Same experience here, but with one older generation iPad compared to yours. It’s not a great battery at all.
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iPad Pro **Update: M4 iPad Pro fixed the problem** I was wrong .... iPad sucks ... worst Apple device by far.
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I can use BattSafe just fine to change the charging behavior and it looks like this is actually possible for iPhone 15 now without any tricks
If you aren't jailbroken, buy a smart power plug, and when you hit 80%, use Shortcuts to turn the power plug off.
As for the rest of your post, I'd second the recommendation for CoconutBattery comparisons of all three devices if you really care about "the facts"
I wouldn’t use these forums to gauge anything close to ‘hard facts’.
You seem to have covered pretty well what the iPad excels at, certainly over a phone , a little bit to the contrary of your original assessment. So what do you do on a Mac then? That seems to be what you missed, being as though you asked. Hard core data set analysis? Coding? Probably not on the MacBook Air that you’re touting. I’m confused. You have listed most ‘general computing’ activities already. Are you just pissed that iPadOS isn’t macOS?
I know your theory about OS updates destroying battery life and that if you never update your battery life never changes... and you know I disagree with it. And while nobody has any long-term scientific evidence, my experience is based on a large number of devices and is more typical of an iPad user (since the vast majority of people update their devices instead of leaving them on their original OS). And in my experience battery health does impact battery life but the impact cannot be perceived before a certain threshold. And it can take years to get to that threshold. Many years sometimes. And again usage patterns make all the difference. And you can significantly degrade a battery in a matter of months on the original OS is you do the wrong things (like leaving the device dead for months). And in my experience of dozens of iPads, upgrades can impact standby time more than anything (but not always), not so much screen on time. And sometime the impact can even be positive (something that you probably won't believe...)
I use my old 2015 MacBook Pro for copying some large files over to my iPhone and iPad, installing IPSW files when needed and backing them up when upgrading devices. At times I also use the MBP to update a few Wordpress sites, which works way better than on an iPad.
I probably use iPhone about 50% of the time, iPad - 45% and Mac - the remaining 5%.
Again, most of things I can do on an iPad, I can also do on an iPhone, except for a pencil-related work, which I do not really need.
If I could only have two devices of three (iPhone, iPad, Mac), it would be an iPhone and a MacBook, however.
So I am not “pissed” about anything, really, as it all works fine for me, just sharing my personal opinion on iPad’s hardware and software strength & weaknesses.
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I do not have any issues
Based on your noted experience, iPad does not meet your expectation. Hence, you did the right decision to move on from iPad. Keep calm 😊.
However, for others, iPad is a perfect device per their need and expectation. 😊
No devices are so perfect for everybody’s need. That is as expected 😊
You can't equate the battery of the Mac to the iPad Pro. That is apples to oranges.
The iPad is a fine device. It can't meet everyone's needs or expectations but, for those it does, it is a keeper.
The iPad is a fine device. It can't meet everyone's needs or expectations but, for those it does, it is a keeper.
To be fair... it is Apple's to Apple's...
And after this terrible joke, I'm leaving the thread, not before unwatching it.
I was wrong .... iPad sucks ... worst Apple device by far
Nice emotional click bate title ya got there, but we definitely agree....You are wrong!
My M1 iPad Pro 11 replaced my 2019 I9 MBP in Nov. 2021 for use in my real estate and property management business and totally streamlined my workflow, reduced steps I had to take, and made work a lot more fun. It is so much easier, convenient, and more intuitive to use the iPad for the work I do. In fact, I would go so far as to say, in my opinion the laptop is limiting and cumbersome compared to the iPad Pro for the type of work I do. I work with contracts, forms, docs, pdf's, take a huge amount of notes, sketch house dimensions, take pictures, communicate(messages, email, FaceTime, and phone calls), and do a bunch of scanning. Working with documents, pdf's, contracts, and forms is so much easier for me. Editing, marking up, and then sending to clients is all done within the app, and reduces the amount of steps it takes to communicate. The iPad also reduced the amount of hardware devices I needed, and condensed them all into one really portable device that actually makes my work more easy and convenient. I am 63 and have used Macs and PC's for going on 40 years now, and for some reason using an iPad and iPad OS is just something I get. I have really enjoyed using my iPad Pro as my main work device this past couple years, and it makes me feel good at my age, that I was able to pick the iPad up, and just run with it. IMO the iPad is the most dynamic, flexible, and versatile device Apple has ever made. Pretty cool to have something you love using for both mobile and desktop.
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Do you mean Maximum Capacity?
I have two indicators: Battery Condition and Maximum Capacity.
The laptop computers will run using the AC power and not bother with the battery at all. However, my M1 MacBook Air, which is slightly more than 1 year old, is at 93% of Maximum Capacity.
How many cycles do you have on the laptop computers? My cycle count is at 48. I haven't used it a tremendous amount on battery alone.
14" Macbook Pro M1Pro, purchased November 2021. Battery health is 93%. 161 cycles.
11" M1 iPad Pro, purchased March 2022. Battery health 97%. 216 cycles.
I have zero complaints with either of these. Sure the MBP could be a little better but its completely normal and working just as expected.
11" M1 iPad Pro, purchased March 2022. Battery health 97%. 216 cycles.
I have zero complaints with either of these. Sure the MBP could be a little better but its completely normal and working just as expected.
That's just superstition from one data point - your battery. Battery health is luck of the draw, and there's a whole bunch of people who think it's got anything to do with their charging habits. It doesn't.
For every person you find who babies their battery and it's at 99% after a year of daily use, I'll find you someone who just charged whenever and however they wanted and their battery is at 99% too.
OP is a troll! Virtually every hot forum post is a troll headline thats titled to attract heated comments.
My M1 max is at 85% health, so it basically destroys OPs point that Macbook's charging is somehow special.
My M1 max is at 85% health, so it basically destroys OPs point that Macbook's charging is somehow special.
It would be interesting to see, like I said, whether actual low battery health can affect an original version device. If it does, then you can definitely kill a device within months. It doesn’t happen with normal operating conditions, though.
I agree that sometimes it can improve, but from one iOS version to the next, never when compared to the original (which is what matters).
I am surprised about OP’s battery health, but it’s a rare occurrence. Battery health typically outlasts the lifespan of an original version, especially on iPads, when conditions are normal. Like you said, it typically takes years, which is why OP’s case is surprising.
Even assuming that your theory ("Battery health typically outlasts the lifespan of an original version") is correct, how many people never update the OS on their iPad from its original version? Seems to me more a niche case, a tiny minority of people, so not really relevant to the vast majority of people here.
Agreed, completely, yet I can’t help but notice this when people worry “well, my 10.5-inch iPad Pro’s battery life is very poor, so I upgraded. It’s okay though, the device is really old, battery health is, say, 68% on Coconut”. Battery life is only poor because you installed iPadOS 473 on a device that started on iOS 10, so of course it will be poor...
Yeah but your theory is that even if you upgrade once, you have lost this special resilience of the original OS version. So at that point I guess the deterioration, if any, is not worth giving up the new features, and for those who care about it, security updates.
I couldn't imagine taking this into consideration when evaluating updates. I don't believe it to be true, for that matter, based on multiple owned iPads and innumerable updates.
No, I have always said that the key part of my theory is “if updated far enough”. Some major iOS versions (typically the first one) are fine. If there’s a difference, it’s negligible. Specific amounts (which is why I don’t give any) of major iOS updates required varies. For some devices, the first one is abhorrent. For others, you can update it up to three times and they’re fine. Once you pass that threshold, though, it’s all downhill from there.
Funnily enough, I’m unsure about extreme degradation on some halfway updated devices. Take my 9.7-inch iPad Pro. Assume that at some point battery life really decreases. Say, 40% health, 30%, whatever, take whatever number you like. The question will always be there: ”Wait. Would it be better on iOS 9? If so, how much?” So, perhaps they’re mostly fine on a version, but if degraded far enough, they suffer, and they wouldn’t if they weren’t updated at all.
Regardless, the chances of an iPad being degraded to such a degree are rather low. Like I said, the battery typically outlasts the version obsolescence itself. You can degrade, say, a 9.7 or a 10.5-inch iPad Pro if you’re a heavy enough user (partly thanks to Apple’s long support lifespan: if you require updates, the longer they’re supported the longer you will use them), but from the other side, I’ll never be able to tell you for sure that it wouldn’t be like-new if the device were seven iOS versions behind.
I've had my m1 iPad Pro for 2 3/4 years now and yeah, battery sucks. Is battery service available for iPad?
that makes your theory rather vague however, and the issue I take with it is that it's based on a relatively limited amount of devices (and updates thereof). Again none of us has hard scientific numbers to prove anything, but my experience does not match this theory.
My 10.5 pro degraded heavily all of a sudden and within iPadOS 16 (where it still is). Battery health moved from over 80% to 50-60% in a matter of months and battery life was more than cut in half, without any special factors or changes in habits.
Similarly my 9.7 stayed on 13.4 (where it still is) for years, but then in a matter of months lost a lot of health and battery life for apparently no reason. So updates are not the culprit and this also show a non linear path in degradation (although it's always for devices used for several years, never within the first couple of years).