observations matched mine. Intel's IGP does not look as good as Radeon Discrete Graphics. So what I said is true and proven by others.

3. There is nothing wrong with my setup. You keep muddying the waters by repeatedly blaming everything on my setup. Both my 27" Samsung 1080P Monitor and a 24" ASUS 1080P Gaming Monitor I keep as a backup monitor look great using both my 2017 Radeon Based MBP and my 2013 Nvidia Based MBP. If there was anything wrong with my monitors or cables or whatever, I would not get excellent/better video quality with both my MBPs using either of the 2 monitors. The only gear that was a problem was the 2018 Mini which I returned to BestBuy. The 2018 Mini worked as designed but could not match the video quality of a 2013 Nvidia MBP or a 2017 Radeon MBP driving the same external Samsung 1080P monitor. So what I said is true.

Some people don't have keen eyesight to notice differences in video quality that I encountered. Especially the font issue when using a 2018 Mini. Many people denied the font issue was possible in this thread including yourself until other people stepped up and provided their experiences seeing it. Then the links to other articles proving the font issue were posted by others to prove it.

I suggest people go with a MBP with Radeon running Sierra or High Sierra or an IMAC with Radeon running Sierra or High Sierra. I do not recommend the 2018 Mini.

 

[Ploki]

1. If you buy a 2018 Mini you are stuck with crappy looking fonts because the 2018 Mini only works with Mojave. So what I said is 100% true:
"Fonts do not look good on a 2018 Mac Mini when driving non-retina displays"

2. The analysis I posted a link to discusses Pictures, Movies, and Games being rendered on Intel IGP vs Radeon. All his observations matched mine. Intel's IGP does not look as good as Radeon Discrete Graphics. So what I said is true and proven by others.

3. There is nothing wrong with my setup. You keep muddying the waters by repeatedly blaming everything on my setup. Both my 27" Samsung 1080P Monitor and a 24" ASUS 1080P Gaming Monitor I keep as a backup monitor look great using both my 2017 Radeon Based MBP and my 2013 Nvidia Based MBP. If there was anything wrong with my monitors or cables or whatever, I would not get excellent/better video quality with both my MBPs using either of the 2 monitors. The only gear that was a problem was the 2018 Mini which I returned to BestBuy. The 2018 Mini worked as designed but could not match the video quality of a 2013 Nvidia MBP or a 2017 Radeon MBP driving the same external Samsung 1080P monitor. So what I said is true.

Some people don't have keen eyesight to notice differences in video quality that I encountered. Especially the font issue when using a 2018 Mini. Many people denied the font issue was possible in this thread including yourself until other people stepped up and provided their experiences seeing it. Then the links to other articles proving the font issue were posted by others to prove it.

I suggest people go with a MBP with Radeon running Sierra or High Sierra or an IMAC with Radeon running Sierra or High Sierra. I don't recommend the 2018 Mini.

1. It's misleading. They also won't look good on Radeon 560X driving non-retina displays... Or any other mac running Mojave, even your 2017 MBPs. That has nothing to do with the Mini...

2. It only discusses still shots from movies and games. On top of it, he did screenshots (not PHOTOGRAPHS). Your screenshots were identical aside font rendering. (His aren't)
You cannot possibly screenshot an output of a GPU - you screenshot the render, not what gets sent to the display. The discussion you linked is fundamentally flawed... What you linked is a different issue altogether. If screenshots were different that means they were decoded differently.

3. Yes there is, else there wouldn't be a difference in rendering on the screen.
You either had a malfunctioning Mini or you did a mistake in connecting it to the display.

What you are suggesting is that most of us are downright brain-dead and half-blind. You aren't a super-man with laser eye sight, and your monitor leaves a lot to be desired in picture quality to begin with compared to users here that drive much better displays successfully.

edit:
you are also suggesting we should buy 2y old tech for something that can be fixed via terminal command

 

[Tom80112]

1. It's misleading. They also won't look good on Radeon 560X driving non-retina displays... Or any other mac running Mojave, even your 2017 MBPs. That has nothing to do with the Mini...

2. It only discusses still shots from movies and games. On top of it, he did screenshots (not PHOTOGRAPHS). Your screenshots were identical aside font rendering. (His aren't)
You cannot possibly screenshot an output of a GPU - you screenshot the render, not what gets sent to the display. The discussion you linked is fundamentally flawed... What you linked is a different issue altogether. If screenshots were different that means they were decoded differently.

3. Yes there is, else there wouldn't be a difference in rendering on the screen.
You either had a malfunctioning Mini or you did a mistake in connecting it to the display.

What you are suggesting is that most of us are downright brain-dead and half-blind. You aren't a super-man with laser eye sight, and your monitor leaves a lot to be desired in picture quality to begin with compared to users here that drive much better displays successfully.

edit:
you are also suggesting we should buy 2y old tech for something that can be fixed via terminal command

 

[Spectrum]

Ploki, I think you are getting a little out of hand.

Fundamentally there is one take home message to be had here:

1. With macOS Mojave, compared to Sierra and High Sierra that preceded it, running non retina screens *may* lead a perceptible difference in font rendering, that you or may not like.

Thus users of any computer that can ONLY run Mojave may wish to be aware of this potential issue.

P.s. Tom: did you check your “Accessibility” setting in H/Sierra to be sure contrast isn’t set up a bit higher than default. (Like in my screen shot a few posts back.)

 

[Ploki]

Plonk, I think you are getting out of hand.

Fundamentally there is one take home message to be had here:

1. With macOS Mojave, compared to Sierra and High Sierra that preceded it, running non retina screens *may* lead a perceptible difference in font rendering, that you or may not like.

Thus users of any computer that can ONLY run Mojave may wish to be aware of this potential issue.

P.s. Tom: did you check your “Accessibility” setting in H/Sierra to be sure contrast isn’t set up a bit higher than default. (Like in my screen shot a few posts back.)

Did I say something wrong tho.

I just think that scaring off potential buyers is silly.

 

[Spectrum]

Did I say something wrong tho.

I just think that scaring off potential buyers is silly.

No one is scaring off buyers.

But Tom is right. I’ve used a 2011 Mac mini with the same pair of displays for 7 years upgrading all the way to High Sierra eventually...but there is something fundamentally differnent about the rendering of the 2018 mini.

Something more than just the fonts. Something to do with the contrast I think.

Unfortunately, I am unable to install Mojave on the 2011 mini, so it is impossible for me to test if it is Mojave or a 2011/2018 mini difference. But I am almost certain that there is a (subtle) difference.

 

[Ploki]

No one is scaring off buyers.

But Tom is right. I’ve used a 2011 Mac mini with the same pair of displays for 7 years upgrading all the way to High Sierra eventually...but there is something fundamentally differnent about the rendering of the 2018 mini.

Something more than just the fonts. Something to do with the contrast I think.

Unfortunately, I am unable to install Mojave on the 2011 mini, so it is impossible for me to test if it is Mojave or a 2011/2018 mini difference. But I am almost certain there there is a (subtle) difference.

Wait, I have a 13" and a Mini here. 15" is returned, so i can't test the radeon.
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I used the colorful high-sierra background. Tried:
2018 13" Iris Pro (mojave) via Satechi usb-c multiport adapter
2018 Mini UHD630 (mojave) via native hdmi
2012 15" retina GT650M (high sierra) via native hdmi
All running a 27" 1080p dell screen. (crap screen)

It looks identical...
Fonts look like crap on all 3. I won't be using 1080p screen anyway because i hate non-retina, but they do look like crap, regardless of GPU used.

I don't have a tripod/dslr here to take a photo of them looking identical unfortunately. I will probably bother myself to do it just to put this to rest finally, or now all 3 different GPUs are broken?

edit: by the way, when i get the ultrafine 4K; if something looks wrong or different compared to the 13", I'm gonna call apple . I don't suffer choice-supportive bias, I'm happy to eat my own garbage when proved wrong

 

[Tom80112]

1. My statement was not misleading but yours is. Anyone who buys a 2018 Mini is stuck with the font issue because it is the only MacOS that will run the 2018 Mini. No amount of rebuttal by you can counter this fact.

Someone will be waiting 1-2 years for the next version of MacOS to come out in hopes that Apple uses a different font or font rendering algorithm that looks as good as High Sierra and earlier MacOS versions. The simple command line procedure you suggest as the easy fix is not a fix. As others have stated (including me), this command can change the font smoothing algorithm but you never can match the displayed font quality of High Sierra and earlier MacOS's.

2. What the analysis states as findings match mine. And while I agree that screenshots are not the best way to present what is seen, you can see the differences in his pictures of Game and Video still frames. He even states in the analysis that the screenshots do not demonstrate how great the differences in directly-viewed images, games, or video quality are. He should have used a digital camera to capture the differences more accurately. I should have done the same. Regardless, a lack of digital pictures does not disqualify what he reported in the analysis. And I bet his gear was not faulty either.

3. There is nothing wrong with my setup as you ridiculously keep claiming. I've fleshed out quite well how there is nothing wrong with either of my MBPs, the HDMI cable, or 2 1080P monitors in my last post. The 2018 Mini was functioning as designed or I would not be able to generate screenshots of a legiabe Yahoo Webpage. I think you are missing the fact that discrete graphics like Radeon and Nvidia may have better software drivers and additional hardware circuits that allow these discrete cards/boards to apply image enhancement, detail enhancement, color enhancement, etc which gives them a better picture (both images and text) than the Intel IGP. People routinely write articles detailing the differences between how Radeon and Nvidia render text and images differently with each one doing a better job rendering different aspects of an image, text, game, or movie.

 

[Ploki]

1. Mine is not misleading. My statement is "Mojave renders fonts differently". It applies to all Macs that can potentially run Mojave. Also, Mini can also run Windows or Linux, so your statement is still both misleading and false.

2. I can see the difference in pictures of course. That doesn't automatically make your assumption correct. There's a difference =! the cause of the difference is X.
For example, the 15" running Mojave that I was using was rendering colours differently if I used a calibrated profile when the GPU switched. Namely, the colours got darker on 560X (and less vibrant) than on the 630HD. But this is a software issue, not a GPU issue. If i used a stock profile, the rendered screen remained identical.

It also rendered colors differently when "Adjust brightness automatically" was enabled (which is absolutely ridiculous) (And also only when using a calibrated profile)
So the laptop was working. And if i didn't calibrate it I would even think it was working properly. Obviously, it wasn't.

So I believe you that you actually saw a difference on your screen, because that can happen due to various reasons, and I also think Mojave has a few GUI kinks... But that's not Mini's fault.

But I do not believe it's due to UHD630 being an insufficient GPU, because that's simply not how modern GPUs work.

3. Just because it was functioning doesn't mean it was functioning properly. It might have been malfunctioning...
I'm not missing the fact that GPUs apply "image enhancment, details enhancement, color enhancement", as that is simply not a fact. What you want is accuracy. What you are claiming that what GPUs are doing is not accurate but enhanced. If dGPUs did that professionals would literally throw them away and use UHD630 instead because nobody wants an ENHANCED image, they want an accurate representation on what's going on.

Also, no matter what terms i search for, I cannot find the plethora of articles that details how Nvidia renders fonts better on macOS than radeon/intel. (or any other combination)

edit:
also regarding terminal line fix, I don't know, i tried it, it looks better, i guess.

I used 13" 2008 unibody for a while on el capitan and i think it looked like crap. After 6 years on retina, all non-retina screens look like crap to me. The difference between el-cap and mojave is just "a different shade of blurry". So i cannot objectively comment on that. (writing this on a 27" 1080p screen). Also, high sierra looks just as crappy.

 

[Tom80112]

1. Anyone who buys a 2018 Mini is stuck with the font issue (and
other rendering issues) because it is the only version of MacOS
that will run the 2018 Mini.

2. Spectrum supports my feeling that this is more than just a font issue.

3. None of my gear is defective.

You've made a lot of false statements including the deleted ones
where you called me a troll, said I was making this all up, and
that the font issue is impossible because you don't see it personally.

I wish you would just stop posting to this thread so I don't have
to keep coming on here to reply every time you try to deny the
things I reported by saying things like my monitor is defective
or I didn't plug the HDMI cable in correctly.

 

[Ploki]

I can (and gladly will) setup a tripod, connect all 3 macs I have access to (which i listed a little further up, with different GPUs and different outputs) to the 1080p screen I have and upload RAW photos of it... Granted, my DSLR only does 12bit RAW, but should suffice.

You can supply a source photo.

I will even boot them from the same external system to rule out anything else than hardware differences; an installation of 10.14.2 Mojave I use for testing out stuff I don't want on my main system.

If there's a difference I can record that shows Mini has worse rendering than the other two, I will send you a written apology by standard post

 

[F-Train]

All that one needs to know about this thread is that the person who started it refers in his very first post to "Apple fanboys" no less than three times. This thread is not worth reading, let alone being taken seriously.