Two months to deliver a computer? Clowns

[aleksoctop]

To run the Adobe suite, some gaming, and dealing with a lot of photos, it would suffice. Not the best option, but it's not that much cheaper either, and has it's own issues.

My wife was shocked that I was pricing PC parts over the weekend..

Comparatively we're on the home-stretch to the home-stretch.
I wanna do a lot of video editing, motion graphics and heavy 3D work.
Don't give in now, PCs aren't worth the maintenance.

 

[MH01]

Comparatively we're on the home-stretch to the home-stretch.
I wanna do a lot of video editing, motion graphics and heavy 3D work.
Don't give in now, PCs aren't worth the maintenance.

A PC running windows 7 is very stable and requires about as much maintenance as a mac. The it just works on a mac myth, these days does not mean what it used to.

Though people should be able to work out which tool is best for them. If the new Mac Pro is that tool, might as well wait. It is a great machine to be honest .

 

[wildmac]

A PC running windows 7 is very stable and requires about as much maintenance as a mac. The it just works on a mac myth, these days does not mean what it used to.

Yeah, but it's still more of a software, and UI issue.

 

[aleksoctop]

A PC running windows 7 is very stable and requires about as much maintenance as a mac. The it just works on a mac myth, these days does not mean what it used to.

Though people should be able to work out which tool is best for them. If the new Mac Pro is that tool, might as well wait. It is a great machine to be honest .

I don't know MH01, I've got a mac with win7 running at home. I've had to clean my Win7 of bloatware, malware and whoknows what else, just from installing apps from legitimate sources. I've never had anything remotely like that happening to me on OsX. That's the 'just works' part. You won't get software on your computer that hijacks your system, or ransomware, and you won't have your system modified to have it say you're deleting explorer.exe (or equivalently important system file) every time you're deleting any file at all. That kinda stuff is just possible in Windows. That open-ness is as much an advantage as it's a curse for the Windows platform.

 

[goMac]

That's the company's problem, not ours. As paying consumers we were given expectations. We have every right to be pissed. Apple doesn't even come close to making good on their promises. An extra half month is not a negligible amount of time, not in the businesses that require the computing power that Mac Pro delivers.

I'll admit that if you have a ship date of February and you haven't received your machine yet, that's a problem.

The idea that because this machine was announced in June it should have been in mass production far earlier is just crazy. As others have mentioned, the parts to create the machine weren't even in consumer production (like say, the processor), but hey, that's Apple's fault for not being on the ball, even though at that point no ship date had been announced.

There is a difference between having something promised and not having it met, and making up your own idea of what is reasonable that has no basis in reality or actual promises, and then complaining loudly about it.

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LOL. You act as if the two companies never communicate with one another. The cognitive dissonance is strong it this one. Apple has made a couple hundred promises it can't keep. Now you see shipment dates slipping, or in some cases not even updating and showing the prior month as still being the shipping window. Sure, blame Intel for forcing Apple's release date. That makes sense.

I'm sure they were in close communication. Which is why it's totally Apple's fault they were talking ship dates in June when the Mac Pro was announced?

Oh wait, they weren't? Well phoo. Well they shouldn't have said the Mac Pro was in mass production when it wasn't. What's that? They mentioned they hadn't even spun up the new factory at all because it was a new US factory?

Well I'm just going to be mad at them for not doing all the things I assumed they were doing.

 

[aleksoctop]

There is a difference between having something promised and not having it met, and making up your own idea of what is reasonable that has no basis in reality or actual promises, and then complaining loudly about it.

So you'd say that extending the shipping time by a week by demoting the shipping from overnight to standard is what, reasonable?
I got over the 5-7 day thing, but I am not just as easily gonna get over it turning into just casually doubling that time.
To me, that's a break of an actual promise. So excuse me if I'm complaining about it here, sir goMac, I'm just looking to see how many others were given the same 'reasonable' treatment.

 

[wildmac]

So you'd say that extending the shipping time by a week by demoting the shipping from overnight to standard is what, reasonable?
I got over the 5-7 day thing, but I am not just as easily gonna get over it turning into just casually doubling that time.
To me, that's a break of an actual promise. So excuse me if I'm complaining about it here, sir goMac, I'm just looking to see how many others were given the same 'reasonable' treatment.

Seems like all of us that got bumped from February got hosed with the shipping as well.

 

[aleksoctop]

Seems like all of us that got bumped from February got hosed with the shipping as well.

I understand that changing the order in any way pushes it to the back of the line, so to speak. By this logic I can't possibly understand how it is that we could've been upgraded before, and also wonder - if that happened if we didn't get pushed back to the end of the line as a 'courtesy'.

 

[wildmac]

I understand that changing the order in any way pushes it to the back of the line, so to speak. By this logic I can't possibly understand how it is that we could've been upgraded before, and also wonder - if that happened if we didn't get pushed back to the end of the line as a 'courtesy'.

They know they have us. All of the previous reports of free trackpads and upgraded shipping and all that nonsense are gone.

 

[aleksoctop]

They know they have us. All of the previous reports of free trackpads and upgraded shipping and all that nonsense are gone.

Don't paranoia out man, it's around, just in the "I just ordered..." thread on top.

 

[now i see it]

Made in the good ole USA...

 

[aleksoctop]

The torture is almost over!
The estimate looks to have been way generous.

 

[Thunderbird]

The problem is that when these are being loaded onto trucks, they are being mistaken for trash cans and taken to the dump instead.

It takes a while to retrieve them from the landfill site and re-routed to the customer.

 

[Derpage]

The problem is that when these are being loaded onto trucks, they are being mistaken for trash cans and taken to the dump instead.

It takes a while to retrieve them from the landfill site and re-routed to the customer.

What a cynical comment! Everybody knows it's hard to walk around an office or factory in clown shoes. Give them time to adjust!

 

[ndrs]

The torture is almost over!
The estimate looks to have been way generous.

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When did you place your order? I placed mine back in january (Employee Purchasing Program through my job), and was told mid march would be the delivery. Seems highly unlikely now reading threads about people's orders being pushed all over the place...

 

[snouter]

It makes Tim Cook's (aka Suply Chain guru extraordinaire) comments on his regret over the iMac shipping debacle a little hollow.

There are a lot of things in play here - a new US factory, maybe too small of a factory, an overly elaborate production process (crazy case, innards, heat sinks, etc, custom motherboard, video cards, etc), a pent up and maybe higher demand than was expected (ie the next model won't suffer from this pent up demand, I know I have been on the fence for several years).

The computer is stunning though.

Only real problem is... computer tech moves pretty fast. You don't mind waiting on a Ferrari, but you do mind waiting on computer tech. The nMP was announced at the start of the Ivy Bridge era and with 7950 era video and will ship maybe too close to the Haswell and next gen video card era. This is a problem because I bet nMP v2 will start with a Haswell 6c as its base. Tech moves fast, yes, but you can't ship a gen behind, that does not sit well.

I am hesitant to call them clowns, but a strong case could be made that they clowned it.

 

[snouter]

I've been rocking my 4930k since October. Strong CPU.

There is no real excuse for it being March and you can't see a nMP in an Apple Store and there are not even stock 4c and 6c available in most channels.

As a "pro user" it's very hard to make plans around Apple's secrecy. You know, the customer matters somewhat, still.

I bought my 6c at MicroCenter on a whim. Have not noticed another in stock since I bought it and they only had the one.

B&H periodically has them. Right now they have a stock 6c and a 4c with 16GB and D500. They won't last.

 

[jetjaguar]

I've been rocking my 4930k since October. Strong CPU.

There is no real excuse for it being March and you can't see a nMP in an Apple Store and there are not even stock 4c and 6c available in most channels.

As a "pro user" it's very hard to make plans around Apple's secrecy. You know, the customer matters somewhat, still.

I bought my 6c at MicroCenter on a whim. Have not noticed another in stock since I bought it and they only had the one.

B&H periodically has them. Right now they have a stock 6c and a 4c with 16GB and D500. They won't last.

I'm tempted to purchase one but 256gb is so small

 

[snouter]

I'm tempted to purchase one but 256gb is so small

I bought one hoping to be able to upgrade it sometime this summer?

256GB is pretty small as a base in this pro level machine. An empty connector for a 2nd internal SSD would have been nice, even if just SATA 6. I feel the 1 year warranty is a little slim as well. This is the first time I have ever bought Apple Care. $170 at B&H.

I still have much love for Apple, but some of this stuff is starting to add up.

 

[jetjaguar]

I bought one hoping to be able to upgrade it sometime this summer?

256GB is pretty small as a base in this pro level machine. An empty connector for a 2nd internal SSD would have been nice, even if just SATA 6. I feel the 1 year warranty is a little slim as well. This is the first time I have ever bought Apple Care. $170 at B&H.

I still have much love for Apple, but some of this stuff is starting to add up.

Yea I'm really tempted. Not sure if i should go with the quad with d500s or the hex .. was planning on swapping cpus to an 8 core or something down the road. Im hesitant to not get d700s though .. so confused

 

[Reno Richter]

Yea I'm really tempted. Not sure if i should go with the quad with d500s or the hex .. was planning on swapping cpus to an 8 core or something down the road. Im hesitant to not get d700s though .. so confused

I took the attitude that I am not getting an upgrade for at least 3 to 4 years. So I over bought as far as my budget would allow and then stretched it a wee bit extra, and went with the D700's. and 1TB SSD (ram from OWC at 64). I do use C4D which will benefit from the graphic cards while rendering and use Lux render too. I assumed other software will catch up over time. The USB3.0 with what ever the protocol is called that adds to speed and the TB2, make the whole package as far as I am concerned.

Each of us has our own or different work flows and needs. Just analyze how long you kept what you currently have vs when you would realistically consider another one, what you can afford and which options are going to benefit you the most.

 

[wildmac]

Mine arrived today. Yeah!

Interestingly, I called and got the 5-7 day info over the weekend, but the order didn't display that.
Tuesday it went to processing, then later in the day preparing for shipment. And they did send it overnight Air.

But.. of course... they shipped it via UPS.

Signature required? No problem for UPS (OOPS). They knocked on the door, and left the package. The guy was down the stairs and out the gate before my wife could get to the door.

 

[now i see it]

Mine arrived today. Yeah!

Interestingly, I called and got the 5-7 day info over the weekend, but the order didn't display that.
Tuesday it went to processing, then later in the day preparing for shipment. And they did send it overnight Air.

But.. of course... they shipped it via UPS.

Signature required? No problem for UPS (OOPS). They knocked on the door, and left the package. The guy was down the stairs and out the gate before my wife could get to the door.

For Crikey's sake lads, all of us, a purchase of this magnitude should be shipped to a UPS or Fedex shipping center.. it only costs a couple bucks to have them receive it for you, is secure, and they will call you when it arrives. Having UPS/Fedex leave the $$ package at our doors is an invitation to...icky things

 

[wildmac]

For Crikey's sake lads, all of us, a purchase of this magnitude should be shipped to a UPS or Fedex shipping center.. it only costs a couple bucks to have them receive it for you, is secure, and they will call you when it arrives. Having UPS/Fedex leave the $$ package at our doors is an invitation to...icky things

It was marked as signature required. Obviously that's not an issue for the OOOPS driver.

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Should have had it sent to the Apple store for pickup.

 

[Frong]

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Only real problem is... computer tech moves pretty fast. You don't mind waiting on a Ferrari, but you do mind waiting on computer tech...

Still using a 2006 Mac Pro model, it's only in 2013 I really noticed games too much at the limit, I had upgraded the GPU, nothing else, just more drives plus the original internal that died.

I recently could update the OS to Maverick thanks to some some nice users doing tutorials, and hack of the EFI 32.

What I mean is it's really not the point for me about the delivery delay, if a computer is out of date after 3 months better not buy it at all but very cheap.

The delivery is shorter now depending of the model. But the model I'd like is still 2/3 weeks. That duration broke my impulse buy, just need think I'll get it in 3 weeks break it if the impulse started. Now it's many months after the initial release and 2/3 weeks isn't scandalous but a weird practice.

Now Mavericks is running on my old Mac Pro I think i'll just skip this nmpro and will wait see if there's a next version. With 1 week delivery delay I would already had a nmpro, but I won't and they are clowns.