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Tinmania

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All of the new features will be matched by the iPhone 5S, the likes of faster processor and 13-MP camera. Android still lags and not as smooth to operate. Not to mention a lot of malware viruses as well.

Polly wanna cracker?



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torana355

macrumors 68040
Dec 8, 2009
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You mean every Android device I've own is defective?

It lags just scrolling through the app list on my Note 2. Looks like 14 fps jerky movement.

The Galaxy Note 2 is my 3rd Samsung Android device I've own. I previously own a Galaxy Tab 7 running froyo, and then upgraded to gingerbread. It was slow, buggy, laggy, and the screen froze every hour and refuses to recognize any of my screen interactions. Maybe my old Galaxy Tab 7 was defective, but I'm pretty sure my Note 2 isn't defective.

How can you say you never have any lag then say "past a few frame skips here and there." I'm pretty sure if you notice frame skips, it's lagging.

That's like I never had my windows machine crashed past a few BSOD here and there.

The only reason the Samsung phones would lag at all is due to the crappy Touchwiz skin that Samsung ruin Android with (That being said i have used a Note 2 plenty and there is no lag on it so i question if you even own one) Install a AOSP based rom on the Note 2 and it will be smooth as butter. For example my Nexus 4 with the Rasbeanjelly rom makes an iphone 5 look laggy in comparison, its that smooth and fast.
 

skratch77

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Mar 20, 2013
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Youve only just got out of the time-out and youve already started i see.... :rolleyes:


Re: Exynos 5 Big.little, The fact that there is 4 fast cores and 4 slow cores does not equate to 8 cores of power. The fastest it will run is 4 cores at 1.6ghz, which clearly won't be as fast as 4 cores at 1.9ghz. Quadrant and AnTuTu have shown this so far.

We can only assume then that geekbench scores will likewise be slower on the Exynos handset.

This is so wrong I don't know where to begin,first clock for clock the a15 purebread cores will smoke the hell out of olders a9 cores and will destroy the krait cores in the snapdragon soc.

If you read online there are benchmarks showing the exynos beating the krait 600,4k points more in antutu is no joke and it was clocked 100mhz slower then the 1.9ghz snapdragon s4.It also scored 700 points higher in quadrant.

you have no idea about core arch and clock for clock a 1.2 ghz a15 is as fast as a 1.6-1.7 snapdragon core.

You need to look at cpu benchmarks and not gpu since both phones are using different gpus but the exynos 5 will blow the doors of the snapdragon 600 in the usa market s4

I just read a octo gs4 benched 27417 in Anutut benchmark and 12726 in Quadrant benchmark while clocked slower then the snapdragon s4 so care to explain how a slower clocked a15 core beat a krait core?

Im going to take a wild guess and put the exynos 5 geekbench right about 3400
 
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sentinelsx

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Feb 28, 2011
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You mean every Android device I've own is defective?

It lags just scrolling through the app list on my Note 2. Looks like 14 fps jerky movement.

The Galaxy Note 2 is my 3rd Samsung Android device I've own. I previously own a Galaxy Tab 7 running froyo, and then upgraded to gingerbread. It was slow, buggy, laggy, and the screen froze every hour and refuses to recognize any of my screen interactions. Maybe my old Galaxy Tab 7 was defective, but I'm pretty sure my Note 2 isn't defective.

How can you say you never have any lag then say "past a few frame skips here and there." I'm pretty sure if you notice frame skips, it's lagging.

That's like I never had my windows machine crashed past a few BSOD here and there.

You are either a masochist or simply an idiot.
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
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This is so wrong I don't know where to begin,first clock for clock the a15 purebread cores will smoke the hell out of olders a9 cores and will destroy the krait cores in the snapdragon soc.

If you read online there are benchmarks showing the exynos beating the krait 600,4k points more in antutu is no joke and it was clocked 100mhz slower then the 1.9ghz snapdragon s4.It also scored 700 points higher in quadrant.

you have no idea about core arch and clock for clock a 1.2 ghz a15 is as fast as a 1.6-1.7 snapdragon core.

You need to look at cpu benchmarks and not gpu since both phones are using different gpus but the exynos 5 will blow the doors of the snapdragon 600 in the usa market s4

I just read a octo gs4 benched 27417 in Anutut benchmark and 12726 in Quadrant benchmark while clocked slower then the snapdragon s4 so care to explain how a slower clocked a15 core beat a krait core?

Im going to take a wild guess and put the exynos 5 geekbench right about 3400

BUT!!

Your quoting a post before benchmarks came out for the exynos based on preliminary benchmarks that have subsequently been proved to be inaccurate at the time. We all know it beats the Snapdragon version now. That's the benefit of hindsight....

But to say it 'smokes' the other version is an exaggeration ;) But yes certainly if you could get a choice the exynos version would be the one to get. :)
 

maxosx

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Dec 13, 2012
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Hi guys.

First of all, I was pretty much insulted when they showed up the S4's plastic construction. While every other OEM is making nicely builded flagships, Samsung shows.... this.

It has a 1080p display. Fine, for now. It has the PenTile sub-pixel arrangement. Not fine at all. I still don't understand why they stopped the Super AMOLED Plus display at the Galaxy S II, it's a much better display than the regular Super AMOLED. It's like they stopped improving their displays and they only care to make it higher res. But a good display needs more than just higher res.

Then, hands-on videos were released and I watched a lot of them. I saw multiple lags (shouldn't happen on a 4xCortexA15+4xCortexA7 device). This is a freaking 8 cores device. 8 cores. IT LAGS. JUST... NO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtmQvZjobyM

This video also revealed the Sunspider benchmark result..... Less than 100ms better than the iPhone 5 (and equal to the iPad 4). I am waiting for other benchmarks results.

I noticed that for 95% of the show, they talked about gimmicky features instead of the real product. Honestly, who the hell will be using these features to make them really important?

Anyway, I was really let down by this device. By the way, before I forget, what a lame move to laugh at the iPhone 4S's design because it was like the iPhone 4. They just laugh at themselves.

Wow... Sorry to hear you're missing out on such a fast, fun, smartphone. Mines been a terrific experience.

But then again I'm not emotionally attached to certain things that have insulted you.
 

cuzo

macrumors 65816
Sep 23, 2012
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All of the new features will be matched by the iPhone 5S, the likes of faster processor and 13-MP camera. Android still lags and not as smooth to operate. Not to mention a lot of malware viruses as well.

No malware issues bro, don't overreact. If you download safe programs and not obvious crap here "download me for 1000 free songs" you'll be fine.

I did see a couple drive by download programs on android like "android protect" or something like that but obviously if you have common sense you're not gonna install that program.

Android is fine.
 

skratch77

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Mar 20, 2013
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BUT!!

Your quoting a post before benchmarks came out for the exynos based on preliminary benchmarks that have subsequently been proved to be inaccurate at the time. We all know it beats the Snapdragon version now. That's the benefit of hindsight....

But to say it 'smokes' the other version is an exaggeration ;) But yes certainly if you could get a choice the exynos version would be the one to get. :)

a15 is 40% faster clock for clock then a9 and krait is a hybrid a9/a15 design

To say that the krait cores are faster because they are clocked higher is not correct,a15 is still about 20% faster then krait 600 and will even be faster then krait 800


also just wait for the benchmarks to support the exynos chipset also as sometimes they are not really clocking the cores right with the multi threading and I think quadrant is capped at 60 fps but looking at the memory bandwidth alone show how powerful the exyons 5 is vs the krait 600 in the castrated gs4.

hands down any way you slice it the exynos is a faster and better soc!!! and I hope we can get them here in the states and not get ripped off getting em

The benchmarks I posted are new and are legit but everyone that knows about arm arch new the a15s purebreds would of killed the krait cores

snapdragons krait is not using the full a15 arch and has huge bottle necks compared to the exynos soc

krait wont get ddr 3 until the 800 cores come out and by then Samsung will have a faster clocked exynos on a smaller node

its almost like Samsung is putting out a gs4 and a gs4s at the same time as the exynos gs4 is like an s upgrade on the iphone
 
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