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So, assuming a 21mp 5d Mk 2, you shoot 2133 shots in 15 minutes? It must cost you a fortune in new shutter mechanisms.

Lastly, for photographic needs? To show off your portfolio. Yes, beautiful screen, so little room. 64 GIGS?!?!? I can fill that in 15 minutes of photo shoot. LOL

They call this sarcasm and not to be taken literally. Gotta love the derailment of a topic.
 
and the battery life (although pretty good), I don't think is built to make it last several movies.

Why do you say that? The iPad battery is rated to last 10 hours of video playback. That's five 2-hour movies. Granted, I haven't actually tried watching five movies in a row on my iPad...

They call this sarcasm and not to be taken literally. Gotta love the derailment of a topic.

No, that's hyperbole. Sarcasm is saying the opposite of what you mean for ironic effect.

/english lesson
 
Book Reader (no, the iPhone is terrible for that)
Portable Digital Sketchbook (no, the iPhone isn't so good for that)
Magazine Reader (no, the iPhone sucks for that)
HTML editing (no, would hate the iPhone for that)
Taking notes in meetings (now the iPhone would just look stupid for that)
Movies - and it's NOT a pain to convert them (no, teeny tiny movies on iPhone are not a good way to watch)
Photos - Awesome digital portfolio - and 2000 Photos on my iPad takes up less than 10 gigs. (iPhone is okay, but iPad = BETTER!)
Photos - Editing - works nice and is fun (iPhone, not so much, except maybe Hipstamatic).
Web Browsing (sure, iPhone can do it if necessary, but it's not all that fun)
Email (okay, I'll give this one to the iPhone too).
Music (now yes, the iPhone is better for that)


It is NOT just a big iPhone. LOL!

LOL, I guess you didn't realize you proved my point. It's all about larger screen size. Hence, a BIG IPHONE
 
Why do you say that? The iPad battery is rated to last 10 hours of video playback. That's five 2-hour movies. Granted, I haven't actually tried watching five movies in a row on my iPad...



No, that's hyperbole. Sarcasm is saying the opposite of what you mean for ironic effect.

/english lesson

Actually you're right, I used it to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally.
 
Actually you're right, I used it to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally.

No, you just didnt think. 2133 photos at very high resolution is more than enough to take to any client. At the iPad's native resolution using Jpegs you could fit in excess of 100,000 photos. Yet you dismiss it as a device for showing photos because of its lack of storage. :rolleyes:
 
good reader
wonderful casual browsing device
fantastic in-car entertainment for kids
great for in-car movies if you have a headphone splitter

mediocre at word processing
lousy netbook or laptop replacement
power users beware

sadly it is exactly what Apple probably designed it to be, an in-between device that would not cannibalize the touch or macbook sales.

in my view could have and should have been much more
 
I read your post again, and highlighted the parts where you talked about the shortcomings of iPad, and concluded that it is nothing more than a iPhone with a bigger screen. The positive unique aspects about iPad were not brought up, such as:
- you can present a powerpoint or keynote talk
- read a 200 pg thesis in pdf format and annotate with notes and highlights
- remote access to your desktop with a screen size that is not ridiculous

But back to my main point, it's for book readers, internet surfers and emailers.

I know, some are going to say, it keeps track of my calendar or watch movies or use it for "photographic" needs.

For one the calendar is not robust enough, yes you can sync but realistically, PocketInformant is what I am waiting for...

Secondly, movies? The hassle of converting and getting it into the iPad is a pain, if you download it, the time it takes to download and the battery life (although pretty good), I don't think is built to make it last several movies. I may be expecting too much but yeah, it is what it is.

Lastly, for photographic needs? To show off your portfolio. Yes, beautiful screen, so little room. 64 GIGS?!?!? I can fill that in 15 minutes of photo shoot. LOL
 
I read your post again, and highlighted the parts where you talked about the shortcomings of iPad, and concluded that it is nothing more than a iPhone with a bigger screen. The positive unique aspects about iPad were not brought up, such as:
- you can present a powerpoint or keynote talk
- read a 200 pg thesis in pdf format and annotate with notes and highlights
- remote access to your desktop with a screen size that is not ridiculous

-you can present a powerpoint or keynote talk (in other words, larger screen?)
- read a 200 pg thesis in pdf format and annotate with notes and highlights (this can be done on the iPhone but more convenient on an iPad with a larger screen)
- remote access to your desktop with a screen size that is not ridiculous (once again, more convenient on a larger screen).

Every device has shortcomings, you expect me to not name a few.
 
-you can present a powerpoint or keynote talk (in other words, larger screen?)
- read a 200 pg thesis in pdf format and annotate with notes and highlights (this can be done on the iPhone but more convenient on an iPad with a larger screen)
- remote access to your desktop with a screen size that is not ridiculous (once again, more convenient on a larger screen).

Every device has shortcomings, you expect me to not name a few.

Missing the bigger picture (that wasn't a screen-size joke). The keynote comment wasn't just about the larger screen. You can actually create a keynote using Apple's Keynote App and then connect the iPad directly to a projector and display the presentation to a large audience. From there, you can manipulate the Keynote using the iPad. Does that mean simply moving from screen to screen? No. It means being able to hold down your finger to activate a virtual laser pointer, and point the red dot anywhere you want. It means being able to bring up a palette of colours and actually draw LIVE onto your presentation as it plays, in order to illustrate important points. He means you can actually create and perform a professional presentation on a huge LCD screen or with a projector just by working with an iPad. Can you do as good a job with the iPhone? Best I've seen is simply using the iPhone as a remote control for a Keynote playing on a computer. The iPad creates the content, connects directly to large display devices, and allows live manipulation of the keynote.
 
With the larger screen, it gives you more room to "play with" and the point I made is that it's not redefining anything new that the iPhone already does.

I'd argue that it doesn't necessarily need to do anything new. It's just better. If you honestly don't feel that way by now, you probably won't.

I've been using mine for both fun and work, and wouldn't want to give it up.
 
Missing the bigger picture (that wasn't a screen-size joke). The keynote comment wasn't just about the larger screen. You can actually create a keynote using Apple's Keynote App and then connect the iPad directly to a projector and display the presentation to a large audience. From there, you can manipulate the Keynote using the iPad. Does that mean simply moving from screen to screen? No. It means being able to hold down your finger to activate a virtual laser pointer, and point the red dot anywhere you want. It means being able to bring up a palette of colours and actually draw LIVE onto your presentation as it plays, in order to illustrate important points. He means you can actually create and perform a professional presentation on a huge LCD screen or with a projector just by working with an iPad. Can you do as good a job with the iPhone? Best I've seen is simply using the iPhone as a remote control for a Keynote playing on a computer. The iPad creates the content, connects directly to large display devices, and allows live manipulation of the keynote.

and you can do all this because you have Bigger _ _ _ _ _ _? Wait for it wait for it?

I would expect that with a larger screen, it would do "other" things. Going smaller has it's disadvantages but one can argue that smaller allows you to walk around a keynote presentation while remote controlling the keynote in your pockets.

So I state again, it's a Bigger iphone.

Everyone so far hasn't shown anything that makes this device different without saying anything about the screen size. I'll give you this, this keynote argument is probably the closest anyone can come up with without using "screen size" in the picture.

I guess you can say, depending on the APP, it would allow you to have more options than what you get on an iPhone.
 
Every device has shortcomings, you expect me to not name a few.

So basically, the thread title and content of your opening post were intentionally misleading, since it appears that you don't care one iota about "understanding the iPad" or "what everyone uses their iPad for". Instead, it appears that your intentions were to create a thread detailing why you believe the iPad is nothing more than an iPhone with a bigger screen (groundbreaking opinion, no one else has come up with that one yet) and to argue with people who attempt to point out the shortcomings of your myopic view of the device.

Well done. :rolleyes:
 
I'd argue that it doesn't necessarily need to do anything new. It's just better. If you honestly don't feel that way by now, you probably won't.

I've been using mine for both fun and work, and wouldn't want to give it up.

Thank you, probably the most respected response. The point in this post is that at the end of the day, the larger the screen the better, hence the arguments that everyone is making.

At the end of the day, it's a BIG iphone minus the phone. As someone pointed out in a previous post, certain apps will have more features than it's iPhone counterpart in some instances but that is a workable argument. ;)
 
Every device has shortcomings, you expect me to not name a few.

No. The problem is you chose to only look at the shortcomings, as I said in my post above.

By the way, I think most of us agree that iPad is an iPhone with a large screen. But it is this very larger screen that makes the iPad unique and BETTER than the iPhone.

Also, keynote app is not available on the iPhone, so you cannot give a presentation, and definitely not MAKE a presentation on the iPhone.
 
Everyone so far hasn't shown anything that makes this device different without saying anything about the screen size. I'll give you this, this keynote argument is probably the closest anyone can come up with without using "screen size" in the picture.

I guess you can say, depending on the APP, it would allow you to have more options than what you get on an iPhone.

Everything is "depending on the app" on any device.

It's myopically foolish to even mildly dismiss the impact of the larger screen. The screen size alone lifts the potential and the reality well beyond what can be done comfortably on the iPhone. Anything past that is an added bonus.
 
Thank you, probably the most respected response. The point in this post is that at the end of the day, the larger the screen the better, hence the arguments that everyone is making.

At the end of the day, it's a BIG iphone minus the phone. As someone pointed out in a previous post, certain apps will have more features than it's iPhone counterpart in some instances but that is a workable argument. ;)

Why isn't it a workable argument? If the apps are better, and therefore the user experience is better and you can do more with the device, doesn't that make the device better? Or are you talking about another argument.

It's a big iPod Touch. The iPod Touch was a small tablet computer. The iPad is a bigger, faster tablet computer. The extra power and screen real estate allows the creation of apps that are orders of magnitudes better than what can be done on the iPhone. If it's another tablet computer from Apple, this time with a faster processor, a much larger screen, and a more functional OS, it this not a good thing?
 
Topic starter seems awfully intent on ruffling some feathers. :(

Nobody can convince you when you don't want to be convinced. For sitting on my sofa or balcony and reading emails and news, the iPad can't be beat. I rarely ever used safari on my iPhone because of how tiny it was. The size on the iPad is perfect. You keep saying "it's just a big iPhone" like it's a bad thing. ;>
 
So basically, the thread title and content of your opening post were intentionally misleading, since it appears that you don't care one iota about "understanding the iPad" or "what everyone uses their iPad for". Instead, it appears that your intentions were to create a thread detailing why you believe the iPad is nothing more than an iPhone with a bigger screen (groundbreaking opinion, no one else has come up with that one yet) and to argue with people who attempt to point out the shortcomings of your myopic view of the device.

Well done. :rolleyes:

My intentions were very clear in the beginning till someone started pointing out how the iPad is not just a BIG iPhone which is a statement I'm making based on (in my opinion) what it can do. It must've been groundbreaking since everyone has a strong opinion that it isn't about a larger screen.

So to you, I argue at people defending my point. I look at it as a healthy discussion. As stated in a previous post, only one person was willing to admit that it is better because of the larger screen size. Yet everyone wants to stick to their guns that it's not about screen size.

So back to my initial point on this post, I wonder what people used it for that you can't do on an iPhone.

And yes, I know, larger is better.
 
So I state again, it's a Bigger iphone.

Everyone so far hasn't shown anything that makes this device different without saying anything about the screen size. I'll give you this, this keynote argument is probably the closest anyone can come up with without using "screen size" in the picture.

I guess you can say, depending on the APP, it would allow you to have more options than what you get on an iPhone.

If your point is that it's not revolutionary, I give you that. Jobs was using hyperbole when he said it is, just as you did with the number of pictures you can take in 15 minutes. But bigger screen does make a lot of things more convenient and easier to use. You can see lots more information at once, can put more buttons and controls on the screen, can see more details on photos and drawings, etc, etc. And that is what the iPad is, and that's how people use it -- it's an iPhone with a bigger screen. Nothing wrong with that, just ignore Jobs and his marketing hyperbole. :D

So back to my initial point on this post, I wonder what people used it for that you can't do on an iPhone.

Can't think of anything, really. But most of the things, I prefer to do on the larger screen. In fact, I haven't used my Touch once since I got my iPad. I admit I haven't read every single post in this thread closely, but I for one don't mind admitting the iPad isn't anything more than an iPhone/Touch with a bigger screen -- but to me the bigger screen makes all the difference.
 
Yet everyone wants to stick to their guns that it's not about screen size.

What thread have you been reading? The biggest improvement is the extra screen real estate and I've seen countless people saying that in this thread. It's just not the only improvement. We now have an OS that allows us to do more, like sending files to specific apps for example. We have a processor that makes the interface fly, when the iPhone can get clunky at times. Yes, people are arguing that there is more to the iPad than just a bigger screen, but I wouldn't say anyone is saying it's not about screen size. The biggest improvement is having all that extra space. Or more accurately, the biggest improvement is the better apps that we get from having a bigger screen.

What sold me was using it and realising how smooth the experience was, and how fast everything was. Nothing to do with screen size.
 
And it has more storage and

...better battery life and

...that bigger screen is also higher resolution and

...its also IPS

True. It can run more resource intensive, powerful apps and do so for a longer time. And I'm sure nutsnbolts will somehow link that to the screen as well. :rolleyes:
 
Topic starter seems awfully intent on ruffling some feathers. :(

Nobody can convince you when you don't want to be convinced. For sitting on my sofa or balcony and reading emails and news, the iPad can't be beat. I rarely ever used safari on my iPhone because of how tiny it was. The size on the iPad is perfect. You keep saying "it's just a big iPhone" like it's a bad thing. ;>

Ironically, as I stated, it is just a big iPhone and I never stated it as a bad thing.

As someone stated, keep it simple. It's faster. Yes, it is.

Nevermind what you can do with it, sitting in a balcony, on the sofa. If the iPhone was made out of clay that I can stretch to make bigger. What was it before? an iPhone. Ok, perhaps Apple added faster processor.

That's all I stated and tried pointing out the limitations of the iPhone which transcribed to the limitations of the iPad to some extent. Why because at the end of the day, the iPad is just a larger iPhone (once again not in a bad way).
 
True. It can run more resource intensive, powerful apps and do so for a longer time. And I'm sure nutsnbolts will somehow link that to the screen as well. :rolleyes:

LOL, actually I have a way to link that one. To have those is to support the larger screen size. Larger screen, requires larger requirements.
 
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