My Sidekick usually gets an OTA update at least once every quarter or so...I know that's not too often, but still. I'd be happy with a quarterly update from Apple (as long as they packed as much in as they could with each update
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Version 1.1 Update by end of July - Will have iChat and Copy-Paste feature
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My Sidekick usually gets an OTA update at least once every quarter or so...I know that's not too often, but still. I'd be happy with a quarterly update from Apple (as long as they packed as much in as they could with each update
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Unlikely Apple will put iChat on the iPhone, because you need to connect to EDGE if you are on the go (not standing in one place) and iChat needs access to the net, and you cant receve calls while your on the net through EDGE.
Why not, trolls often are recent registrations. I'm not saying you're a troll, I'd be very happy to be proved wrong. Sadly "bloke down the pub told me" sorts of rumors I take with a pinch of salt no matter where I'm hearing them from.
That's interesting. I've never heard that before (not that I've researched that much!). I'm not sure why the FCC would need to review that. The FCC is mostly concerned about things like RF transmission, effective radiated power and interference. Given that the FCC has already approved the iPhone, I'd be surprised if they needed to review software updates. I'm sure that AT&T would want to review any updates to assess the impact on their network as well as their customer service team. I'm just not sure about the FCC.
My 2 cents as a long time ham radio operator.
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why doesn't the phone send you an i chat when your getting a call with a link that shuts off i chat? this is an iheadache, just be patient.
The email checks every few minutes (or whatever you set it to) but people want ot keep their IM logged in, and you need to to keep updating the list of online users and to keep a conversation working etc.
And why is that? Everything else on the iPhone is a stripped down version of the real thing. Like email w/o multiple delete or deleted message folder delete, photo mail to one recipient only, etc. etc. etc.
There are a number of chat systems (and commensurate software packages) that function purely over SMS or use SMS as the plumbing to do tcpip connections on demand (to reduce the need to have always on EDGE).
I used one (OZ Mobile I think) that came bundled with my BlackJack on Yahoo! IM and it worked quite well.
I used one (OZ Mobile I think) that came bundled with my BlackJack on Yahoo! IM and it worked quite well.
You won't need the mirror if everyone using the video chat speaks in sign language, just hold it with your hand on the other side and sign away! Although it would make things difficult for the two handed signs and the signs that need to gesture towards or away from one's body.... okay maybe you'd have to fingerspell everything out, but it's possible!!!!
How do other AIM clients on phones work? Shouldn't be too much more of an issue with this sort of thing, on my old phones with AIM i could have the app not running and it would still notify me of a message.
Further, GSM and GPRS/EDGE *do* provide a facility to interrupt packet data.
Basically, when a device is communicating over GPRS/EDGE it cannot sample the paging channel that would indicate an incoming call or SMS (read: activity on the circuit switched side of the world). There is a provision for taking this paging message (circuit switched event), throttling the packet activity, sending the paging message, and resuming packet activity and allowing the handset to choose (either through user interaction or handset choice) how to proceed (answer call/receive text, et al).
Obviously this isn't just a handset dependent feature. This mode of operation requires infrastructure that may or may not be in place...but the short answer is: yes, you can receive calls/SMS during GPRS/EDGE sessions...if you choose to answer them you must interrupt the GPRS/EDGE session. But the nice thing here is that some GPRS/EDGE implementations can do this relatively seamlessly to the TCP/IP layer (although protocols living above the TCP/IP layer may eventually time out if the connections are held inactive for too long).
Basically, when a device is communicating over GPRS/EDGE it cannot sample the paging channel that would indicate an incoming call or SMS (read: activity on the circuit switched side of the world). There is a provision for taking this paging message (circuit switched event), throttling the packet activity, sending the paging message, and resuming packet activity and allowing the handset to choose (either through user interaction or handset choice) how to proceed (answer call/receive text, et al).
Obviously this isn't just a handset dependent feature. This mode of operation requires infrastructure that may or may not be in place...but the short answer is: yes, you can receive calls/SMS during GPRS/EDGE sessions...if you choose to answer them you must interrupt the GPRS/EDGE session. But the nice thing here is that some GPRS/EDGE implementations can do this relatively seamlessly to the TCP/IP layer (although protocols living above the TCP/IP layer may eventually time out if the connections are held inactive for too long).
I think Blackberry devices for example use this implementation where GPRS/EDGE is put on hold when a call comes in and then resume right after. That's why for example the very second (maybe even ms) you get off a call on a BB, any email that is waiting on the server is delivered immediately. On Windows Mobile phones for example, after a call ends it has to reconnect to EDGE which takes significantly longer.
From my experience it seems iPhone uses the WM type method.
Yea, seems stupid, when there are a few phones out there already with pivoting cameras to switch forward/backward or even in the middle... and where's the video capture app, Apple?!
I think the only logical way would be to turn the iphone around
Besides, it cant even CAPTURE video yet, let alone capture and SEND it out at a constant rate. I find it funny that video is even something people declare needs to be there on a mobile phone. Yeah its cool, and the phones that can do it now are pretty sweet, and im sure the iphone will do that eventually, but seriously, it doesnt seem like that would be a must for a PHONE. Anyway, i dont understand why when every other phone, including one of the most popular phones out there, including the sidekick, the iphone, the newest phone in all ways, doesnt have its own instant messanger application. It doesnt seem logical. Sure the SMS is set up to look like iChat, but why wouldnt they just have its own client that actually does ichat. It doesnt seem that this was AT&ts decision...I don't know, its weird, hope they add IM support not over the internet, those web apps use way too much battery, especially iphonejive, or whatever it is called...
Besides, it cant even CAPTURE video yet, let alone capture and SEND it out at a constant rate. I find it funny that video is even something people declare needs to be there on a mobile phone. Yeah its cool, and the phones that can do it now are pretty sweet, and im sure the iphone will do that eventually, but seriously, it doesnt seem like that would be a must for a PHONE. Anyway, i dont understand why when every other phone, including one of the most popular phones out there, including the sidekick, the iphone, the newest phone in all ways, doesnt have its own instant messanger application. It doesnt seem logical. Sure the SMS is set up to look like iChat, but why wouldnt they just have its own client that actually does ichat. It doesnt seem that this was AT&ts decision...I don't know, its weird, hope they add IM support not over the internet, those web apps use way too much battery, especially iphonejive, or whatever it is called...
You could transfer video when you sync your iPhone to a computer -- even that would be useful if I could not actually send email over the network... Plus I could play the video on the iPhone for others...
I think the only logical way would be to turn the iphone around
Besides, it cant even CAPTURE video yet, let alone capture and SEND it out at a constant rate. I find it funny that video is even something people declare needs to be there on a mobile phone. Yeah its cool, and the phones that can do it now are pretty sweet, and im sure the iphone will do that eventually, but seriously, it doesnt seem like that would be a must for a PHONE. Anyway, i dont understand why when every other phone, including one of the most popular phones out there, including the sidekick, the iphone, the newest phone in all ways, doesnt have its own instant messanger application. It doesnt seem logical. Sure the SMS is set up to look like iChat, but why wouldnt they just have its own client that actually does ichat. It doesnt seem that this was AT&ts decision...I don't know, its weird, hope they add IM support not over the internet, those web apps use way too much battery, especially iphonejive, or whatever it is called...
I tend to agree. Video chat over EDGE simply would not work, under ideal lab conditions, even, let alone on ATT's real life (read: highly suboptimal in all but the most lucky of areas) network (seriously, ATT's network is atrocious).
If you're close to a WiFi hotspot you are better served by pulling out your MacBook and chatting it up with a 1) higher res camera, 2) larger screen, 3) a battery designed to support these kind of uses.
Yeah, I know, it'd be cool on the iPhone but it doesn't seem like the current hardware and infrastructure of the iPhone lends itself to performing the way Jobs wants the iPhone to work.
If you're close to a WiFi hotspot you are better served by pulling out your MacBook and chatting it up with a 1) higher res camera, 2) larger screen, 3) a battery designed to support these kind of uses.
Yeah, I know, it'd be cool on the iPhone but it doesn't seem like the current hardware and infrastructure of the iPhone lends itself to performing the way Jobs wants the iPhone to work.
I think the only logical way would be to turn the iphone around
Besides, it cant even CAPTURE video yet, let alone capture and SEND it out at a constant rate. I find it funny that video is even something people declare needs to be there on a mobile phone. Yeah its cool, and the phones that can do it now are pretty sweet, and im sure the iphone will do that eventually, but seriously, it doesnt seem like that would be a must for a PHONE. Anyway, i dont understand why when every other phone, including one of the most popular phones out there, including the sidekick, the iphone, the newest phone in all ways, doesnt have its own instant messanger application. It doesnt seem logical. Sure the SMS is set up to look like iChat, but why wouldnt they just have its own client that actually does ichat. It doesnt seem that this was AT&ts decision...I don't know, its weird, hope they add IM support not over the internet, those web apps use way too much battery, especially iphonejive, or whatever it is called...