Trying to access my home network over the internet

[macgrl]

Ok that makes sense and my macbook pro is which has the updater on it is on the home network that the tc is on. So how can I connect to the tc if the macbook pro is not at home. How can I use the tc as a stand alone server and connect to it remotely.

The instructions for how to do this for the mba give good instructions but I am not able to alter the connection sharings under the internet tab of the airport as it doesn't show up - I have posted a picture of it above.

Back to the drawing board me thinks. 🙂

Thank you for getting back to me.

 

[twoodcc]

Ok that makes sense and my macbook pro is which has the updater on it is on the home network that the tc is on. So how can I connect to the tc if the macbook pro is not at home. How can I use the tc as a stand alone server and connect to it remotely.

The instructions for how to do this for the mba give good instructions but I am not able to alter the connection sharings under the internet tab of the airport as it doesn't show up - I have posted a picture of it above.

Back to the drawing board me thinks. 🙂

Thank you for getting back to me.

the way i understand it, you have to have a computer on your network when your IP address changes, to update it on dyndns, or this won't work.

the TC really isn't a server, but more like just an external hard drive really.

I'll try to read thru the tutorial i gave you and see what i can find out

EDIT: Here is a direct link to the tutorial. it has a section for time capsule at the bottom. did you follow that already?

 

[macgrl]

Thank you, the tutorial says that you can use a tc with an external hard drive attached to it and that you don't then need to have another actual computer on the network as it would seem that you do the way I have done it so far. The problem I have with the tc and the external hard drive is that I cannot seem to change some of the settting that are required - mainly the settings in step 4. I am also unsure on how having as static ip address through dyndns would work? As it seemed to need that updater on a computer on the network in order to find out the dynamic ip address of the isp and change it to a fixed ip address so that you can access the server.

Maybe the free dynamic ip address service mentioned in step 4 would work instead? It is a bit confusing really. I know that my isp changes the public ip address everynow and then, indeed it will change if i unplug my router and plug it back in again.

I know that to access a remote server that I need a static ip address other wise each time the public ip changes I will be unable to access the router over the internet and therefore the server.

🙂🙂

Edited to say that I have been having a look around my router and found a note next to a setting that I can alter

"DDNS Service

If your broadband gateway's Internet IP address is assigned dynamically and you wish to host a Web site or other Internet service, you can sign up with DynDNS.org or TZO.com for Dynamic DNS (DDNS) service. Then select your DDNS provider from this list box, enter the required information, and click Apply. The gateway will send its Internet IP address to the provider so the provider can update your DNS entry.

For DynDNS.org service, you must enter a user name, password, and host name. For TZO.com service, you must fill in the correct e-mail address, password, and domain name.

Do you think that this means that I can change this and try to access my server the way I was before but without a computer on the network that has that dyndns utility installed on it? Could this be a similar thing but on the router instead?😀

 

[twoodcc]

"DDNS Service

If your broadband gateway's Internet IP address is assigned dynamically and you wish to host a Web site or other Internet service, you can sign up with DynDNS.org or TZO.com for Dynamic DNS (DDNS) service. Then select your DDNS provider from this list box, enter the required information, and click Apply. The gateway will send its Internet IP address to the provider so the provider can update your DNS entry.

For DynDNS.org service, you must enter a user name, password, and host name. For TZO.com service, you must fill in the correct e-mail address, password, and domain name.

Do you think that this means that I can change this and try to access my server the way I was before but without a computer on the network that has that dyndns utility installed on it? Could this be a similar thing but on the router instead?😀

try it! it's worth a shot. but that looks like it should work. and you should be set with that

 

[macgrl]

How cool is that that the router has something built in!!! I so hope it works as it would be so easy to use!!! 😀

I will get the chance to give it a proper test when I go to my friends house later. I will be off my network and testing it across the internet properly.

Do you know how I can have similar access using a windows pc? Is there a similar finder > go > connect to server and enter info??

I am a bit excited now that it might all be fixed up at last, hope it works or I will be mightily disappointed later lol🙂

 

[twoodcc]

How cool is that that the router has something built in!!! I so hope it works as it would be so easy to use!!! 😀

I will get the chance to give it a proper test when I go to my friends house later. I will be off my network and testing it across the internet properly.

Do you know how I can have similar access using a windows pc? Is there a similar finder > go > connect to server and enter info??

I am a bit excited now that it might all be fixed up at last, hope it works or I will be mightily disappointed later lol🙂

let us know if it works. that would be awesome if it does.

i am sure there is a way to do it on a pc, i just can't remember it off the top of my head.

 

[macgrl]

I will certainly let you know if it works, thank you so much for the time you have taken to help me, it really is very very much appreciated. I will be sooo happy if this works lol

I deleted the dynsns updater from my mac so that there is no mac on the server that has it attached (other than the settings I have changed on the router).

I then checked what my public ip address was via my router.

I then disconnected the internet connection on the router and reconnected and checked that the public ip address assigned by the isp had changed which it had. I was still able to access my server via finder > go > connect to server

This is making me think that those settings on the router for dyndns are in fact the same thing as you would have with



the updater on an actually computer on the same network as the server.





I still can't explain why I can't change some of the settings via airport

I actually think that this is so going to work. It's main test will be accessing it from another internet connection

Will let you know how that goes.

 

[macgrl]

yes, it works, I am able access the time capsule / server from over the internet outside of my house. 😀

However one slight problem, the hard drive that I have attached to the tc via the usb doesn't show up. This does show up when I connect to the wireless network at home. I think that I may have to alter some file sharing settings for it to allow me access to the hard drive?

It is a bit confusing as like I said I can access the external hard drive when I am connected to the wireless network at home so surely it should be the same when connected remotely

 

[twoodcc]

yes, it works, I am able access the time capsule / server from over the internet outside of my house. 😀

However one slight problem, the hard drive that I have attached to the tc via the usb doesn't show up. This does show up when I connect to the wireless network at home. I think that I may have to alter some file sharing settings for it to allow me access to the hard drive?

It is a bit confusing as like I said I can access the external hard drive when I am connected to the wireless network at home so surely it should be the same when connected remotely

i'm glad it works 🙂

about the external, yeah it might be a setting somewhere. i'm not sure. you'll have to play around with it

 

[macgrl]

I will have a play around with the settings for the external. I am wondering if it had anything to do with the USB external not having it's own power supply? That doesn't seem to matter when I connect via my home network.

 

[twoodcc]

I will have a play around with the settings for the external. I am wondering if it had anything to do with the USB external not having it's own power supply? That doesn't seem to matter when I connect via my home network.

i guess it's possible, but i'm not sure.

how exactly does it work on your home network?

 

[macgrl]

I started a thread on this in the peripherals section as I was having real problems. When I connect to tc at home the tc shows up as a shared device with the external hard drive attached to it

When i connect remotely the tc show up as a server and no external hard drive is shown. T

There must be a problem due to the server v. shared device difference.

I need the usb external to show up on the server some how🙂

I wonder is I should use a port other than 548 which is what I am using at the moment to remotely connect to my tc server

 

[twoodcc]

I started a thread on this in the peripherals section as I was having real problems. When I connect to tc at home the tc shows up as a shared device with the external hard drive attached to it

When i connect remotely the tc show up as a server and no external hard drive is shown. T

There must be a problem due to the server v. shared device difference.

I need the usb external to show up on the server some how🙂

I wonder is I should use a port other than 548 which is what I am using at the moment to remotely connect to my tc server

hmm. it's hard to say without more information. i can try to look more into it when i'm at home.

 

[macgrl]

Thank you. To correct myself when accessing the tc remotely it is seen as a shared device not a server in the finder window. It the "kind" column it is described as a sharepoint. Just want to be as accurate as possible.
Thanks for your help.

Also I have tried it with a powered usb external hard drive and this won't show up either.

 

[twoodcc]

Thank you. To correct myself when accessing the tc remotely it is seen as a shared device not a server in the finder window. It the "kind" column it is described as a sharepoint. Just want to be as accurate as possible.
Thanks for your help.

Also I have tried it with a powered usb external hard drive and this won't show up either.

okay. my first question is have you followed the steps in the tutorial for a usb hard drive attached to an airport extreme?

and if so, did you have any trouble with them?

here

 

[macgrl]

to be honest I didn't really follow those instructions to the letter as I was unable to change some of the settings it said ( see posts above with pictures)

I also thought that the guide was for those using tc or airport extreme as their router I'm not I have a separate router for my network with tc attached to it wirelessly.

 

[twoodcc]

to be honest I didn't really follow those instructions to the letter as I was unable to change some of the settings it said ( see posts above with pictures)

I also thought that the guide was for those using tc or airport extreme as their router I'm not I have a separate router for my network with tc attached to it wirelessly.

right. i just want to make sure that you have it set up right for file sharing.

which ports did you forward?

 

[macgrl]

Thanks for sticking with this and helping. I have forwarded to port 548

 

[twoodcc]

Thanks for sticking with this and helping. I have forwarded to port 548

your welcome 🙂

now, i think in that tutorial, it says something about port 548 as well as one that you choose. take another look at it and see if you did it right. just to check and make sure.

if you did, then this might be an issue with your other router.

 

[macgrl]

I checked and I have opened port 548 on my buffalo router with port forwarding to the ip address of the time capsule. This works when I remotely access as I can access the time capsule and files within it. Just not the usb drive attached to it. Maybe I need to do something to the USB drive to make it recognizable when accessing tc over the Internet 🙂

 

[twoodcc]

I checked and I have opened port 548 on my buffalo router with port forwarding to the ip address of the time capsule. This works when I remotely access as I can access the time capsule and files within it. Just not the usb drive attached to it. Maybe I need to do something to the USB drive to make it recognizable when accessing tc over the Internet 🙂

oh ok. did you see the part about choosing another port in the tutorial? it might not be the problem, but it's worth a shot

 

[macgrl]

How do I know what port to chose. So many and they are all for different things LOL

I was lying in bed this morning thinking about this problem when I thought of something that I don't understand.

Ok, I have an ip address through dyndns so that I get a fixed ip address all the time so as to access my router on the internet which has a dynamic ip address from my isp. To make it easier dyndns give an address with letters so lets say mine is mynetwork.network.net. (rather than 11.11.11.11) When I type this into firefox I get to my router homepage after I have typed in my user name and password.

So, to access my server (time capsule) I type in afp://mynetwork.network.net into finder > go > connect to server this connects me to my server.

On my router I have it set so that port 548 is open and forwards to the ip address of the timecapsule.

I also have the dyndns settings set on the router so that a fixed ip address is used.

The question I have is when I enter afp://mynetwork.network.net to connect to the server how does it know to look to port 548 in order to access my server? Port 548 is open and will accept incoming connections but how does the connection I make from the internet know to look to port 548? I have not made any settings anywhere to point it to port 548 unless of course it happens automatically / naturally so to speak. I checked my dyndns account and I haven't told it to look to port 548.

This might help, then again it might not! lol Just thought it best to mention all variables.🙂🙂

 

[twoodcc]

How do I know what port to chose. So many and they are all for different things LOL

I was lying in bed this morning thinking about this problem when I thought of something that I don't understand.

Ok, I have an ip address through dyndns so that I get a fixed ip address all the time so as to access my router on the internet which has a dynamic ip address from my isp. To make it easier dyndns give an address with letters so lets say mine is mynetwork.network.net. (rather than 11.11.11.11) When I type this into firefox I get to my router homepage after I have typed in my user name and password.

So, to access my server (time capsule) I type in afp://mynetwork.network.net into finder > go > connect to server this connects me to my server.

On my router I have it set so that port 548 is open and forwards to the ip address of the timecapsule.

I also have the dyndns settings set on the router so that a fixed ip address is used.

The question I have is when I enter afp://mynetwork.network.net to connect to the server how does it know to look to port 548 in order to access my server? Port 548 is open and will accept incoming connections but how does the connection I make from the internet know to look to port 548? I have not made any settings anywhere to point it to port 548 unless of course it happens automatically / naturally so to speak. I checked my dyndns account and I haven't told it to look to port 548.

This might help, then again it might not! lol Just thought it best to mention all variables.🙂🙂

let me try to clarify this a little bit:

You do not have a static ip address from dyndns. you have a domain name from them. when you go to any domain name, it's like going to their public ip address. so, if you knew your public ip address was 65.65.632.22, and you typed that in instead of your dyndns domain name, it was still work.

but no one can remember all those numbers, so that's why we have domain names.

but your public ip address is always changing. but since you put into your router your dyndns username and stuff, it will update dyndns with your new public ip address when it changes.

so for example: your dyndns domain name is macgrl.podzone.net and your public ip address is 55.55.455.12.

then macgrl.podzone.net = 55.55.455.12. either one would work. and when that number changes, since you have a dynamic ip address, your router will update macgrl.podzone.net to equal what the new ip address is.

does that make sense to you?

 

[macgrl]

It does thank you for clarifying that 🙂

 

[twoodcc]

It does thank you for clarifying that 🙂

you're welcome 😉

as for the port 548...when you type in afp:// in finder, the default port for that is 548, so it automatically looks for it there for file sharing.

but again, for your problem, i still say to look and be sure you have this setup properly.

Click Advanced (at the top of the dialog box), and then click Port Mapping.
Click the plus sign (+) to add a new port mapping.
In the Public UDP Port(s) and Public TCP Port(s) boxes, type in a 4-digit port number (e.g., 5678) that you choose. In the Private IP Address box, type the internal IP address of your Time Capsule or AEBS that you wrote down in step 2 (for example, 192.168.0.1). In the Private UDP Port(s) and Private TCP Port(s) boxes, type 548. Click Continue.